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Brother Rich and Sister Journey,
So now Adam, from one act of disobedience, BECAME A GOD HATER.
You are kidding right?Nothing you have said or showed, made us BORN SINNERS. Yet we are, because of the first SIN.
You call me blind in this, yet I see way past where you are looking. I understand why I was born in sin, you are still in the dark.
This one scripture should settle it, the sins of the father do not go to the son, until the son commits them. We are not BORN sinners because of something our fathers, (Which includes Adam) DID. We are BORN sinners because of blood.
God Bless
bro. MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 17 2012,09:56) Quote yes that is true ,but in the case of Adam there was no sons it was only Adam and Eve so they have to be fully responsible for their actions right and if they have kids now the kids pay for what their parents did before they came to be ; so where is the injustice of God
Ezek 18 does not apply to this .Brother Pierre,
That is strictly your opinion, unless you can produce scripture to that effect.
You are grabbing at straws that are not there.God Bless
bro. Marlin
m1that his the truth ;but you can challenge it ,with scriptures but you will make a non sense out of all scriptures ;because Paul say that by one man sin enter the world and by on sacrifice by one man it is solved ,
the fact is if you are not born and you father commit a crime that will take his live ,you his son will pay the price of growing up with out a father ,and you have done nothing and yet pay that price ,this is thinking in flesh;
it seems you do not believe the bible to be the word of God ,am I right
Brother Pierre,
Your scripture, does not solve your problem with Eze 18:20.
Of course sin came into the world by Adam. He was a son of God and chose to keep and love his wife OVER the Word of God. He was not deceived, he did what he did by choice. Eve was a byproduct of Adam and was deceived. If Adam would have rejected Eve, then Eve would have died and mankind would have had no need for a savior.
That changes nothing with eze 18:20, it applies to this day and you can rationalize it any way you want and it will still be true. Adam's sin of unbelief is NOT why you are BORN in sinful FLESH.
God Bless
bro. Marlinm1
Quote Adam's sin of unbelief is NOT why you are BORN in sinful FLESH. you do not want to see the truth of scriptures ONLY YOUR VIEWS SCRIPTURES ARE WRONG ,ONLY WHAT YOU CAN SEE AND INTERPRET OF BEING WORTH OF KEEPING AS IMPORTANT ENOUGH AND BE ACCEPTED BY YOU ,
one last time '; WE ARE BORN OF FATHER ADAM AFTER HE WAS CONDEMN TO DIE FOR HIS DEOBEDIENCE TO HIS CREATOR ,AND SO WE ARE BORN WITH THAT SAME CONDEMNATION ;THIS IS WHY WE DIE;AND CHRIST CAME TO BREACK THAT CURSE SO WE CAN ONCE AGAIN LIVE IN THE FACE OF GOD AND BE BLESSED FOR LIFE ,
Brother Pierre,
Thanks for your input one last time, your words do not hold water, in light of the scriptures, they are empty, dead, and just not true.
Your rationalization of scripture will never hold up for heaven, it is a foundation built on the sand of man's word.
God Bless
bro. MarlinTo all, there is a sad thing going on here on this forum. A lot of people have the spirit of the Pharisees and not the Spirit of God.
The fruit of the Spirit has fruit that is Love, Patience, etc. whereas the spirit of the Pharisees have Pride, no Patience.
Most in here are very prideful of what they hold to be the truth, but cannot use or read the scriptures without their pride colored glasses to justify their beliefs.
And much condemning going on here. That is what the Pharisee did, is condemn the common people, ( who by the way Jesus said they would go into Heaven before they would).
Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 18 2012,22:14) Brother Pierre, Thanks for your input one last time, your words do not hold water, in light of the scriptures, they are empty, dead, and just not true.
Your rationalization of scripture will never hold up for heaven, it is a foundation built on the sand of man's word.
God Bless
bro. Marlin
m1why are you arguing with me? wen it is with the scriptures that you are fighting ,
if you think you know better than scriptures this is your privilege ,but I will stick to scriptures as they are written .
Quote (Richtuner @ Dec. 18 2012,22:49) To all, there is a sad thing going on here on this forum. A lot of people have the spirit of the Pharisees and not the Spirit of God. The fruit of the Spirit has fruit that is Love, Patience, etc. whereas the spirit of the Pharisees have Pride, no Patience.
