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- September 17, 2014 at 2:36 pm#770300Ed JParticipant
Hi Nick,
Who is “the Spirit of your Father” mentioned in Matthew 10:20?
1> HolySpirit
2> spirit of christWould you really say BOTH here?
Number 1?
Number 2
or both one and two?September 17, 2014 at 3:48 pm#770308NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
The Spirit of the Father is the Spirit of God.
But in the one Holy Spirit are the Father and the Son.
September 18, 2014 at 7:38 am#770416carmelParticipantJesus was already flesh when “The Word”(HolySpirit) was made flesh.
Edj,
“THE WORD” IS NOT “THE HOLY GHOST, OR THE HOLY SPIRIT!”
“THE WORD” IS ONLY JESUS’ FLESH BODY!
THE FACT THAT JOHN WROTE: THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!
HE DIDN’T WRITE THE WORD WAS MADE MAN, FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT MAN HAS ALSO A SOUL AND A SPIRIT!
TO CLARIFY: JESUS’ VOICE ITSELF WAS THE ACTUAL SPIRIT OF THE SON, “THE WORD”, AND THE WORDS SPOKEN CAME FROM THE ACTUAL SPIRIT OF THE FATHER! WHO WAS WITHIN JESUS’SOUL, DEFINITELY THE HOLY SPIRIT!
SO “THE WORD” CANNOT BE BOTH THE FLESH AND IN THE SAME TIME THE SOUL
SO THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS JESUS’ SOUL!
THE ABODE OF THE FATHER!
“THE WORD” FROM THE OTHER HAND WAS THE ABODE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT,JESUS’ SOUL
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
September 18, 2014 at 8:26 am#770435NickHassanParticipantHi C,
So the Word did not exist before being made flesh?
The Word was with God and was God.
You thoughts confuse youSeptember 19, 2014 at 6:21 pm#770860carmelParticipantSo the Word did not exist before being made flesh?
Nick,
WHAT YOU’VE JUST SAID IS PURE NONSENSE:
AS I ALREADY SAID YOUR INTEREST IS SIMPLY TO EXPAND THAT NUMBER OF YOUR POSTS!
NOW REFLECT:
SINCE “THE WORD” BECAME FLESH,
COULD IT HAVE BECOME FLESH UNLESS IT EXISTED AS “THE WORD” FIRST!
ALSO, SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR!
IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD
THEN AFTER GOD ALMIGHTY,
THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT CREATED ALL BY “THE WORD”,
ENDED HIS WORK
CREATED “THE WORD’S” OWN SINLESS MOTHER AS HER SOUL ITSELF,OBVIOUS ALWAYS THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT!
THEN:
THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH JESUS’BODY
SO NOTICE SCRIPTURE, DIDN’T SAY :
THE WORD WAS MADE MAN! SINCE MAN IS COMPOSED ALSO OF A SOUL AND A SPIRIT
BUT FLESH!
THIS TO MAKE US AWARE THAT ONLY JESUS’BODY IS ACTUALLY:
THE WORD
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
September 19, 2014 at 6:38 pm#770861NickHassanParticipantHi C,
Yes the Word was with God and was God.
Yes the Word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us.
No sinless mothers anywhere except in catholic theology.[ps 25]
The Word is not a body.
God never was a human body
September 19, 2014 at 6:42 pm#770862NickHassanParticipantHi C,
ooops
that should be Job 25
September 21, 2014 at 2:31 am#771050carmelParticipantNo sinless mothers anywhere except in catholic theology.[ps 25]
Nick,
WITH YOUR ARGUMENT NO SINLESS SON,
SINCE THE WORD WAS BORN OF A WOMAN!
SO WE ARE NOT REDEEMED !
SINCE THE MESSIAH HAD TO BE SINLESS!
YOU ALSO SAID:Yes the Word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us.
THEN YOU SAID:The Word is not a body.
WHICH ONE IS TRUE?
HOW COULD THE WORD BECOME FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US, AND IN THE SAME TIME IS NOT A BODY?
God never was a human body
BUT NOW HE IS BOTH MAN AND GOD IN ONE BODY CONFIRMED HERUNDER:
John 17:3 Now this is eternal life: That they may KNOW YOU,THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST,
whom thou hast sent.
TO ACCOMPLISH IT
AND ALSO IS WHAT HE ALWAYS WAS:
MYSTERIOUS, UNKNOWN, UNFATHOMABLE, SPIRIT
September 21, 2014 at 12:55 pm#771146kerwinParticipantCarmel,
WITH YOUR ARGUMENT NO SINLESS SON,
SINCE THE WORD WAS BORN OF A WOMAN!
