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  • #323280
    terraricca
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    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,06:36)

    Quote (terraria @ Dec. 03 2012,10:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,05:35)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,10:09)

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    this as been answered many times in different topics

    so I do it again;

    Adam his the one that sinned and so brings sin into his world (men's)

    and so DEAD physical dead that his ;

    Brother Pierre,

    We do NOT inherit the SINS of our FATHERS,  EZE 18:20

    So How do we inherit the SINS of ADAM and not break scriptures?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    The sinning nature is in our blood.
    I thought I made this point clear to you. (perhaps not)
    But Christ did not have Adam's blood (as we have previously discussed).

    God bless
    Ed J


    eddy

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    But Christ did not have Adam's blood (as we have previously discussed).

    so you finally understand Christ birth of a surrogate mother  :)


    No Pierrey,

    Science has surmised that blood in the fetus comes from the father.
    Since the “Holy Spirit” was Jesus Father, that means Jesus had
    “God Blood” coursing through his veins. (See Acts 20:28)

    “For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar
     to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood (of Jesus Christ)
     that maketh an atonement for the soul.” (Leviticus 17:11)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    eddy

    God blood was not in Christ ;;HIS GOD NOW FLESH ???

    his God the offspring of David ???

    science as nothing to do in God's will ,sins wen does God rely s on men ???

    Lk 3:23 Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph,

    how many people did know the truth then ???

    #323290
    Marlin1
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    Hi Marlin,

    There is the third choice, that you apparently have missed.
    “The Word” is the “HolySpirit” – GOD just as John 1:1 says.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,  You just agreed that the Holy Spirit and the Father were the same Spirit.
    Now you are saying the Word (the Son of God) is the Holy Spirit.

    Which is what I said to begin with, for the Holy Spirit is GOD.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #323292
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    Science has surmised that blood in the fetus comes from the father.

    Brother Ed,

    Why do you continue to quote this, since everybody knows that the DNA in the BLOOD comes from both parents.  WHICH MEANS THAT THE BLOOD IS FROM BOTH PARENTS.

    Get real.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #323296
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,13:10)

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    Hi Marlin,

    There is the third choice, that you apparently have missed.
    “The Word” is the “HolySpirit” – GOD just as John 1:1 says.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,  You just agreed that the Holy Spirit and the Father were the same Spirit.
    Now you are saying the Word (the Son of God) is the Holy Spirit.

    Which is what I said to begin with, for the Holy Spirit is GOD.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Not so, Marlin,

    Is the “HolySpirit” and the “Spirit of Christ” the same?  No!  (Link)

    “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
    and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.”  (John 14:23)

    “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the
     (1)Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the
     (2)Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”  (Romans 8:9)

               1) The Spirit of God(HolySpirit)
               2) Spirit of Christ(spirit of Jesus)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #323297
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,13:14)

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    Science has surmised that blood in the fetus comes from the father.

    Brother Ed,

    Why do you continue to quote this, since everybody knows that the DNA in the BLOOD comes from both parents.  WHICH MEANS THAT THE BLOOD IS FROM BOTH PARENTS.

    Get real.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    The DNA is from both parents.
    But Jesus blood originated from his Father.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #323298
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,08:39)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,13:14)

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    Science has surmised that blood in the fetus comes from the father.

    Brother Ed,

    Why do you continue to quote this, since everybody knows that the DNA in the BLOOD comes from both parents.  WHICH MEANS THAT THE BLOOD IS FROM BOTH PARENTS.

    Get real.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    The DNA is from both parents.
    But Jesus blood originated from his Father.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    you overlook this ;

    God blood was not in Christ ;;HIS GOD NOW FLESH

    his God the offspring of David

    science as nothing to do in God's will ,sins wen does God rely s on men

    Lk 3:23 Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph,

    how many people did know the truth then

    God does not have dna ,and if he does HOW DO YOU KNOW IT IS HIS ???

