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If you have Trinity on the brain, then you can see Trinities everywhere you look.
t8,
but for sure the above applies to ALL THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE TRINTIY DOCTRINE,
SINCE EVEN IF IT IS EVIDENTLY CLEAR THAT GOD IS A TRIUNE SPIRIT!But seriously let’s look at some verses that mention what you would argue as the Trinity:
1 Corinthians 12:4-6 mentions the Spirit, Lord, and God;2 Corinthians 13:14 lists Christ, God, and the Holy Ghost [Spirit];Galatians 4:4-6 lists God, Son, and Spirit of his Son;Ephesians 4:4-6 lists Spirit, Lord and, God; &1 Peter 1:2 lists God, Spirit, and Jesus Christ.
Notice the above scriptures. Can you see the problem?
God is already defined and is talking about the Father.Now you are convinced that there is a PROBLEM right?
But since you are so convinced about WHAT FOR YOU IS A PROBLEM,
What is the actual PROBLEM, that you never took the least interest to explain your understanding related to:GOD, and FATHER since:
JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY TRUE
GOD and FATHER in relation to us HUMANS!
HOW CAN GOD ALMIGHTY A SPIRIT WITHOUT FLESH AND SEX, CAN BE A FATHER OF FLESH AND SEXUAL REPRODUCTION CREATURES?
Now in the above , you posted scriptures which according to you are not a reference to the TRINITY DOCTRINE, But from the other hand one in particular 1 Corinthians 12:4-6 confirms it AND IT IS EVIDENTLY CLEAR!
READ: 6 And there are diversities of operations, but the same God,
SO THE OPERATION/FUNCTION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD
THE OPERATION/FUNCTION OF ! “THE WORD” THE SON JESUS IS GOD
THE OPERATION/ FUNCTION OF THE FATHER IS GOD!SO THEY ARE THREE, OPERATIONS/FUNCTIONS, BUT ONE GOD!
NOW SHOW ME YOUR UNDERSTANDING!
Peace and love in Jesus
CharlesHi C,
This is your trinity proof?
1Cor 12.4-6
Now there are diversities of gifts from the same Spirit.
And there are differences of administration but the same Lord.
And there are diversities of operations but it is the same God Which worketh all in all.
How does that prove what you imagine?
Those baptised into in Christ Jesus are of God and given of the Holy Spirit.
That one Holy Spirit gives them spiritual unity with the Father and the Son.
This is your trinity proof?
How does that prove what you imagine?Nick,
As usual, You posted scriptures and no definition related to it,
SIMPLY YOUR OPINION!
Now define what you posted hereunder or else post NOTHING:
4 Now there are diversities of graces, but the same Spirit;
WHAT ARE, AND TO WHOM BELONG THE DIVERSITIES OF GRACES, WHICH CONFIRM
THE SAME SPIRIT?5And there are diversities of ministries, but the same Lord;
WHAT ARE, AND TO WHOM BELONG THE DIVERSITIES OF MINISTRIES WHICH CONFIRM
THE LORD?6And there are diversities of operations, but the same God, who worketh all in all.
WHAT ARE , AND TO WHOM BELONG THE DIVERSITIES OF OPERATIONS, WHICH CONFIRM
THE SAME GOD?Now I expect from you the TRUTH !!!!!
Not your opinion!
Peace and love in Jesus.
Charles
Hi C,
The works of God are done by the Spirit which He graciously shares with the baptised and anointed brothers of Jesus Christ.
They are given graces, ministries and operations to do in the name of Jesus Christ.
Everything BELONGS to HIM and all glory is His.
Hi C,
The ministries and gifts are specified in 1 Cor 12 and the more important fruits of the Spirit in gal5.
Of course there is no trinity involved.
That is another god.
topic/testing-the-trinity
The works of God are done by the Spirit which He graciously shares with the baptised and anointed brothers of Jesus Christ.
They are given graces, ministries and operations to do in the name of Jesus Christ.
Everything BELONGS to HIM and all glory is His.Nick,
WITH EVERY RESPECT, The above is a complete, CONFUSION!
