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[Marlin1]

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Hi Marlin, Then you agree that the “HolySpirit” is Jesus' Farther – correct? God bless Ed J

Brother Ed,

I agree that the SPIRIT of GOD, who is the Father, who is the Holy Spirit, who is the Son of God created Jesus the Man.

Does that help.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

[terraricca]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 02 2012,06:14)

Quote Hi Marlin, Then you agree that the “HolySpirit” is Jesus' Farther – correct? God bless Ed J Brother Ed, I agree that the SPIRIT of GOD, who is the Father, who is the Holy Spirit, who is the Son of God created Jesus the Man. Does that help. God Bless bro. Marlin

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this looks like a spaggetty formula

[Ed J]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 02 2012,11:14)

Quote Hi Marlin, Then you agree that the “HolySpirit” is Jesus' Farther – correct? God bless Ed J Brother Ed, I agree that the SPIRIT of GOD, who is the Father, who is the Holy Spirit, who is the Son of God created Jesus the Man. Does that help. God Bless bro. Marlin

Hi Marlin,

Yea, it helps me pinpoint the problem with your theology.  

I agree with most of what you just said, all except the part I colored red.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Richtuner]

To all:
I continually find the same things debated in most threads and using the same thoughts and scriptures.

To those who don't believe in the original sin will have a hard time explaining the sin in all of us.

Read Rom. 5 real close and you will find that by one man, (Adam) sin brought death, (spiritual and physical) into the world, (mankind) because death is passed down to all for all have sinned.

[Marlin1]

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To all: I continually find the same things debated in most threads and using the same thoughts and scriptures. To those who don't believe in the original sin will have a hard time explaining the sin in all of us. Read Rom. 5 real close and you will find that by one man, (Adam) sin brought death, (spiritual and physical)  into the world, (mankind) because death is passed down to all for all have sinned.

Brother Rich,

I have been trying to pull this out of this group, but you are the first that may understand.
Do you care to elaborate on this first sin? How it can be passed down?

God Bless
bro. Marlin

[Marlin1]

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Hi Marlin, Yea, it helps me pinpoint the problem with your theology.   I agree with most of what you just said, all except the part I colored red. God bless Ed J

So Brother Ed,  
1). you can see that the Spirit of God is the FATHER
2). you can see that the Spirit of God is the Holy Ghost

3). you can not see that the Spirit of God is the Son of God (in Jesus)

Well, you are two out of three, at least instead of having three gods like some, you only have two.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

[terraricca]

Quote (Richtuner @ Dec. 03 2012,01:52)

To all: I continually find the same things debated in most threads and using the same thoughts and scriptures. To those who don't believe in the original sin will have a hard time explaining the sin in all of us. Read Rom. 5 real close and you will find that by one man, (Adam) sin brought death, (spiritual and physical)  into the world, (mankind) because death is passed down to all for all have sinned.

this as been answered many times in different topics

so I do it again;

Adam his the one that sinned and so brings sin into his world (men's)

and so DEAD physical dead that his ;

Christ comes and tell s us that their his an spiritual dead and he comes to save us from that one ;and to collect that life we must refuse to do the works of the one that started the rebellion Satan what means opposition ,so we have two options one to follow God through Christ proposal or follow the Devil in his proposal ,one will lead us to life and the other one to spiritual dead and sins we are already physically dead it would mean twice dead or second dead were no one comes back from.why because that would mean that you have sin against the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD,

[Ed J]

Quote (Richtuner @ Dec. 03 2012,06:52)

To all: I continually find the same things debated in most threads and using the same thoughts and scriptures. To those who don't believe in the original sin will have a hard time explaining the sin in all of us. Read Rom. 5 real close and you will find that by one man, (Adam) sin brought death, (spiritual and physical)  into the world, (mankind) because death is passed down to all for all have sinned.

