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Nick……..where did Jesus say you are saved BY GRACE and that (NOT) of Yourselves. Where did Jesus say whosoever is under the Law is under a curse. I don't know brother there was a lot of things said by Paul into the mysteries of GOD that Jesus never said. But i do agree that both Gospels were about salvation and Paul did not go against Jesus ' teachings. He even said He preached Christ and Him crucified.
To me Chosenone was just talking about the commissions , were not the same.
peace and love…………………….gene
Nick………I am more worried about my unfortunate brother , YOU, then as you say “unfortunate” sister.
love and peace to you……………………gene
GB,
God saves.
But under heaven there is only one name by which we can be savedActs 4:12
“And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”Preach Lord Jesus and him crucified.
False salvation messages are death to those who receive them.Abhor universalism
Hi,
Acts 13:26
“Brothers, children of Abraham, and you God-fearing Gentiles, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent.Nick……..But we have (NOT) received the Spirit of FEAR but of POWER and a SOUND MIND. ” for nothing is perfected in FEAR” “GOD is Love” and “LOVE CASTS OUT FEAR” and “He who perfected in Fear is not made perfect in LOVE for fear has (TORMENT)” I guess we truly see the scriptures differently. And I thought it says that “GOD who is the savior of ALL men”. Again you are placing Jesus higher then GOD who sent Him. “He who believes in me, does (NOT) believe in Me but Him who sent Me”. If you truly believed in Christ you would worship GOD the FATHER as Jesus did, not try to replace the FATHER with Jesus as all these false churches do. IMO
love and peace………………..gene
Nick……….your the fearful one remember , not me I love the Father and i see myself like a little baby bird who Looks intently at the Father for life, “open wide your mouth and i shall fill it”. The Father is my Life and no one else is. I look to no one else as my life but the FATHER He is my (ONLY) GOD, there is none other. You can look to whom ever you want to, that up to you. I as well as my brother Jesus look to our Heavenly Father for all things, I see my self as beside my Brother not under him or over Him but beside Him, I pray beside Him to one FATHER of us both.
love and peace to you and yours……………………..gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 19 2009,16:09) Nick……..where did Jesus say you are saved BY GRACE and that (NOT) of Yourselves. Where did Jesus say whosoever is under the Law is under a curse. I don't know brother there was a lot of things said by Paul into the mysteries of GOD that Jesus never said. But i do agree that both Gospels were about salvation and Paul did not go against Jesus ' teachings. He even said He preached Christ and Him crucified. To me Chosenone was just talking about the commissions , were not the same.
peace and love…………………….gene
Hi Gene:Jesus was sent to be the propitiation for the sins of the Jews and for all nations. He was sent by God the Father with that intent. All of us both Jew and gentile are saved by “faith” so that it might be by grace. By the “works of the law” shall no man be saved.
942767…………My point was to Nick, Jesus never said that (Paul) Did , i know it the truth i and not say it is not true, I think you misunderstood my point.
peace…………………gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 20 2009,10:05) 942767…………My point was to Nick, Jesus never said that (Paul) Did , i know it the truth i and not say it is not true, I think you misunderstood my point. peace…………………gene
Hi Gene:It is not a different gospel. The gospel is fulfilled in Jesus
The scriptures speak of two gospels. Jesus message to Israel was “the gospel of the kingdom”. It taught obedience to the “law”, salvation by 'works'. Pauls epistles teach “the gospel of Grace”, salvation by the “Grace of God”, by God alone.
CO,
No you forget Paul was a servant of Christ.
He told us no longer lived but Christ lived in him.
Only one gospel and no division in the body of Christ.Quote (942767 @ Jan. 20 2009,10:49) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 20 2009,10:05) 942767…………My point was to Nick, Jesus never said that (Paul) Did , i know it the truth i and not say it is not true, I think you misunderstood my point. peace…………………gene
Hi Gene:It is not a different gospel. The gospel is fulfilled in Jesus
942767……..The gospel is about the Kingdom of GOD not about Jesus it is about GOD the FATHERS KINGDOM. Jesus was the messenger sent by God to proclaim the KINGDOM OF GOD and He preached ti also. Most today preach Jesus and Push GOD the Father completely out of the Picture something Jesus never did. He was constantly speaking about the Father But Most today Hardly even mention the Fathers Name. They Have turned Jesus into the Father and are committing IDOLATRY, and don't even know it. 94 if your are going to be a Bishop , never stop praising the Father, be the Same way Jesus was always Glorifying the FATHER , saying (I) Jesus have Glorified YOU (the FATHER) on the earth. Remember GOD Said you shall have (NO) other GOD”S besides me, People today have replaced the FATHER with Jesus , Something Jesus never did. This is exactly what the trinity does it creates another GOD, we must make sure we are not doing that. Remember 94, there is only ONE TRUE GOD, and one moderator between Him and us (THE MAN) Jesus the anointed.love and peace to you and yours……………..gene
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