IN RELATION TO THE SCRIPTURES YOU YOURSELF POSTED TO ANNUL THE TRINITY WITH!NOW THE RELATED SCRIPTURES YOU POSTED ARE CLEAR!!! READ JUST THE FIRST ONE:
4 Now there are diversities of graces, but the same Spirit;
ACCORDING TO THE ABOVE , ONLY ONE PARTICULAR SAME SPIRIT,
SUPPLIES THE DIVERSITIES OFGRACES!
SCRIPTURALLY ONLY ONE SPIRIT SOURCE FURNISHES GRACES, CONFIRMED IN:
John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses;
GRACE and TRUTH BY
JESUS CHRIST.
NOTICE TWO TITLES referring to other TWO TITLES RESPECTIVELY!
GRACES: RELATED TO JESUS: “THE WORD” THE BLESSED TRINITY, BUT IN THIS CASE , HE LOWERED HIMSELF, ONLY A FLESH BODY, A SHELL, NOTHING ELSE! LIKE ALL HIS BRETHREN!
TRUTH: RELATED TO CHRIST: THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE ENERGY AND POWER OF GOD BY WHICH ACTUALLY THE FATHER SPOKE FROM WITHIN, AND THROUGH THE MOUTH OF JESUS “THE WORD” THE SHELL! THE FLESH SUBSTANCE!
NOW REFLECT ON THE FOLLOWING VERSE, HERUNDER
18No man hath seen God at any time:
THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON
WHO IS IN THE BOSOM of the Father, he has declared him.
WHY WAS IT IMORTANT FOR JOHN TO SPCIFICALLY AND EMPHATICALLY DECLARE JESUS AS :
THE BEGOTTEN SON, IN THIS VERSE AND NOT AS:
JESUS CHRIST LIKE HE DID IN VERSE 17?WHY JOHN USED THE PRESENT TENSE AND SAID :WHO IS ….. INSTEAD OF WHO WAS…..SINCE JESUS WAS ON EARTH IN THAT MOMENT IN TIME?
WHAT KIND OF SPIRIT JESUS WAS, SINCE HE WAS BOTH IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER AND ON EARTH ??
DEFINITELY NOT YET CHRIST, SINCE HE WAS NOT YET CRUCIFIED! NO?
SO, THE FACT THAT HE CALLED HIM: THE BEGOTTEN SON, IS A CLEAR REFERENCE ONLY TO
THE SPIRIT OF THE SON, “ THE WORD” THE FLESH BODY,THE FACT THAT JOHN IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS PARTICULAR PARAGRAPH, USED THE TERM:
THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, SO IT WAS NO LONGER A SPIRIT SPOKEN WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF THE FATHER! BUT BOTH:WITHIN THE FATHER IN HEAVEN, AND ON EARTH AS FLESH!
SO WE HAVE NO DOUBT THAT GRACES BELONG TO JUST
THE SPIRIT OF THE SON, JESUS, “THE WORD” THE FLESH BODY ONLY!IS THERE MORE VERIFICATION? AND HOW, A STUNNING PROOF !
IN THE NEXT POST
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi C,
I realise that you must be alarmed as your own shoddy fabrications start toppling.
But it had to happen.
It is all the fruit of your own mind and we feed on what is truth.
The works of God are done by the Spirit which He graciously shares with the baptised and anointed brothers of Jesus Christ.
They are given graces, ministries and operations to do in the name of Jesus Christ.
Everything BELONGS to HIM and all glory is His.Nick,
MORE VERIFICATIONS REGARDING THE SPIRIT OF THE SON,
SO THE SPIRIT OF THE SON
LEFT THE FATHER, CREATED ALL, ENDED HIS WORK , AND CREATED MARY, AS HER SOUL, LEFT MARY, HIS MOTHER,AND ENTERED INTO THIS WORLD,AS A SHELL OF FLESH, THROUGH HIS CONCEPTION BY THE PROCESS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS’SOUL, THE CHRIST TO BE!AND WITHIN HIM THE LORD GOD THE FATHER INDIRECTLY!
