The paradise trinity

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Colter.

You are speaking in tongues;snap out of it.
Make yourself a cup of tea.

wakeup.

John 14

New International Version (NIV)
Jesus Comforts His Disciples

“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. You know the way to the place where I am going.”

Colter

Colter.

You are quoting the bible?

wakeup.

Sure, why not? Even a broken clock is right once every hour. There are a lot of truths in it, you have cherry picked the Bible in the creation of your particular doctrine so I will pick whats true.

Colter

Colter.

I take the whole bible as truth;all of it,every last crump.

You pick and choose according to your own judgement.
The bible is not like a bowl of fruits you can pick to your taste.

You can not just take part of the body of Christ,and discard the rest.
This is awesome;You dont know what you are doing.

wakeup.

June 5, 2013 at 1:34 am#354079

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(1112.4) 101:6.8 The teachings of Jesus constituted the first Urantian religion which so fully embraced a harmonious co-ordination of knowledge, wisdom, faith, truth, and love as completely and simultaneously to provide temporal tranquillity, intellectual certainty, moral enlightenment, philosophic stability, ethical sensitivity, God-consciousness, and the positive assurance of personal survival. The faith of Jesus pointed the way to finality of human salvation, to the ultimate of mortal universe attainment, since it provided for:

(1112.5) 101:6.9 1. Salvation from material fetters in the personal realization of sonship with God, who is spirit.

(1112.6) 101:6.10 2. Salvation from intellectual bondage: man shall know the truth, and the truth shall set him free.

(1112.7) 101:6.11 3. Salvation from spiritual blindness, the human realization of the fraternity of mortal beings and the morontian awareness of the brotherhood of all universe creatures; the service-discovery of spiritual reality and the ministry-revelation of the goodness of spirit values.

(1113.1) 101:6.12 4. Salvation from incompleteness of self through the attainment of the spirit levels of the universe and through the eventual realization of the harmony of Havona and the perfection of Paradise.

(1113.2) 101:6.13 5. Salvation from self, deliverance from the limitations of self-consciousness through the attainment of the cosmic levels of the Supreme mind and by co-ordination with the attainments of all other self-conscious beings.

(1113.3) 101:6.14 6. Salvation from time, the achievement of an eternal life of unending progression in God-recognition and God-service.

(1113.4) 101:6.15 7. Salvation from the finite, the perfected oneness with Deity in and through the Supreme by which the creature attempts the transcendental discovery of the Ultimate on the postfinaliter levels of the absonite.

Colter

June 5, 2013 at 10:02 am#354080

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(1112.5) 101:6.9 1. Salvation from material fetters in the personal realization of sonship with God, who is spirit.

(1112.6) 101:6.10 2. Salvation from intellectual bondage: man shall know the truth, and the truth shall set him free.

(1113.3) 101:6.14 6. Salvation from time, the achievement of an eternal life of unending progression in God-recognition and God-service.

Colter

Colter.

YOU WILL SEE THEM BY THE FRUITS.
A BAD TREE WILL NOT BRING FORTH GOOD FRUITS.

GOD IS THE TREE AND JESUS IS **THE BRANCH**,AND THE TRUE FOLLOWERS ARE THE BRANCHES ATTACHED TO THE TREE.

THE BRANCHES THAT ARE NOT ATTACHED TO THE TREE. WILL WITHER AND DIE.

YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO SEPERATE YOURSELF FROM THE WORD OF GOD,AND ATTACHED YOURSELF TO SOME OTHER WORD; A FOREIGN WORD OF SOME STRANGER YOU HAVE MET IN YOUR JOURNEY,AND HAS TAKEN YOU INTO A STRANGE PLACE. YOU SEEM TO LIKE THAT PLACE UNTILL YOU SEE WHAT DWELLETH IN THAT PLACE. ONLY THEN WILL YOU REALISE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN TAKEN FOR A RIDE,WHEN YOU SEE ALL THE BRANCHES THERE WITHER AND DRY UP AND DIE.

wakeup.

