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Hi Nick,
Was John the baptist water baptized?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
The prophets were clean vessels fit to be used of the Spirit of God.
Their walk was according to the OT law.The new covenant is in the blood of Jesus Christ and we must be clothed in Christ through baptism.[gal3.27]
We must be baptised into his death[Rom6] and raised in the Spirit[rom6]Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 27 2014,18:48) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2014,17:00) Journey, Jesus is not a half-God. The Greek polytheistic religion had plenty of half-god's and they had no trouble making that clear to their hearers and yet not one word in Scripture about Jesus being a half-God.
Hi Kerwin,You may find that term distasteful,
but Scripture is clear that Jesus had
a human mother and GOD was his father.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,There is nowhere where it states Jesus is a hybrid. Instead it is written that Jesus was made from a woman and is the heir of God and a son of his Spirit. All of God's children are children of his Spirit.
Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 27 2014,12:52) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2014,17:00) Journey, Jesus is not a half-God. The Greek polytheistic religion had plenty of half-god's and they had no trouble making that clear to their hearers and yet not one word in Scripture about Jesus being a half-God.
KerwinJesus was 100% human,
but his Father is God.
It's that simple.
Journey,Jesus was 100% human as for his flesh, soul, spirit but 100% son of God as for his Spirit.
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 27 2014,18:21) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2014,04:42) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 26 2014,18:20) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2014,13:39) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 24 2014,07:41) unless you dont want to accept that verse then you have to make your own heb 1.10 hahahah
Actually,I only need to accept the words YOU said, jammin.
If he has limitations, then he is not God.
Jesus has limitations. That should clear it up once and for all, right?
that is the HUMAN nature of JESUS.do you understand?
Jammin,It is not understandable because it is another broken trinitarian tenet. It can only be accepted on blind faith. You have made the choice to do so.
oh really? you call it blind faith if the belief is WRITTEN in the bible. but if it is NOT WRITTEN, you call it true faith?i am not surprised because your doctrine came from men.
this topic is now more than 1000 pages but i did not see any proof from you that the Word in john 1.1 is not Christ.you are one of those people who do not want to listen to the true meaning of the word of God.
2 Timothy 4:3-4
New American Standard Bible (NASB)3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
Jammin,I call it blind faith because it cannot be tested against Scripture. It is broken and Scripture cannot be broken. You can claim what you want but that does not change what is.
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 28 2014,03:09) Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 27 2014,12:52) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2014,17:00) Journey, Jesus is not a half-God. The Greek polytheistic religion had plenty of half-god's and they had no trouble making that clear to their hearers and yet not one word in Scripture about Jesus being a half-God.
KerwinJesus was 100% human,
but his Father is God.
It's that simple.
Journey,Jesus was 100% human as for his flesh, soul, spirit but 100% son of God as for his Spirit.
kWRONG ,THE SOUL CAN NOT BE KILLED BY ANYONE ELSE THAN GOD ;SCRIPTURES SAY SO ,
SO THE SOUL OF JESUS WAS THE SAME IN HEAVEN THAN ON EARTH AS IT BECAME FLESH
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 28 2014,03:06) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 27 2014,18:48) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2014,17:00) Journey, Jesus is not a half-God. The Greek polytheistic religion had plenty of half-god's and they had no trouble making that clear to their hearers and yet not one word in Scripture about Jesus being a half-God.
Hi Kerwin,You may find that term distasteful,
but Scripture is clear that Jesus had
a human mother and GOD was his father.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,There is nowhere where it states Jesus is a hybrid. Instead it is written that Jesus was made from a woman and is the heir of God and a son of his Spirit. All of God's children are children of his Spirit.
Kbut how could that be because only one as God for a father
please explainEd wrote:[/quote]
Quote Was John the baptist water baptized? Edj,
JOHN WAS NEVER CONCEIVED THROUGH AN INTERCOURSE!
HE WAS CONCEIVED IN THE SAME WAY AS JESUS WAS:
HE WAS MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL'S SPIRIT!
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS THAT JOHN NEVER CARRIED SATAN'S SPIRIT WITHIN HIS SOUL, WHILE JESUS HAD. OBVIOUS WITHOUT BEING IN CONTACT WITH HIM!
THE FACT THAT JOHN WAS THE GREATEST WHO WAS BORN OF A WOMAN,AND ALSO WAS THE ONLY BEING SUPERIOR TO SATAN, AND HAD FULL AUTHORITY OVER HIM.
THE FACT THAT HE REMOVED SATAN'S SPIRIT FROM JESUS'SOUL ONCE AND FOR ALL
ON HIS BAPTISM!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
kerwin,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Instead it is written that Jesus was made from a woman Kerwin,
JESUS WAS NEVER MADE FROM A WOMAN IN REALITY!
BORN OF A WOMAN YES! BUT THAT IS A HELL OF A LOT DIFFERENCE!
I SAID MANY TIMES THAT JESUS IS A PARADOX!
THEREFORE HE IS BORN OF MARY AS MUCH AS HE WAS NOT!
NOW READ:
Genesis 2:22 Then the Lord God cast a deep sleep upon Adam: and when he was fast asleep, he took one of his ribs, and filled up flesh for it.
22And the Lord God built the rib which he took from Adam into a woman: and brought her to Adam.