THE GODHEAD IN FLESH! FIRST IN THE PROCESS OF CREATION, THEN AS MAN ON EARTH! ONLY POSSIBLE THROUGH THE TRINITY FUNCTION,
SO THE SPIRIT OF THE SON,”THE WORD” IS THE ONLY SPIRIT WHO BECAME A SHELL, THROUGH THE ACTUAL PROCESS OF THE CREATION OF THE WORLD FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD, AND ALSO STILL WITHIN CREATION SINCE ALL IN HIM, ALL BY HIM, AND ALL FOR HIM, THE LAMB OF GOD SLAIN FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD; REV13:8 and in
John6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that which endureth unto life everlasting, which THE SON OF MAN will give you. A REFERENCE TO THE FLESH BODYFor him has God, THE FATHER SEALED
THE SPIRIT OF THE SON
PURPOSELY IN CREATION TO SUSTAIN ITS ENTIRE EXISTENCE AND ETERNAL LIFE PROCESS!
So Nick the particular spirit which supplies GRACES IS
THE SPIRIT OF THE SON in full power OF THE TRINITY as“THE WORD” and according to John :
“THE WORD” WAS GOD!
Now that settled the first VERSE WHICH YOU POSTED IN ORDER TO ANNUL THE TRINITY DOCTRINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUT I’M AFARAID WITH JUST THAT VERSE ONLY IT IS A CLEAR REFERENCE TO GOD HIMSELF IN THE OPERATION OF
“THE WORD” GOD THE SON, THE SPIRIT OF THE SON, JESUS
ONE MORE TO GO
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
The works of God are done by the Spirit which He graciously shares with the baptised and anointed brothers of Jesus Christ.
They are given graces, ministries and operations to do in the name of Jesus Christ.
Everything BELONGS to HIM and all glory is His.Nick,
From the previous posts
ONLY JESUS, THE SPIRIT OF THE SON, AS SUCH FURNISHES GRACES DUE TO THE FACT THAT ONLY HE IS IN NATURE SLAIN FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD LOCKED IN THE PROCESS OF CREATION!
LOCKED WITHIN OUR HEART!
GOD’S KINGDOM declared by Jesus Himself!
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say: Behold here, or behold there. For lo,
THE KINGDOM IS WITHIN YOU
NOW UNFORTUNATELY A HEADACHE FOR YOU!I’M AFRAID!
JESUS, THE SPIRIT OF THE SON, “THE WORD” THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CREATION WAS THE SOURCE OF
THE GENEALOGY OF MARY, AND IN THE PROCESS OF HER CREATION HE BECAME MARY’S SOUL IN ORDER TO CREATE HER, AS HIS MOTHER,DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE HAD TO ACQUIRE ALL FLESH SUBSTANCES FROM HER.
THEREFORE MARY’S BODY WAS THE ENTIRE CREATION , CONFIRMED BY MARY IN
Luke 1:48 Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforthALL GENERATIONS SHALL CALL ME BLESSED.
SO ARE YOU READY TO ACCEPT THAT
THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY IS FULL OF GRACE,FROM HER CONCEPTION SINCE “THE WORD” THE SPIRIT OF THE SON, JESUS WAS HER SOUL AND ALSO THROUGH HIM SHE IS THE SUPPLIER OF ALL GRACES WHICH SHE RECEIVES CONTINUOUSLY THROUGH HIM?
ARE YOU READY TO ACCEPT THEREFORE,
THAT MARY, FROM HER SOUL POINT OF VIEW, SINCE IT IS !THE SPIRIT OF THE SON, JESUS, “THE WORD” IS IN ACTUAL FACT THE GENUINE SOURCE OF GOD’S KINGDOM, THE FACT THAT JESUS FROM THE CROSS DECLARED HER THE
SPIRITUALMOTHER OF THE CHURCH
THE CHURCH AFTER ALL SINCE ALL GENERATIONS CALL HER BLESSED
THE BRIDE TO BE
WHOM THE CHRIST IS THE HEAD THROUGH HER!
THE FACT THAT
THE HEAD OF THE WOMAN IS THE MAN
OR MORE ACCURATE
THE SOUL OF MARY IS JESUS?
NICK I APOLOGIZE IF THE TRUTH HURTS!
BUT JESUS THE TRUTH NOT JUST HURT HIMSELF TO ESTABLISH THE TRUTH
BUT DIED AND POURED HIS ENTIRE MOST HOLY DIVINE BLOOD ONTO THIS FILTHY PLANET
TO PURIFY ITS ENTIRE PROCESS FOR OUR SAKE!