June 5, 2013 at 10:34 am#354081

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(1732.2) 155:6.9 The religions of authority can only divide men and set them in conscientious array against each other; the religion of the spirit will progressively draw men together and cause them to become understandingly sympathetic with one another. The religions of authority require of men uniformity in belief, but this is impossible of realization in the present state of the world. The religion of the spirit requires only unity of experience — uniformity of destiny — making full allowance for diversity of belief. The religion of the spirit requires only uniformity of insight, not uniformity of viewpoint and outlook. The religion of the spirit does not demand uniformity of intellectual views, only unity of spirit feeling. The religions of authority crystallize into lifeless creeds; the religion of the spirit grows into the increasing joy and liberty of ennobling deeds of loving service and merciful ministration.

Colter

June 5, 2013 at 11:16 am#354082

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Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,21:34)

Colter

Cotler.

I agree;but that is religion.
The true followers of Christ are one in spirit.

wakeup.

June 5, 2013 at 1:20 pm#354083

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Quote (Wakeup @ June 05 2013,22:16)

Quote (Colter @ June 05 2013,21:34)

Colter

Cotler.

I agree;but that is religion.
The true followers of Christ are one in spirit.

wakeup.

You are in a religion, the relgion of Bible worship.

(1893.3) 173:3.3 Jesus did not despise the Pharisees and Sadducees personally. It was their systems of teaching and practice which he sought to discredit. He was hostile to no man, but here was occurring the inevitable clash between a new and living religion of the spirit and the older religion of ceremony, tradition, and authority.

Colter

June 5, 2013 at 1:51 pm#354084

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Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,00:20)

You are in a religion, the relgion of Bible worship.

Colter

Hi Colter,

The “UB” does got some good stuff in it; but
“The Bible” is authoritative, while the “UB” isn't.
The creature cannot know more than the creator.
The bible wasn't dispensed by Angels, but by YHVH.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

June 5, 2013 at 2:14 pm#354085

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Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,00:51)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,00:20)

You are in a religion, the relgion of Bible worship.

Colter

Hi Colter,

The “UB” does got some good stuff in it; but
“The Bible” is authoritative, while the “UB” isn't.
The creature cannot know more than the creator.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

The problem Ed, is that you were born into a false teaching that God wrote the Bible when the fact is the Bible does not even claim that God wrote the Bible. The Bible just starts talking from the vantage point of Babylon and gets a bunch of stuff wrong.

They have impressed upon you the tyranny that to doubt the bible is a weakness of your faith punishable by loss of salvation or excommunication (it used to be torture and death).

And because you have used this very same baseless foundation in your ministry you can't be honest about any doubts.

And you have rightly used the word “authority” because religion, as a controlling institution, first establishes the writings of their own former priest class as the authority as the foundation for control of the flock. Then the flock does the same thing.

Jesus freed man from this dubious authority and for that religion even tried to kill him. And if the world hated Jesus then they will hate those of us who have been liberated from the petrified opinions of another age.

June 5, 2013 at 2:23 pm#354086

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Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,00:51)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,00:20)

You are in a religion, the relgion of Bible worship.

Colter

Hi Colter,

The “UB” does got some good stuff in it; but
“The Bible” is authoritative, while the “UB” isn't.
The creature cannot know more than the creator.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

LOL! reincarnation has been proven? Were you a gullible idiot in your last life as well?

The wrath of God in the false Messianic teachings was that the Messiah would bring the wrath. Israel simply fell 70 years latter as it had fallen before because it's just a nation like any other. Today Israel is a museum to a broken promise sustained by the sympathy of Christian nations.

Jesus resurrected himself in the form that man will have in heaven.

Reincarnation is a false theory.

Colter

June 5, 2013 at 2:27 pm#354087

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Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,01:23)

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,00:51)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,00:20)

You are in a religion, the relgion of Bible worship.

Colter

Hi Colter,

The “UB” does got some good stuff in it; but
“The Bible” is authoritative, while the “UB” isn't.
The creature cannot know more than the creator.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

LOL! reincarnation has been proven? Were you a gullible idiot in your last life as well?

Jesus resurrected himself in the form that man will have in heaven.

Reincarnation is a false theory.

Colter

OOps, Sorry Ed, was posting in your forum but put it here in the wrong place. That was for that reincarnation guy.

Colter

June 5, 2013 at 2:31 pm#354088

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Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,01:14)

The problem Ed, is that you were born into a false teaching that God wrote the Bible when the fact is the Bible does not even claim that God wrote the Bible.

Hi Colter, FALSE!

“The Lord gave the word: and great was the company of those that published it.” (Psalms 68:11)

Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them (in the AKJV Bible) from this generation for ever.
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue(that is English) will he speak to this people.

