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hi N
Hi T,
You hold fast to ONE verse and yet claim that your doctrine can be built on it.
You think you see vague reflections in other ones
Scripture understanding requires higher standards than you rely on and teach with.
And it is a pity you cannot grasp the full meaning of that verse.
====================================================================wrong ,you do that ;I keep telling you that the whole bible as to in accord with it .
the only standard that God needs to make us understand his scriptures is living in the truth ,and this you are not willing to do ,
sad you cannot grasp the real meaning of the whole scriptures for that would be trully the SPIRIT OF JESUS THE CHRIST ,
per ups another time
Hi Kerwin,
Nick doesn’t get what you are saying, but I do;
here is a verse proving what you are trying to say:“Create in me a clean heart, O God;
and renew a right spirit within me.” (Psalms 51:10)Good job Kerwin!
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God bless
Ed JNick
if you start to interpret the scriptures with your own views then yes you just follow carnal views
Nick,
You said:
The spirit of man returns to God
The body returns to earth from whence it came.
Remember man that thou art dust and unto dust thou shalt return.
The mind is educated by the Spirit and becomes spiritual able to discern spiritual things.
The soul seems to remain as is
You point out to Ed that spirit means “soul” in some contexts and have trouble understanding that as well. I am not sure the spirit that is renewed is the spirit that returns to God.
This verse is one reason Nicodemus should have already know the lesson Jesus taught.(John 3:10)
Psalm 51:10Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
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Create in me a clean heart, O God;
and renew a right spirit within me.That is the words of the a prophet yearning for the age of the new covenant.
Nick,
The mind is educated by the Spirit and becomes spiritual able to discern spiritual things.
The soul seems to remain as is
Yes, but the heart is also taught.
Hebrews 10:16Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
hi
you guys ever wonder that there is ;
the spirit of man
the spirit of God
the holy spirit of truth
the spirit of women
the spirit of children
the spirit of the prophets
the spirit of Christ Jesus
the spirit of demons
the spirit of satan
the spirit of the world
the spirit of the wickeds
the spirit of the righteous
and so on …………………….
all those really mean something else than just “SPIRIT “
Terraricca. …..if you truly understood what spirit “is”, you would not say they mean something other then spirit. You do not know it seems what spirits are do you?
Replace all the words “the spirit of”, with “the mind of”, spirit and mind are interchangeable. It all has to do with how we are “thinking”. Scripture say “the spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are the sons of GOD”. THAT TAKES PLACE IN THE “MIND”.
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Hi all apostate
the day you can read the scriptures the way it was written we will talk ,you just don’t like the truth in scriptures you have to make your own version of it ,
I cannot do that
terrarica,
They actually mean “spirit” but other words are synonymous to a degree.
It has many meanings and more than one of them may apply to any passage it is mentioned.
“natural” on the other hand is deceptive at times since it is a synonym that hides aspects of the truth when the actual word is soulish.
I think the use of it and like words to translate the equivalent of soulish is due to the translators objection to the idea beasts have souls.
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