NOW FOR THE SAKE OF THE TRINITY DOCTRINE ARE YOU READY TO ALLOW ME TO CLARIFY THE OTHER TWO VERSES WHICH YOU YOURSELF POSTED WITH A MERE HOPE TO ANNUL
THE TRINITY DOCTRINE?
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi C,
Why should we argue with someone so deceived and so self assured?
Your foundations are your own ideas dressed up with the odd scripture.
Why should we argue with someone so deceived and so self assured?
Your foundations are your own ideas dressed up with the odd scripture.
Nick,
SO I TAKE IT THAT YOU BAILED OUT, STILL:
Do not take WHAT’S HEREUNDER as an act of any ANTAGONISM, but my interest is to reveal the truth, and the truth hurts!
Matthew 18: 15 But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother.
16And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand.
17And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.
I brought to you ANDREW, so my job is to go to the church: MARY!
THEN IF YOU WILL NOT HEAR MARY ?????????????????????
SO:
ONCE UPON A TIME, THERE WAS A FOX, HEROD, SATANA
HE NOTICED A CLUSTER OF GRAPES I AM THE VINE, YOU ARE THE BRANCHES
HE SAID WELL IT IS A BIT HIGH FOR ME, BUT WHY SHOULDN’T I HAVE A GO AND TRY TO EAT OF THE FRUIT THE CHURCH
SO HE JUMPED ONE
HE JUMPED TWO
HE JUMPED THREE
THEN AS A BLIND, LIAR, AND A DECEIVER, HE SAID :
WELL, AFTER ALL THE FRUIT IS STILL SOUR, SATANA ON THE CROSS I WILL HAVE A GO AT A LATER STAGE WHEN THE FRUIT IS RIPE!
TO DAY THE FRUIT IS NEARLY THERE, THE FOX WOULD SURELY COME AGAIN, THE FRUIT IS STILL UP TO HIGH FOR THE FOX,
NOW, SINCE HE IS EVEN MORE BLIND, MORE A LIAR AND MORE A DECEIVER IN YOUR OPINION, SINCE SCRIPTURALLY DOES NOT EXIST AS SUCH, ONLY A PREDICTION, FOR ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE,
WHAT WOULD EVENTUALLY HAPPEN TO THE FOX???
DO NOT ANSWER, OTHERWISE YOU WOULD BE LIKE
SPITTING IN THE SKY AND IT SURELY END IN YOUR FACE!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Your speciality is in fanciful tales.
Stick to them.
Nick,
YES, BUT THE MOST COMMON EXPRESSION WHICH YOU USE IS
FANCIFUL ……
SO MYSELF, SINCE IT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING WAY, OF SCRIPTURES I SENT YOU A DIRECT PERSONAL MESSAGE WITH THE HOPE THAT YOU DISCOVER YOURSELF AND ALSO DISCOVER THE TRUTH!
BUT I’M AFRAID YOU STILL DIDN’T GET THE MESSAGE!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi C,
Yes the trinity has failed to reach the divine standard for acceptibility.
It is unscriptural.
Thus it joins the pile of discarded theories offensive to God.
You’re on the wrong side of the fence t8 –
you agree with Muslims, Jews, Mormons, JW’s, and the complete host of other cults who misinterpret Scripture..
but disagree with Spirit-filled believers who have the testimony and revelation of Jesus Christ burning in their hearts.
DavidL,
A man that lives by the Spirit does not live in denial. Denial is a response of the flesh to protect the mind that cannot bear the truth. The Spirit knows that Scripture cannot be broken and any teaching that is broken is not of God. The teaching that Jesus is the one true God is broken as God is our Father and not our Brother.
Hi davidl,
If the testimony of God is burning in your heart
why do you teach the unscriptural ideas of men?
Kerwin
A man that lives by the Spirit does not live in denial. Denial is a response of the flesh to protect the mind that cannot bear the truth. The Spirit knows that Scripture cannot be broken and any teaching that is broken is not of God. The teaching that Jesus is the one true God is broken as God is our Father and not our Brother.
So your own misguided logic gives you an excuse not to trust the Spirit…and thus protects (or hides) your mind from the truth you cannot bear to face…?!
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