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- December 11, 2012 at 7:26 am#324097Marlin1Participant
Quote Have you changed your mind now(?) about Jesus being of the seed of the woman – Mary.
(See also Matthew 1:18, 20, Luke 1:35, Acts 1:14, Romans 3:1, Luke 3:23-38)God bless
Ed JBrother Ed,
I know you think you are right in this, but your knowledge is man made and you are wrong.
I know where I stand, I have told and showed you the truth. It is not my place to make anyone accept it, that is between you and God. Those that God can reveal truth to their hearts and will believe God's Word over man's word will see the truth, which will be very very few. All others will take the mark.
God Bless you in your search
bro. MarlinDecember 11, 2012 at 8:25 am#324111Ed JParticipantQuote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 11 2012,11:16) Sister Journey, And He was the seed of the woman spoken of in Genesis, the FLESH MAN JESUS.
Hi Marlin,What you have said here supports what I have been telling you all along.
But how you are piecing Scripture together in your mind does not. You
should at least explain why you do not believe Numbers 23:19 is true.Num 23:19 says that God is NOT “The Son of Man”; but you say he is – “WHY”?, “WHY”?, “WHY”?, “WHY”???
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 11, 2012 at 8:43 am#324113Ed JParticipantHi Marlin,
Do you believe that when Jesus called himself “The Son of Man”,
some 84 recorded times, that he really didn't mean himself ?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 11, 2012 at 1:20 pm#324126WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 11 2012,18:25) Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 11 2012,11:16) Sister Journey, And He was the seed of the woman spoken of in Genesis, the FLESH MAN JESUS.
Hi Marlin,What you have said here supports what I have been telling you all along.
But how you are piecing Scripture together in your mind does not. You
should at least explain why you do not believe Numbers 23:19 is true.Num 23:19 says that God is NOT “The Son of Man”; but you say he is – “WHY”?, “WHY”?, “WHY”?, “WHY”???
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed JWell done brother,that was a good scripture.
May God lead you on.
wakeup.
December 11, 2012 at 1:35 pm#324127journey42ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Dec. 11 2012,23:20) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 11 2012,18:25) Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 11 2012,11:16) Sister Journey, And He was the seed of the woman spoken of in Genesis, the FLESH MAN JESUS.
Hi Marlin,What you have said here supports what I have been telling you all along.
But how you are piecing Scripture together in your mind does not. You
should at least explain why you do not believe Numbers 23:19 is true.Num 23:19 says that God is NOT “The Son of Man”; but you say he is – “WHY”?, “WHY”?, “WHY”?, “WHY”???
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed JWell done brother,that was a good scripture.
May God lead you on.
wakeup.
Yes EdGood scripture. I would like to type it out.
Numbers 23:19 God is NOT A MAN, that he should lie; NEITHER THE SON OF MAN that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it; or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
December 11, 2012 at 2:25 pm#324129journey42ParticipantHi Marlin
Quote Whoever follows him in his ways, is his seed, through their DEEDS. Just like whoever follows Christ, is his seed also. Quote Sister Journey, The above is not entirely correct the way it is written. Many today believe that they just need to follow Christ, the best they can. Jesus said,
John 8:41 Ye do the DEEDS of YOUR FATHER.
Then they said to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me; for I proceed forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
John 8:44 Ye are of your father THE DEVIL, and the LUSTS of YOUR FATHER, ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie; he speaketh of his own; for HE IS A LIAR and THE FATHER OF IT.
Quote “MAT 7:22 † Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 † And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.Marlin, this is not relevant to our discussion. We know there are christians not serving in spirit and in truth. The point I am trying to prove is that that our DEEDS will tell who's seed we belong to. It's one or the other, God or Satan, whether we be christian or no christian, it's our deeds (actions) that determines this.
Galatians 6:7 Be not decieved; God is not mocked, for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Galatians 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
December 11, 2012 at 2:59 pm#324130journey42Participantjourney42,Dec. wrote:[/quote]
Brother MarlinThankyou for answering me, but we are going all over the place now. Before I even touch the subject of “born again”, can we please get this one sorted first.