1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].

The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!
Did you ever read “The Bible” (AKJV Bible) all the way through?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

June 5, 2013 at 2:37 pm#354089

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Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,01:23)

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,00:51)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,00:20)

You are in a religion, the relgion of Bible worship.

Colter

Hi Colter,

The “UB” does got some good stuff in it; but
“The Bible” is authoritative, while the “UB” isn't.
The creature cannot know more than the creator.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

LOL! reincarnation has been proven? Were you a gullible idiot in your last life as well?

Jesus resurrected himself in the form that man will have in heaven.

Reincarnation is a false theory.

Colter

Hi Colter,

Who said anything about reincarnation? Are you
now confusing reincarnation with resurrection?
Like YOU also confused Jealousy with envy?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

June 5, 2013 at 2:38 pm#354090

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Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,01:27)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,01:23)

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,00:51)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,00:20)

You are in a religion, the relgion of Bible worship.

Colter

Hi Colter,

The “UB” does got some good stuff in it; but
“The Bible” is authoritative, while the “UB” isn't.
The creature cannot know more than the creator.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

LOL! reincarnation has been proven? Were you a gullible idiot in your last life as well?

Jesus resurrected himself in the form that man will have in heaven.

Reincarnation is a false theory.

Colter

OOps, Sorry Ed, was posting in your forum but put it here in the wrong place. That was for that reincarnation guy.

Colter

You mean Brad?

June 5, 2013 at 4:04 pm#354091

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Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,01:31)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,01:14)

The problem Ed, is that you were born into a false teaching that God wrote the Bible when the fact is the Bible does not even claim that God wrote the Bible.

Hi Colter, FALSE!

“The Lord gave the word: and great was the company of those that published it.” (Psalms 68:11)

1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].

The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!
Did you ever read “The Bible” (AKJV Bible) all the way through?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Still no claim of divine authorship, of the books that talk about the Word, the living Word, God is the Word, not nessasarily the books about the living Word of God.

(1901.6) 174:4.6 When no more questions were forthcoming, and as the noon hour was near, Jesus did not resume his teaching but was content merely to ask the Pharisees and their associates a question. Said Jesus: “Since you ask no more questions, I would like to ask you one. What do you think of the Deliverer? That is, whose son is he?” After a brief pause one of the scribes answered, “The Messiah is the son of David.” And since Jesus knew that there had been much debate, even among his own disciples, as to whether or not he was the son of David, he asked this further question: “If the Deliverer is indeed the son of David, how is it that, in the Psalm which you accredit to David, he himself, speaking in the spirit, says, ‘The Lord said to my lord, sit on my right hand until I make your enemies the footstool of your feet.’ If David calls him Lord, how then can he be his son?” Although the rulers, the scribes, and the chief priests made no reply to this question, they likewise refrained from asking him any more questions in an effort to entangle him. They never answered this question which Jesus put to them, but after the Master’s death they attempted to escape the difficulty by changing the interpretation of this Psalm so as to make it refer to Abraham instead of the Messiah. Others sought to escape the dilemma by disallowing that David was the author of this so-called Messianic Psalm.

Colter

June 5, 2013 at 4:22 pm#354092

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Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,03:04)

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,01:31)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,01:14)

The problem Ed, is that you were born into a false teaching that God wrote the Bible when the fact is the Bible does not even claim that God wrote the Bible.

Hi Colter, FALSE!

“The Lord gave the word: and great was the company of those that published it.” (Psalms 68:11)

1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].

The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!
Did you ever read “The Bible” (AKJV Bible) all the way through?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Still no claim of divine authorship, of the books that talk about the Word, the living Word, God is the Word, not nessasarily the books about the living Word of God.

Colter

Even today; No man knows the Son,and no man knows the Father,— But *he* whom the son will reveal him.

I truly believe those words are true.

wakeup.

June 5, 2013 at 4:44 pm#354093

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Today I know the Father and the Son through The Word, the Living Word of God.

(1692.5) 151:3.6 The parable provides for a simultaneous appeal to vastly different levels of mind and spirit. The parable stimulates the imagination, challenges the discrimination, and provokes critical thinking; it promotes sympathy without arousing antagonism.

(1692.6) 151:3.7 The parable proceeds from the things which are known to the discernment of the unknown. The parable utilizes the material and natural as a means of introducing the spiritual and the supermaterial.