    #323303
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the
    (1)Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the
    (2)Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”  (Romans 8:9)

              1) The Spirit of God(HolySpirit)
              2) Spirit of Christ(spirit of Jesus)

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    You said, “”The Word” is the “Holy Spirit” “

    The Word became FLESH….

    The Holy Spirit is God and so God became FLESH.

    If you notice it doesn't say the Spirit of Jesus, it says the Spirit of Christ (the Anointer)
    It was always the same Spirit.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #323308
    Ed J
    Participant

    “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to
    all the flock, over the which the HolySpirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he
    (the HolySpirit) hath purchased with his own blood. (Acts 20:28)

    #323310
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,09:22)
    “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to
    all the flock, over the which the HolySpirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he
    (the HolySpirit) hath purchased with his own blood. (Acts 20:28)


    EDJ

    that is a mis representation of scriptures ,please show the scriptures as they are in the bible not as you want them to read

    #323311
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,14:16)

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    “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the
    (1)Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the
    (2)Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”  (Romans 8:9)

              1) The Spirit of God(HolySpirit)
              2) Spirit of Christ(spirit of Jesus)

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    You said, “”The Word” is the “Holy Spirit” “

    (A)The Word became FLESH….

    (B)The Holy Spirit is God and so God became FLESH.

    (C)If you notice it doesn't say the Spirit of Jesus, it says the Spirit of Christ (the Anointer)
    It was always the same Spirit.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    A) Yes   (See John 1:14, Acts 10:38, and 1Tm.3:16)

    B) The Holy Spirit is God and so God became FLESH first IN JESUS, then in us.

          the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14) com-
          pared
    with the glory which shall be revealed in us
    . (Romans 8:18)

    The Word of the oath, which was since the law,
    maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. (Hebrews 7:28)

    1Pet.1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of
    incorruptible, by “The Word” of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

    Of his own will begat he us with “The Word” of truth,
    that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18)

    C) The “spirit of Jesus” became the “Spirit of Christ” after Jordan,
        when his spirit became one with the Fathers, as does ours.  (See Heb.12:9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #323312
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2012,14:28)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,09:22)
    “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to
    all the flock, over the which the HolySpirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he
    (the HolySpirit) hath purchased with his own blood. (Acts 20:28)


    EDJ

    that is a mis representation of scriptures ,please show the scriptures as they are in the bible not as you want them to read


    Your understanding is misrepresentation of scriptures.

    #323313
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,09:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2012,14:28)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,09:22)
    “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to
    all the flock, over the which the HolySpirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he
    (the HolySpirit) hath purchased with his own blood. (Acts 20:28)


    EDJ

    that is a mis representation of scriptures ,please show the scriptures as they are in the bible not as you want them to read


    Your understanding is misrepresentation of scriptures.


    edj

    Ac 20:28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.
    Ac 20:29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
    Ac 20:30 Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.

    the holy spirit his the TRUTH in this case

    #323316
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    Hi Marlin,

    The DNA is from both parents.
    But Jesus blood originated from his Father.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed, this in no way solves your problem.  If you put Mary's DNA in Jesus, then Jesus came as a sinner and saved no one.

    Why are we born with a SINFUL NATURE or SINFUL FLESH?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #323320
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,14:51)

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    Hi Marlin,

    The DNA is from both parents.
    But Jesus blood originated from his Father.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed, this in no way solves your problem.  If you put Mary's DNA in Jesus, then Jesus came as a sinner and saved no one.

    Why are we born with a SINFUL NATURE or SINFUL FLESH?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    I have NO problem.

    We are not born with sinful flesh.
    But we are born with a sinful nature,
    because we have Adams blood coursing
    through our veins. Unlike Jesus, who didn't.

    Once we become “One” with the “HolySpirit” and
    with the “spirit of Christ” that nature is transformed.  
       (See John 14:23, John 17:22, and 1Peter 1:4)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #323321
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,15:25)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,14:51)

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    Hi Marlin,

    The DNA is from both parents.
    But Jesus blood originated from his Father.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed, this in no way solves your problem.  If you put Mary's DNA in Jesus, then Jesus came as a sinner and saved no one.

