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DavidL,
Jesus was sent by God and spiritually he came from God. Jesus often speaks of the spiritual nature and not of the soulish nature, or the physical nature.
Andrew,
The Lord of my country is President Obama. The only thing I see is his image, just I have seen Jesus’ image. He is hidden from me, just as Jesus is.
Jesus is in a far country as this time and we just await his return.
If God wanted to send us news clips that had his image in them then we would be sent those news clips.
God uses angels as messengers even though he does not need them. He uses humans to preach the gospel and yet he has no need of them. I am certainly not going to tell him that there is no need for a King or a mediator between him and us, especially since Scripture already addresses that point in Judges and 1 Samuel. The mediator aspect is also addressed in Exodus 20 and perhaps 21.
It is simple, Jesus calls the Father his God and I choose to believe what he says. That believe is in competition with the claim he is God so I do not believe that claim.
Hi Davidl,
Yes in Jesus, since his anointing as Christ, you have the Father.
We can have communion with BOTH Father and Son in the one Spirit.
We can have communion with BOTH Father and Son in the one Spirit.
Wow – and you deny the tri-unity..??
Hi T8,
To clarify the spirit given to men and animals belongs to God and that of men returns to Him[eccl]
But men do not share in the Holy Spirit of God unless God chooses to do so.Agreed.
Jesus came from God
He is not the Father – but is ONE with the FatherI agree with you for once.
Jesus is of God and God is the Father. That is why Jesus is called the Son OF God.
Jesus is not his own Father right.
Note the term son of God. Yes he is the son of the Father, but that is the same as saying “Son of God”.
Wow – and you deny the tri-unity..??
Unity with God is given to the son, and all the sons of God. The son and the sons are not God, but are one with him in spirit.
God is that spirit and he has given us his spirit. This is where we are all connected. God in us.
Turning this oneness into some kind of single being doctrine is based on the vain imaginations of some men and philosophers.
Oneness has nothing to do with a Triune God. It is about those who are not God, being one with the one true God, and that oneness is had, not in physical terms or soulish terms, but in spirit.
The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children.
T8…..Very good post, absolutely true, Thats the whole thing in a nut shell. “THAT GOD MAYBE IN “ALL” AND THROUGH “ALL”. ALL THOSE WHO ARE BEING LEAD BY, THE SPIRIT OF GOD “ARE” THE SONS OF THE LIVING GOD, FOR HIS SEED ABIDES “IN” THEM. If only all could understand that. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours. …………….gene
Do you not yet know the Father and the Son
in the One Holy Spirit?
Yes –
Do you not yet know this is a “unity”…?
You speak of the Son and the Father and the Holy Spirit – three separate entities..
You even speak of them in close terms together..
What you here describe so clearly – is simply what others call “a unity of three” (trinity)
t8
The son and the sons are not God
If the Son is not God then why does the Scriptures speak of Him as God in so many places…?
By denying the equality of the Son with the Father – you deny who the Son truly is…
In denying the Son – you actually deny the Father also…
Your final authority is not Scripture…
But your own reasoning..
Sadly, this logic..
has become..
your god.
Hi davidl,
So if scripture says Jesus is a god then by your logic he must be equal to the Lord God, creator of all things.
And if we do not agree with this tacky logic then somehow we are denying God.
Scripture is not your final arbiter-you are.
Men are called gods-Jesus.
1cor 8.’Hi davidl,
“Heb 1
“Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your companions”.
So, as with Jn20
“I ascend to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God”
and
1cor 8″For us there is one God, the Father..”
Have you got two GODS?
You need 2 for equality
Why should I believe you – when you are so confused..!?
Do you not yet know the Father and the Son
in the One Holy Spirit?
David ………Why commit IDOLATRY, JESUS IS NOT A GOD OF AMYKIND, HE NEVER SAID HE WAS, so why should you try to make him one. By saying he is a GOD YOU ARE TURNING THE IMAGE OF HIM INTO THE IMAGE OF “A MAN OF SIN”, 2Ths2, and not even realizing it. God the Father said clearly “YOU SHALL HAVE “NO OTHER” GOD BESIDES ME”. How do you expect the Father to accept you, when you try to make Jesus out to be a another GOD?
peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene
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