Most in here are very prideful of what they hold to be the truth, but cannot use or read the scriptures without their pride colored glasses to justify their beliefs.
And much condemning going on here. That is what the Pharisee did, is condemn the common people, ( who by the way Jesus said they would go into Heaven before they would).
what do you meanor what are you trying to project
II TIM 4:3 † For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 † And they shall turn away their ears from the truth,
and shall be turned unto fables.
MAT 22:14 † For many are called, but few are chosen.JOHN 8:31 ……, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 † And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.God Bless All
bro. MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 20 2012,10:31) II TIM 4:3 † For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine;
but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 † And they shall turn away their ears from the truth,
and shall be turned unto fables.
MAT 22:14 † For many are called, but few are chosen.JOHN 8:31 ……, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 † And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.God Bless All
bro. Marlin
do you really believe that you are right in scriptures and yet be stuck on only one verse ,wen all the scriptures tells you what it means
how old are you
12 or 14 at mostII TIM 4:2 † Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
REV 3:17 † Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 † I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 † As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
MARK 2:17 † When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
God Bless
bro. MarlinI have always wander about why religion always uses verse to set up their point ,they say it is direct and precise ,BUT IS IT ACCURATE
and my investigation as shown me it is some times NOT,
it would be like reading a book but you only read every tenth line ,how accurate your story in the book would be
would it not equal the your amount you have read ???yes it wouldthis is why not many understand the scriptures
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 29 2012,09:44) I have always wander about why religion always uses verse to set up their point ,they say it is direct and precise ,BUT IS IT ACCURATE and my investigation as shown me it is some times NOT,
it would be like reading a book but you only read every tenth line ,how accurate your story in the book would be
would it not equal the your amount you have read ???yes it wouldthis is why not many understand the scriptures
Scriptures are used by many to proof a piont,and can be misquoted and has been many times.This is why we must compere scripture with scripture to find the truth. Not compere scripture with books written by men.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 29 2012,23:48) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 29 2012,09:44) I have always wander about why religion always uses verse to set up their point ,they say it is direct and precise ,BUT IS IT ACCURATE and my investigation as shown me it is some times NOT,
it would be like reading a book but you only read every tenth line ,how accurate your story in the book would be
would it not equal the your amount you have read ???yes it wouldthis is why not many understand the scriptures
Scriptures are used by many to proof a piont,and can be misquoted and has been many times.This is why we must compere scripture with scripture to find the truth. Not compere scripture with books written by men.
wakeup.
2CO 2:9 For to this end also I wrote, so that I might put you to the test, whether you are obedient in all things.
2CO 13:5 Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test?
2CO 13:6 But I trust that you will realize that we ourselves do not fail the test.do it ,just do it, not only look at it
truth is like a puzzle ,how more pieces you have in place how more of the picture you see,
but in no way ,by looking at the mixed pieces you can see any sense of the picture ,,
this is how we know who is seeing with truth and the ones who do not ,
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2013,10:52) truth is like a puzzle ,how more pieces you have in place how more of the picture you see, but in no way ,by looking at the mixed pieces you can see any sense of the picture ,,
this is how we know who is seeing with truth and the ones who do not ,
Terra.You would not even recognise the truth even if she is staring you in the face.
wakeup.
JOHN 14:6 † Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Truth is not what you come up with with your mind!!!!!!!
God Bless
bro. MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Jan. 08 2013,06:41) JOHN 14:6 † Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Truth is not what you come up with with your mind!!!!!!!
God Bless
bro. Marlin
m1so if I give you directions to go some were ,your mind is not in it
how then would you know were to go wen I am gone Quote so if I give you directions to go some were ,your mind is not in it how then would you know were to go wen I am gone ————–
PierreSorry my Brother Pierre, we are not talking about your directions, we are speaking of the tree of LIFE, (WORD).
satan is the tree of knowledge. For it is a mixed tree (GOOD and EVIL), so you will get some truth and some lies. satan's lies will sound really good to the mind.
God is the tree of LIFE and God speaks to the heart. He only speaks truth and it will only be recognized by the heart.
We are told to live by FAITH, not knowledge.
God Bless
bro. Marlin
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