    Why are we born with a SINFUL NATURE or SINFUL FLESH?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    I have NO problem.

    We are not born with sinful flesh.
    But we are born with a sinful nature,
    because we have Adams blood coursing
    through our veins. Unlike Jesus, who didn't.

    Once we become “One” with the “HolySpirit” and
    with the “spirit of Christ” that nature is transformed.  
       (See John 14:23, John 17:22, and 1Peter 1:4)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    “For the life of the flesh is in the blood” (Lev 17:11)

    #323330
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    Posted: Dec. 03 2012,15:25 QUOTE
    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,14:51)
    Quote
    Hi Marlin,

    The DNA is from both parents.
    But Jesus blood originated from his Father.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed, this in no way solves your problem.  If you put Mary's DNA in Jesus, then Jesus came as a sinner and saved no one.

    Why are we born with a SINFUL NATURE or SINFUL FLESH?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    Hi Marlin,

    I have NO problem.

    We are not born with sinful flesh.
    But we are born with a sinful nature,
    because we have Adams blood coursing
    through our veins. Unlike Jesus, who didn't.

    Once we become “One” with the “HolySpirit” and
    with the “spirit of Christ” that nature is transformed.  
      (See John 14:23, John 17:22, and 1Peter 1:4)

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    We are Born in Sinful Flesh.

    GAL 5:17 † For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

    ROM 7:18 † For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
    19 † For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
    20 † Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

    Paul new different then you.  He new that flesh was evil to its core and He also new that our flesh must be changed.  Yet for some odd reason you don't believe that.

    You still have not answered why we are born with a SINFUL Nature?
    I don't believe you know why, you just accept what you have been taught to you.

    I guarantee you that we are born sinners.  There is no good thing in the flesh of MAN.
    Mary had no part in the makeup of Jesus Christ.

    #323331
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    Posted: Dec. 03 2012,15:25 QUOTE
    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,14:51)
    Quote
    Hi Marlin,

    The DNA is from both parents.
    But Jesus blood originated from his Father.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed, this in no way solves your problem.  If you put Mary's DNA in Jesus, then Jesus came as a sinner and saved no one.

    Why are we born with a SINFUL NATURE or SINFUL FLESH?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    Hi Marlin,

    I have NO problem.

    We are not born with sinful flesh.
    But we are born with a sinful nature,
    because we have Adams blood coursing
    through our veins. Unlike Jesus, who didn't.

    Once we become “One” with the “HolySpirit” and
    with the “spirit of Christ” that nature is transformed.  
      (See John 14:23, John 17:22, and 1Peter 1:4)

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    We are Born in Sinful Flesh.

    GAL 5:17 † For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

    ROM 7:18 † For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
    19 † For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
    20 † Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

    Paul new different then you.  He new that flesh was evil to its core and He also new that our flesh must be changed.  Yet for some odd reason you don't believe that.

    You still have not answered why we are born with a SINFUL Nature?
    I don't believe you know why, you just accept what you have been taught.

    I guarantee you that we are born sinners.  There is no good thing in the flesh of MAN.
    Mary had no part in the makeup of Jesus Christ.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #323332
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,16:43)
    Brother Ed,

    You still have not answered why we are born with a SINFUL Nature?


    Because the life in the flesh is in the blood.

    #323334
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,11:49)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,16:43)
    Brother Ed,

    You still have not answered why we are born with a SINFUL Nature?


    Because the life in the flesh is in the blood.


    Edj

    If the life was truly in the blood Adam would not have died,

    #323338
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    You still have not answered why we are born with a SINFUL Nature?

    Because the life in the flesh is in the blood.

    Brother Ed,

    So you and I are sinners, because our blood is tainted.

    Is that what you are saying?

    How did it get tainted?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

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