Hi Rich,

Yes, thanks.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,09:15)

Quote Hi Marlin, Yea, it helps me pinpoint the problem with your theology.   I agree with most of what you just said, all except the part I colored red. God bless Ed J So Brother Ed,   1). you can see that the Spirit of God is the FATHER 2). you can see that the Spirit of God is the Holy Ghost 3). you can not see that the Spirit of God is the Son of God (in Jesus) 4). Well, you are two out of three, at least instead of having three gods like some, you only have two. God Bless bro. Marlin

Hi Marlin,

1) That is the truth, regardless what one sees.
2) That is the truth, regardless what one sees.

3) Thread:  
    Is the “HolySpirit” & the “Spirit of Christ” the same?  (Link)

4) I only have “ONE GOD: THE FATHER”.      …you mean you have three gods?

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Marlin1]

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this as been answered many times in different topics so I do it again; Adam his the one that sinned and so brings sin into his world (men's) and so DEAD physical dead that his ;

Brother Pierre,

We do NOT inherit the SINS of our FATHERS, EZE 18:20

So How do we inherit the SINS of ADAM and not break scriptures?

God Bless
bro. Marlin

[terraricca]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,05:09)

Quote this as been answered many times in different topics so I do it again; Adam his the one that sinned and so brings sin into his world (men's) and so DEAD physical dead that his ; Brother Pierre, We do NOT inherit the SINS of our FATHERS,  EZE 18:20 So How do we inherit the SINS of ADAM and not break scriptures? God Bless bro. Marlin

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the transmision of dead his one sin that can not be remove unless you are saved by Christ

We do NOT inherit the SINS of our FATHERS, EZE 18:20

those are the fathers own sins this his not Adam 's sin

[Richtuner]

Marlin1, I have posted this in other threads and it's seems that it goes beyond their ability to grasp it. It is no secrete that it is the Spirit of God that will revile the truth to our spirits not our minds. It is up to us to renew our minds.
Things that Gods states in His Word are like Peter that said is hard to be understood, but must be believed by faith and meditated until it becomes clear. Also if medically or scientifically it agrees then it must be true.

First of all, In Gen chapter 1 it says that God made things that have the seed in itself to reproduce after it's kind. This is confirmed by medical science that shows the seed has DNA and the Genes that will only do what it is programed to do.

You cannot take an apple seed and put it in a field of grapes and expect that seed to produce a grapes like the rest of the grape seed do.

The seed of man is no different from any other seed.

When Adam sinned his seed was affected and past down hat his seed became, which was a sinful nature.

Remember God saw everything He created and said “it was good”, He could not say this if He created Adam sinful.

[/B]THE NATURE OF A THING IS IN ITS SEED

(as a matter of fact Peter says that if you receive the Word of God you are a partaker of His nature)

After Adam sinned and passed seed it could only reproduce after its kind, (which is a sinful nature by virtue of the vail as described in 2Cr. 3:13-18).

The bible said when Adam died we all died. We were all in Adam by virtue of his seed.

We all understand that we come from our father and his father and so on. If my father had a defect in his GENES, (DNA) it will show up in my DNA and I or my children might have to deal with that defect.

Women who have breast cancer in their family will need to watch out for the defect to show up in themselves.

We have no problem with believing these things in the natural, but have stumbled over the Spiritual truths.

Going fast forward to Christ, we in Him are declared to be righteous, not because of what we have done, but because of what He has done and when we are in Him we are taken our of Adam, (the first man) and translated into Jesus, (the second man).

What Adam accomplished, (in the negative) we all are partakers of and in Jesus we are partakers of His accomplishments, that is redemption.

Don't think you can just ignore this and say you know better because it is not only bible, but is confirmed by medical or scientific truths.

[Ed J]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,10:09)

Quote this as been answered many times in different topics so I do it again; Adam his the one that sinned and so brings sin into his world (men's) and so DEAD physical dead that his ; Brother Pierre, We do NOT inherit the SINS of our FATHERS,  EZE 18:20 So How do we inherit the SINS of ADAM and not break scriptures? God Bless bro. Marlin

Hi Marlin,

The sinning nature is in our blood.
I thought I made this point clear to you. (perhaps not)
But Christ did not have Adam's blood (as we have previously discussed).