You said the serpent was not Satan, but Satan was in him, therefore the serpent was cursed above all creatures and God turned him into a snake?
Genesis 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: AND GOD SAW THAT IT WAS GOOD
You say Satan cannot create. I say ok, because we know in the beginning God created all the animals and Adam named them. Does it make sense to you that God would punish and curse one of his own creations because Satan entered it? Wouldn't God be more angry at Satan than the innocent creature?
Remember the creation of animals was already done and finished on the 5th day. Did God keep creating? Was he not really finished? God said his creation on the 5th day was good, and everything was done by day 6.
Can you please then explain what this scripture means to you.
Rev 12:9 And the GREAT DRAGON was cast out, THAT OLD SERPENT, …CALLED THE DEVIL and SATAN., which decieveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth and his angels were cast out with him.
Quote In Revelations serpent seems to be use as meaning the same as satan.
Why then?December 11, 2012 at 6:20 pm#324142RichtunerParticipantjourney42, sorry I did not get personal and make clear on who I was talking about.
Marlin1 can see the scriptures that said that Adam knew Eve and bear Able and yet the same thing is said about Cain, but because he wants to believe that Cain was born from Satan, (or the serpent) he cannot see these are not different in any way. If you read the Word in Gen. 4 it says that Adam knew Eve AND she bare a son Cain.
The forbidden fruit many sound good to say it was sex, but the bible said it was a tree.
Again it's okay to believe that the tree of life is a tree, but it's not okay to believe the tree of good and evil is not a tree.
It all has to do with what you believe as a foundation, then you have to prove it or prove it to be false.The only problem is that you can't take scriptures that don't fit into the foundation as force them by using them with your opinion.
Judas went out and hanged himself because of what he done, I can't take that and add the statement that Jesus said, Go and do ye likewise” to make a doctrine that if you sin you should hang yourself.Then when people don't agree with you claim your the only who is not in darkness.
If any scriptures you use can compliment, support, and agree and fit in the foundation then it's okay, but if it seems to disagree, contradict in any way then it is not to be used.It's too easy to take someones word or teaching about something and never ask, “is this a word that is rightly divided”.
I have seen some others who will not acknowledge other scriptures that don't fit or work into what they are saying and keep trying to convince others that they have truth when they can't acknowledge scriptures that contradict what they are saying.
If all the scriptures don't agree, then you lack understanding and wisdom. When knowledge is lacking wisdom and understanding it will puff you up because you think you know it all, but can't put it together.
It starts with knowledge, but knowledge must have the wisdom and understanding to put it into practice.Pro_21:30 There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD
(I might add that is also against His Word)Pro_4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
Pro_3:19 The LORD by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.
Pro_10:13 In the lips of him that hath understanding wisdom is found: but a rod is for the back of him that is void of understanding.
Pro_16:16 How much better is it to get wisdom than gold! and to get understanding rather to be chosen than silver!
Way too many are in the bible about wisdom and understanding to quote, but if you want to build and establish yourself in God then make sure all you know is supported be wisdom and understanding.
December 11, 2012 at 11:41 pm#324148Marlin1ParticipantQuote What you have said here supports what I have been telling you all along.
But how you are piecing Scripture together in your mind does not. You
should at least explain why you do not believe Numbers 23:19 is true.Num 23:19 says that God is NOT “The Son of Man”; but you say he is – “WHY”?, “WHY”?, “WHY”?, “WHY”
No my Brother Ed, it does not. You may want it to so bad, that you try to make it say that.
First off women, DO NOT HAVE A SEED. This was speaking of a seed GIVEN. Mary had no part of that seed.I believe I have already told you the truth about Num 23:19, Jesus was not 'a son of man', HE was 'THE Son of Man'… He was SINLESS, He was GOD in Flesh.
And you received it NOT.God Bless
bro. MarlinDecember 12, 2012 at 12:30 am#324151Marlin1ParticipantQuote Marlin, this is not relevant to our discussion. We know there are christians not serving in spirit and in truth. The point I am trying to prove is that that our DEEDS will tell who's seed we belong to. It's one or the other, God or Satan, whether we be christian or no christian, it's our deeds (actions) that determines this. Galatians 6:7 Be not decieved; God is not mocked, for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Galatians 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.Sister Journey, I see your point, I just disagree with you.