(1692.7) 151:3.8 Parables favor the making of impartial moral decisions. The parable evades much prejudice and puts new truth gracefully into the mind and does all this with the arousal of a minimum of the self-defense of personal resentment.

(1692.8) 151:3.9 To reject the truth contained in parabolical analogy requires conscious intellectual action which is directly in contempt of one’s honest judgment and fair decision. The parable conduces to the forcing of thought through the sense of hearing.

(1692.9) 151:3.10 The use of the parable form of teaching enables the teacher to present new and even startling truths while at the same time he largely avoids all controversy and outward clashing with tradition and established authority.

(1693.1) 151:3.11 The parable also possesses the advantage of stimulating the memory of the truth taught when the same familiar scenes are subsequently encountered.

(1693.2) 151:3.12 In this way Jesus sought to acquaint his followers with many of the reasons underlying his practice of increasingly using parables in his public teaching.

Colter

June 5, 2013 at 5:08 pm#354094

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Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,03:04)

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,01:31)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,01:14)

The problem Ed, is that you were born into a false teaching that God wrote the Bible when the fact is the Bible does not even claim that God wrote the Bible.

Hi Colter, FALSE!

“The Lord gave the word: and great was the company of those that published it.” (Psalms 68:11)

1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].

The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!
Did you ever read “The Bible” (AKJV Bible) all the way through?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Still no claim of divine authorship, of the books that talk about the Word, the living Word, God is the Word, not nessasarily the books about the living Word of God.

Colter

Hi Colter,

Is your Urania Book fetish preventing you from accepting the divine Authorship the Bible?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

June 5, 2013 at 5:17 pm#354095

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Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,04:08)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,03:04)

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,01:31)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,01:14)

The problem Ed, is that you were born into a false teaching that God wrote the Bible when the fact is the Bible does not even claim that God wrote the Bible.

Hi Colter, FALSE!

“The Lord gave the word: and great was the company of those that published it.” (Psalms 68:11)

1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].

The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!
Did you ever read “The Bible” (AKJV Bible) all the way through?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Still no claim of divine authorship, of the books that talk about the Word, the living Word, God is the Word, not nessasarily the books about the living Word of God.

Colter

Hi Colter,

Is your Urania Book fetish preventing you from accepting the divine Authorship the Bible?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

The multiple, undisclosed authors of the Bible don't claim divinity, they claim God is The Word (same thing the UB claims).

Is the theory of inerrancy, devised by the Roman Catholic Church, clouding your judgment and preventing you from expressing the doubts that I know you have entertained?

Or will you continue this charade for the little ones looking on?

Colter

June 5, 2013 at 5:49 pm#354096

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Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,04:17)

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,04:08)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,03:04)

Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2013,01:31)

Quote (Colter @ June 06 2013,01:14)

The problem Ed, is that you were born into a false teaching that God wrote the Bible when the fact is the Bible does not even claim that God wrote the Bible.

Hi Colter, FALSE!

“The Lord gave the word: and great was the company of those that published it.” (Psalms 68:11)

1Cor.14:27 (AKJV) If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two(Hebrew, Aramaic),
or at the most by three(Greek), and that by course; [and let one (“AKJV Bible”) translate].

The “AKJV Bible” we have today was no accident, it's exactly the way GOD wanted it!
Did you ever read “The Bible” (AKJV Bible) all the way through?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Still no claim of divine authorship, of the books that talk about the Word, the living Word, God is the Word, not nessasarily the books about the living Word of God.

Colter

Hi Colter,

Is your Urania Book fetish preventing you from accepting the divine Authorship the Bible?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

The multiple, undisclosed authors of the Bible don't claim divinity, they claim God is The Word (same thing the UB claims).

Is the theory of inerrancy, devised by the Roman Catholic Church, clouding your judgment and preventing you from expressing the doubts that I know you have entertained?

Or will you continue this charade for the little ones looking on?

Colter

Hi Colter,

“The Word” was with GOD, and “The Word” was GOD; now “The Word” is in “The Bible” **AND** in the hearts of believers!

“The LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it
plain upon tables (IN A BOOK), that he may run that readeth it.” (Hab 2:2)
“The LORD JEHOVAH” gave The Word: and great was the company of those that published it.” (Psalms 68:11)

Seems YOU don't know “The Word” very well Colter.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

June 5, 2013 at 6:25 pm#354097