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

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Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,10:09) Quote this as been answered many times in different topics so I do it again; Adam his the one that sinned and so brings sin into his world (men's) and so DEAD physical dead that his ; Brother Pierre, We do NOT inherit the SINS of our FATHERS,  EZE 18:20 So How do we inherit the SINS of ADAM and not break scriptures? God Bless bro. Marlin Hi Marlin, The sinning nature is in our blood. I thought I made this point clear to you. (perhaps not) But Christ did not have Adam's blood (as we have previously discussed). God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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But Christ did not have Adam's blood (as we have previously discussed).

so you finaly understand Christ birth of a surrogate mother

[Marlin1]

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Hi Marlin, 1) That is the truth, regardless what one sees. 2) That is the truth, regardless what one sees. 3) Thread:      Is the “HolySpirit” & the “Spirit of Christ” the same?  (Link) 4) I only have “ONE GOD: THE FATHER”.      …you mean you have three gods? Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J

I see Brother Ed, that you have no understanding of the trinity doctrine.  I study doctrines of man and understand more then most on these doctrines.

The trinity doctrine believes in three separate persons that make up one God.  They claim just like you that these are only ONE GOD.  Three persons, makes three personalities, makes three gods, yet they can not see it.

Speaking of the Word, All things were created by Him and for Him.

The Word is either God or another god, your choice.  If it is God, then God became Flesh, if it is another god, then that god became flesh.
There is only two choices

And since you do not see the Word as GOD, you must see the Word as a god.
and in that case you have two gods and you can not see it.  

To pray in the Name of the Lord Jesus is to give Him glory and puts Him equal or above God.
Yet you can't see that.

I believe in one God and one God only,  The same God all the time, you could say God in three offices.
GOD the Father (over US), GOD the Son (with US), GOD the Holy Ghost (in US)
The same GOD in three offices.
That GOD was the Father over Israel, untouchable, could not even look upon.
That GOD was the Son of GOD in Jesus.  The people could handle GOD.
That GOD is the Holy Spirit in US, that have received a new heart and Spirit from GOD.

Two or Three will never line up with scripture. There is only ONE GOD and ONE SAVIOUR and HE is the GOD of the Universe.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

[Marlin1]

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The sinning nature is in our blood.

Brother Ed,

How is this nature in our blood?

Why is it not in Jesus, if Mary's DNA is in His Blood?

Until you can see this, you will never see the truth of the man Jesus.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2012,10:53)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 03 2012,05:35) Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,10:09) Quote this as been answered many times in different topics so I do it again; Adam his the one that sinned and so brings sin into his world (men's) and so DEAD physical dead that his ; Brother Pierre, We do NOT inherit the SINS of our FATHERS,  EZE 18:20 So How do we inherit the SINS of ADAM and not break scriptures? God Bless bro. Marlin Hi Marlin, The sinning nature is in our blood. I thought I made this point clear to you. (perhaps not) But Christ did not have Adam's blood (as we have previously discussed). God bless Ed J eddy Quote But Christ did not have Adam's blood (as we have previously discussed). so you finaly understand Christ birth of a surrogate mother

No Pierrey,

Science has surmised that blood in the fetus comes from the father.
Since the “HolySpirit” was Jesus Father, that means Jesus had
“God Blood” coursing through his veins. (See Acts 20:28)

“For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar
 to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood (of Jesus Christ)
 that maketh an atonement for the soul.” (Leviticus 17:11)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,11:00)

I see Brother Ed, that you have no understanding of the trinity doctrine.

Not true.

[Ed J]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,11:00)

There is only two choices And since you do not see the Word as GOD, you must see the Word as a god. God Bless bro. Marlin

Hi Marlin,

There is the third choice, that you apparently have missed.
“The Word” is the “HolySpirit” – GOD just as John 1:1 says.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 03 2012,11:05)

Quote The sinning nature is in our blood. Brother Ed, How is this nature in our blood? Why is it not in Jesus, if Mary's DNA is in His Blood? Until you can see this, you will never see the truth of the man Jesus. God Bless bro. Marlin

blood in the fetus comes from the father

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