Let me give an example about 2000 years ago.
“Look at this old priest. His great-great-great- grandfather was a priest. He had to be born in that lineage of Levites, to be a priest. We find out, now, he doesn't have a young man's life like the rest of did. What does he do? He sacrifices himself, he is up there to study the Word, the Word of God.He goes through it, day and night, day and night, has to know every letter of it, every word on the scroll. He has to know it by heart.
“Then, besides that, when your father and mother was married, who joined them together as husband and wife? Your kind old priest.
Who was it come to your father when he was in need and had owed some money on his farm, that the mortgagers was going to take it. Who stood by him? Your kind old priest.
Who stood by your mother in the room there when she was giving birth to you? Kind old priest.
Who comes to you when you're sick and needy? Your kind old priest.
Who was it blessed you and committed you to God, and circumcised you the eighth day? Your kind old priest.
When your father and mother was about to divorce, who brought them back together, held them together? Your kind old priest.
When there is trouble in the neighborhood, who takes care of it? Your kind old priest. Certainly.
“Now this kind old priest knows that the Bible said that God requires a lamb for a sacrifice.
God requires a sheep. They made some stalls up there, they sold their sheep so that the people could go up and buy it, offering a sacrifice for their soul, that God requires.
“What did this young Fellow, called Jesus do?
Where did He come from?
Said He was born, a virgin birth. Whoever heard of such a nonsense thing?
We know His mother had Him before her and Joseph was married.
Now we find out that He's got a bad name, to begin with.“What membership card does He have?
If He was a godly Man, what group did He join with?
When your priest studied, studied, studied, studied, to know that Word; here He comes around, tearing down what he has built up. Would you call that 'God'? Certainly not.“Now, the other day, when your priest had made that place up there, for where you could buy the sacrifice, what did this young fellow do? He put some ropes together, and looked out upon the people, with anger; kicked over those tables, and beat them out of there.
Depriving the man of his opportunity to worship Jehovah!
And HE called the kind Old Priest a son of the satan, because they rejected the WORD.
Look at just about any of the churches today and you have the same thing. They have lots of good DEEDS, yet they don't follow the WORD.
Deeds are not the test of a Christian.
The deeds of a true Christian are like sheep's wool. The sheep doesn't have to try to produce wool, it just comes. And neither do they.Paul also said, ROM 8:9 † But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Unless a person if born again, the person is always in the flesh.
God Bless
bro. MarlinDecember 12, 2012 at 12:51 am#324156Marlin1ParticipantQuote Rev 12:9 And the GREAT DRAGON was cast out, THAT OLD SERPENT, …CALLED THE DEVIL and SATAN., which decieveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth and his angels were cast out with him. Quote
In Revelations serpent seems to be use as meaning the same as satan.Why then?
Sister Journey,
1) Why did the eating of fruit, require a blood sacrifice?
2) Please explain the seed of the serpent?
The seed of the woman, was the flesh seed (Jesus) and the seed of the serpent was the same.Then I will address your question.
God Bless
bro. MarlinDecember 12, 2012 at 2:15 am#324166RichtunerParticipanta note to all about the seed.
There are two things that have seed in man and one in women.The one in man and women is their tongues, the one that women don't have is the male's organs.
We all know that men have seed to reproduce, but don't remember that the bible talks about sowing of words, like seeds of discord etc.
Remember the parable of the sower? The seed is the Word of God.
Our confession of God's word is our seed that we sow in our lives. The Word says that if we confess, we are sowing the Word.When the Angel talked with Mary, she SAID, “so be it unto me”.
Compare this to when the same Angel talked with Zacharias about his wife Elizabeth just before Mary and he did not believe it, but acted in a way that the Angel shut his mouth up so he could not speak, (sow words) against the words of the Angel.
No, women don't have the same seed as the man's seed to reproduce, but they do have the same capacity as men to sow seeds of words.