SO WE ARE NOT REDEEMED !
SINCE THE MESSIAH HAD TO BE SINLESS!
It sounds like you go for a teaching of original sin that is not correct.
According to Scripture each individual is accountable for his own sins and a man’s children suffer the effects of his sin. So God does not hold us responsible for Adam’s sin but the effect of Adam’s sin is that each and every member of the human race has been made subject to sin. Jesus is an exception.
September 21, 2014 at 4:23 pm#771168NickHassanParticipantHi C,
So you assume that he was born sinless.
But scripture says he is an overcomer [rev 3.21].
If Mary had to be sinless to would not the same apply to her parents, and their parents…
?
September 21, 2014 at 9:30 pm#771202NickHassanParticipantHi C,
Did you think all are redeemed?
No you must be born again at least.
September 22, 2014 at 3:30 am#771242carmelParticipantSo God does not hold us responsible for Adam’s sin but the effect of Adam’s sin is that each and every member of the human race has been made subject to sin. Jesus is an exception.
Kerwin,
CAN YOU DEFINE IN RESPECT TO MY QUESTIONS HEREUNDER,WHAT THIS STATEMENT OF YOURS MEANS?
the effect of Adam’s sin is that each and every member of the human race has been made subject to sin.
WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF ADAM’S SIN?
WHAT ACTUALLY SPIRITUALLY HAPPENED?
WHAT DID ADAM LOAD HUMANITY WITH WHEN HE COMMITTED HIS SIN?
WHY DID GOD SAY TO ADAM:
CURSED ( DEAD, SATANIC) IS THE EARTH (THE PROCESS OF PRODUCING SOULS) IN YOUR WORK (IN WHATEVER YOU DO)
SO ABSOLUTE GENERAL USELESS WORK!
HUMANITY ONLY GOT SWEAT THROUGH, ATE THEIR BREAD, AND DOWN TO HELL THEY WENT!
NOW REGARDING JESUS:
HE WAS NOT LOADED, WITH THE LEAST OF WHAT ADAM LOADED HUMANITY WITH, OBVIOUS HOW COULD HE HAVE BEEN THE REDEEMER?
NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT HE WAS IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
September 22, 2014 at 3:44 am#771243carmelParticipantBut scripture says he is an overcomer [rev 3.21].
Nick,
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU?
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
September 22, 2014 at 4:02 am#771244carmelParticipantIf Mary had to be sinless to would not the same apply to her parents, and their parents…
Nick,
IN MY PREVIOUS POST WITH RESPECT TO SCRIPTURE I WROTE:
THE WORD CREATED HIS MOTHER FIRST, AS HER SOUL, IN ORDER FOR HIM TO BE BORN OF HER IN FLESH!
SO SINCE THE WORD, WAS GOD, SINLESS, HE WAS SINLESS BOTH IN THE CREATION OF HIS MOTHER, AND IN HIS PROCESS TO BECOME FLESH, THROUGH HER CONCEPTION BY THE HOLY SPIRIT !
Genesis 2:24 Wherefore a man THE WORD shall leave father GOD ALMIGHTY, and mother,AFTER HE WAS BORN IN FLESH and shall cleave to his wife: ON THE CROSS, HIS CHURCH,
and they shall be two in one flesh.
SINCE MARY’S SOUL AND JESUS’ FLESH WERE:
BOTH THE WORD
AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
September 22, 2014 at 4:42 am#771246NickHassanParticipantHi C,
The meaning of OVERCOMER Is shown in Rev 1-3.
You add your private interpretations to scripture. Is that wise?
September 22, 2014 at 6:54 am#771364NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Why not rely on scripture?
Your fabrications are not helpful.
September 22, 2014 at 1:51 pm#771789kerwinParticipantCarmel,
WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF ADAM’S SIN?
Physically creation was subjected to both frustration and corruption. There is some other physical things that happened by that was thee most major one, Romans 8:19-21.
Spiritually human being became servants of sin,John 8:31-37.
Jesus is the one God in his mercy and compassion appointed to set us free.
September 24, 2014 at 7:09 am#775041carmelParticipantSpiritually human being became servants of sin,John 8:31-37.
Kerwin,
WHAT ARE SERVANTS OF SIN?
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
September 24, 2014 at 1:45 pm#775086kerwinParticipantCarmel,
Anyone that sins is a servant to sin and mankind was bound to sin through Adam’s sin. Jesus is the only one that can set us free.
September 27, 2014 at 11:54 am#775553GeneBalthropParticipantNick……..but your fabrications are?
peace and love to you and yours…………….gene
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