Prov. said we have the power of life and death in our tongues.December 12, 2012 at 2:24 am#324169WakeupParticipantGods woman:(spiritual woman).
Rev.12.The woman with a crown of 12 stars,and standing on the mooon,not the earth.Jesus was spiritually born out of this woman,and physically born out of Mary.For he was born by the WILL of GOD.
Isaiah 66:7.8. She will give birth to a nation in one day(day of resurrection).She=Zion the holy city of GOD.
verse,12.13.Same woman.
Are we dwelling in Zion or are we dwelling in the city of satan;BABYLON THE GREAT. if anyone is: then come out of her my people,so you wont receive of her plagues.
wakeup.
December 12, 2012 at 4:13 am#324188journey42ParticipantHi Richtuner
Quote journey42, sorry I did not get personal and make clear on who I was talking about. Thank you for clearing that up. I really appreciate it brother, as I've enjoyed reading the points you have put accross in this debate.
Quote Marlin1 can see the scriptures that said that Adam knew Eve and bear Able and yet the same thing is said about Cain, but because he wants to believe that Cain was born from Satan, (or the serpent) he cannot see these are not different in any way. If you read the Word in Gen. 4 it says that Adam knew Eve AND she bare a son Cain.
I totally agree with you. The word is the final authority. Adam was the only one that had sex with Eve. We have to stick with the scriptures.Quote The forbidden fruit many sound good to say it was sex, but the bible said it was a tree.
Absolutely. It was nothing else. I don't need to prove this to you but we need to prove to brother MarlinGen 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the TREE of KNOWLEDGE OF GOODAND EVIL thou shalt not EAT of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof THOU SHALT SURELY DIEJust one rule, a simple tree, for simple Adam and Eve. Don't eat the fruit of THAT TREE, but every other tree, you can eat.
You know God has given us a record here of that event. He has not hidden this and tricked us. Genesis is straight forward and so simple that some religions think there has to something more to it.Quote Again it's okay to believe that the tree of life is a tree, but it's not okay to believe the tree of good and evil is not a tree.
It all has to do with what you believe as a foundation, then you have to prove it or prove it to be false
It's a tree alright. And God called it that, not because the tree has magical powers, because all knowledge of everything comes from God anyway. The tree was put there because God set a trap for Satan. He knows there is evil in his heart, and he want's it to manifest, to be born. This is his purpose for us, to expose evil and then later destroy it. God had this all planned out in the beginning. He is ALL KNOWING. Evil must be presented to us, so that we can make a choice. To resist or accept. Evil is needed to sift out the good from the bad. It's a tool, and without evil existing, we would not be able to glorify God's righteousness. It would not stand out. Like if you put something ugly against something beautiful, you can see the difference, or you put black against white, or hot against cold. There has to be a comparison for it to be appreciated.Quote The only problem is that you can't take scriptures that don't fit into the foundation as force them by using them with your opinion. Yes of course.
Quote If any scriptures you use can compliment, support, and agree and fit in the foundation then it's okay, but if it seems to disagree, contradict in any way then it is not to be used.
Exactly. It should be thrown out of court.Quote If all the scriptures don't agree, then you lack understanding and wisdom. When knowledge is lacking wisdom and understanding it will puff you up because you think you know it all, but can't put it together.
It starts with knowledge, but knowledge must have the wisdom and understanding to put it into practice.
Amen brotherQuote Pro_21:30 There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD
(I might add that is also against His Word)Pro_4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
Pro_3:19 The LORD by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.
Pro_10:13 In the lips of him that hath understanding wisdom is found: but a rod is for the back of him that is void of understanding.
Pro_16:16 How much better is it to get wisdom than gold! and to get understanding rather to be chosen than silver!
Your on the right track brother, you understand the importance of knowlege, wisdom and understanding. Without it we can be decieved so easily.
The greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and mind. If we put God first, above men, above religion, above tradition, family, church, and everything else, and come to him like a little child knowing absolutely nothing, and feed on his Word, hungry for truth wanting to know everthing, then he will dwell in us. The more we search and find, the more truth in us, and the holy spirit grows, each man having his own measure according to his labour. And by labour, I don't mean standing in a mall handing out pamphlets, or knocking door to door, or telling everyone that they must be “born again”, it means feeding on God's Word, and when we soak it in, it goes everywhere with us. We will then have the wisdom to know what is from God, and what isn't, because it's in us now. And then we understand what God means when he says not to feed on strange flesh, but only the flesh of Christ, and this is where many go wrong. They want to find somethiing out they don't understand, so they ask their pastor, or get a book on the subject and look to others for the answer. And they hear it and go, ooh that makes sense! I think I will stick with this explanation for the rest of my life, and call it truth, and anyone that doesn't agree with this in error and can't be born again, and so it goes!
God Doesn't work this way. The foundation is gone, so the truth goes, and Satan is so cunning, he sends a flood after the woman, and at the moment he killing christians, not physically but spiritually, doing the soft kill thing, devoiding them of truth. We have to be on guard at all times, and we have to bring these ones back to God and we go back to scripture like a little child.Nice talking with you brother. God bless, and thankyou. Keep up the good work in the Lord.
December 12, 2012 at 4:56 am#324190Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Dec. 11 2012,23:20) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 11 2012,18:25) Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 11 2012,11:16) Sister Journey, And He was the seed of the woman spoken of in Genesis, the FLESH MAN JESUS.
Hi Marlin,What you have said here supports what I have been telling you all along.
But how you are piecing Scripture together in your mind does not. You
should at least explain why you do not believe Numbers 23:19 is true.Num 23:19 says that God is NOT “The Son of Man”; but you say he is – “WHY”?, “WHY”?, “WHY”?, “WHY”???
God bless
Ed J
Ed JWell done brother,that was a good scripture.
May God lead you on.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Thank you brother.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 12, 2012 at 5:42 am#324198Ed JParticipantQuote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 12 2012,09:41) Quote What you have said here supports what I have been telling you all along.
But how you are piecing Scripture together in your mind does not. You
should at least explain why you do not believe Numbers 23:19 is true.Num 23:19 says that God is NOT “The Son of Man”; but you say he is – “WHY”?, “WHY”?, “WHY”?, “WHY”
No my Brother Ed, it does not. You may want it to so bad, that you try to make it say that.
First off women, DO NOT HAVE A SEED. This was speaking of a seed GIVEN. Mary had no part of that seed.I believe I have already told you the truth about Num 23:19, Jesus was not 'a son of man', HE was 'THE Son of Man'… He was SINLESS, He was GOD in Flesh.
And you received it NOT.God Bless
bro. Marlin
Hi Marlin,“God is not a man, that he should lie;
neither “The Son of Man”, that he should repent: hath he said,
and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? (AKJV Num 23:19)Are you suggesting then, that (according to you) the AKJV translators – translated Num 23:19 incorrectly? (<– please explain)
You just saying something doesn't make it so. You need to explain to us,
or at the very least put certain scripture together, that would
illustrate the conclusions that you have drawn.But you seen to only offer us your opinion,
without showing us the exact scriptural support.
(example) “I draw this conclusion…” from Numbers 23:19
(and you have yet to address this apparent discrepancy in your Theology)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 12, 2012 at 6:19 am#324202journey42ParticipantHi Marlin
Quote Rev 12:9 And the GREAT DRAGON was cast out, THAT OLD SERPENT, …CALLED THE DEVIL and SATAN., which decieveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth and his angels were cast out with him. I'll just keep this up here so that we don't forget about it!
Quote Sister Journey, 1) Why did the eating of fruit, require a blood sacrifice?
Brother, please make yourself more clearer here, as I know the Hebrews made blood sacrifces with lambs and goats, and bulls, and then God made himself a sacrifce with Christ. But you are feeding on strange flesh, so I don't know how to directly answer your question? or if you are referring to Cain as a blood sacrifice?
Gen 3:17 ….”for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die”?
Who was cursed here for eating of that tree ?
Genesis 3:14 And the Lord God said to unto the SERPENT, … because THOU HAS DONE this…THOU ARE CURSED above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shall thou eat all the days of thy life.Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: CURSED IS THE GROUND for thy sake. In sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life.
So we have two curses. One for the SERPENT, and one for the GROUND (for Adams sake). Not once did it say that Adam or eve was cursed, but they were punished. Like when you correct a child, you just punish, never curse.
Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception, In sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Lets go back a little
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 1:28 And GOD BLESSED THEM and God said unto them, be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and oer the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.When God blesses, he blesses. He told Adam and Eve to multiply (with each other)
Since creation, man has carried out everything that he blessed Adam and Eve with. Man has multiplied, has dominion over all the animals, and everything that moves upon the earth. Man was not cursed then, but just punished for eating of the tree. He was kicked out of that cursed ground, that Garden, and sent to another area. And when he dies, he becomes dust again, just like the serpents food. Dirt and death.Now regarding your “blood sacrifice”, scripture tells us what sort of a sacrifice God required.
Genesis 4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the FRUIT OF THE GROUND an offering unto the Lord.
Genesis 4:4 And Abel, HE ALSO BROUGHT OF THE FIRST OF HIS FLOCK AND OF THE FAT THEREOF, and the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering.The sacrifice was a portion of their produce to God. It does not say for sin atonement, but in honour of God, to acknowledge that all comes from him anyway.
But God was not as happy with Cain's offering, as he was with Abel's. Why? It does not say exactly here, but we know from other scriptures with the Hebrews, that when an offering is given to God, it MUST BE THE BEST. The lambs had to be without spot. PERFECT. So Cain's offering was not the best produce he had. He must of kept the best for himself, and gave God the lesser quality. THIS IS A BIG NO NO WHEN IT COMES TO GIVING TO GOD, and Abel's offering was more respected.
So now with jealousy in Cain, he killed his brother, and this was the first man to be CURSED. If you are implying that the first blood offering was for Eve's sin, as you say she had sex with the Serpent, and therefore God took her Son's life for compensation, then remember, CAIN WOULD NOT BE A PERFECT SACRIFICE WITHOUT BLEMISH. He was defiled, and this would be an insult to God.
Quote 2) Please explain the seed of the serpent?
The seed of the woman, was the flesh seed (Jesus) and the seed of the serpent was the same.
Then I will address your question.I've already explained this. Rev chapter 12. (Zion, The WOMAN) , and the Serpent is no other than SATAN. Whoever is of Babylon, Satan's kingdom, is the seed of the serpent, and whoever is of Zion, God's kingdom is the seed of The Woman.
You know the parable of the sower. The sower is sowing seed (truth) in a field (the world) and in the night the enemy comes and sows another seed (weeds, which are lies, false doctrines)
You are the seed, spiritually speaking. But who sowed you? What did you feed on? Truth or lies? Which foundation did you build on?
And the weeds and the wheat have to grow together, and when harvest comes they must be separated. Then all will know who's seed we are from.December 12, 2012 at 12:04 pm#324219Ed JParticipantHi Journey42,
Bridging the gap from Spiritual to the physical and applying
the Spiritual application is difficult for some; Good Post!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDecember 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm#324222journey42ParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Dec. 12 2012,22:04) Hi Journey42, Bridging the gap from Spiritual to the physical and applying
the Spiritual application is difficult for some; Good Post!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Thanks Ed.I also forgot to mention to you that I loved this question of yours to Marlin
Quote The Bible says that Adam also did eat.
Are you suggesting that Adam also had
sexual relations with the serpent as well?That was a very good question
December 12, 2012 at 3:57 pm#324225journey42ParticipantQuote (Richtuner @ Nov. 03 2012,04:57) terraricca,
What bothers me so much is that knowing it is the Devil who has come to steal, kill and destroy, and people will do the same thing with the Word.
I am adding understanding and more knowledge to the Word, (even if you don't see it for yourself), not taking anything away from it.
To take away anything from the Word or it's meaning is doing just what the Devil likes to do,
Steal something form the Word, (or it's meaning) killing the meaning of the Word, and destroying the effectiveness of the Word.
Hi RichtunerI'm reading all these posts from the beginning, and I like this one, and just want to say Amen brother.
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