3And Adam said: This now is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man.REFLECTION ON SOME PARALLELS
EVE, MOTHER OF THE FLESH,WAS AN INTEGRAL PART OF ADAM,FATHER OF THE SPIRIT, HIS SOUL!
LIKEWISE:
JESUS,THE WORD MADE FLESH, FATHER OF THE FLESH, WAS AN INTEGRAL PART OF MARY, THE MOTHER OF THE SPIRIT! HER SOUL!
THROUGH ADAM'S SOUL ( THE BONE) WAS BUILT EVE’S FLESH BODY!
LIKEWISE:
THROUGH MARY'S SOUL,(THE WORD,)WAS BUILT JESUS FLESH BODY!
EVE, MOTHER OF THE FLESH WAS BUILT OUTSIDE OF ADAM! FATHER OF THE SPIRIT! SO WITHIN ADAM SHE WAS A SPIRIT!
LIKEWISE:
JESUS, FATHER OF THE FLESH, WAS BUILT OUTSIDE OF MARY! MOTHER OF THE SPIRIT! SO WITHIN MARY HE WAS A SPIRIT!
ALSO:
AS EVE, FEMALE WAS AN INTEGRAL PART OF ADAM, MALE,
LIKEWISE
MARY, FEMALE, WAS ALSO AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE WORD, MALE!
AS THE FEMALE FLESH,WAS BUILT THROUGH THE MALE’S BONE, HER SOUL,WHILE ADAM WAS IN A DEEP SLEEP, ENVISAGING HER!
MARY WAS ALSO BUILT THROUGH THE WORD,HER SOUL! WHILE THE SECOND ADAM WAS IN A WAY, IN A DEEP SLEEP IN CREATION! CREATING HER!
NOW:
AFTER EVE WAS BUILT IN FLESH OUTSIDE OF ADAM , SHE WAS BROUGHT TO ADAM!
LIKEWISE
AFTER JESUS WAS BUILT IN FLESH OUTSIDE OF MARY HE WAS BROUGHT TO MARY !
THROUGH THESE PARALLELS, IT IS QUITE CLEAR THAT:
MARY’S BODY WAS FROM THE GENERATIONS OF HEAVEN!
MARY’S SOUL WAS THE WORD,
MARY’S SPIRIT WAS THE HOLY SPIRIT!
JESUS FLESH BODY WAS THE WORD,
JESUS’ SOUL WAS THE HOLY SPIRIT
JESUS’ SPIRIT WAS THE FATHER’S
SO THE WORD WAS BOTH MARY’S SOUL, AND JESUS’ FLESH BODY!
THEREFORE THE WORD WAS BOTH MALE AND FEMALE !
THE HOLY SPIRIT, WAS THE SPIRIT IN MARY’S SOUL AND JESUS’SOUL!
SO THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS ALSO MALE AND FEMALE
THEREFORE THE FATHER’S SPIRIT IN JESUS, WAS ALSO MALE AND FEMALE !
SO GOD WAS BOTH MALE AND FEMALE, IN JESUS' BODY, BOTH SOUL AND FLESH, BOTH SON OF GOD, AND SON OF MAN!
SO JESUS ALTHOUGH HE WAS MAN HE ALSO WAS NOT! SINCE HE WAS A PARADOX!1 Corinthians 11 But yet neither is the man without the woman, nor the woman without the man, in THE LORD.
WAS THE WORD SUBJECT TO MARY? OR MARY WAS SUBJECT TO THE WORD?
SINCE THE HEAD OF THE WOMAN IS THE MAN!
Luke,1:46 And Mary said: My SOUL doth magnify the Lord. (THE WORD)
47And my SPIRIT hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.( THE HOLY SPIRIT)
48 Because he hath regarded theHUMILITY MARY WAS IN A WAY NOT A PROPER WOMAN, A WOMAN FOR GOD IN FLESH ONLY!
of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
YES JESUS WAS SUBJECT TO MARY, AS MUCH AS THE RAY OF THE SUN IS SUBJECT TO THE GLASS,
WHEN IT GOES THROUGH A GLASS!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2014,21:20) Hi MB,
“SomeTHING that used to BE God can't later become someONE who is no longer God. “Ahem
Is God a thing or a one to you?
God is spirit-get over it
Is the Word of God from John 1:1 and 1:14 a someTHING – or a someONE, Nick?What is your answer?
Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 25 2014,22:49) In the BEGINNING, the Word was there,
it was WITH God, (creating)
And it WAS God (before he started creating)
So in your mind, John, for some odd reason, listed the events out of order?Shouldn't he have said “the Word WAS God, but then the Word came to be WITH God” ?
Why does John have the Word being WITH God first, and BEING God later?
Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 25 2014,22:49) The KJV was issued first, yours came much later preaching a different gospel…….
One of the very first languages into which the Greek NT was translated was the Coptic language. Somewhere around 200-300 A.D., I believe. The Coptic language was the very first language into which the NT was translated that uses an indefinite article like English does. And the Coptic people translated John 1:1 as, “and the Word was A god“.That means that at the VERY FIRST opportunity someone had to translate 1:1 as “a god” – they did it. Long, long, long BEFORE your KJV translated it as “God”.
Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 25 2014,22:49) Now I am talking to Charles, if you don't mind.
Talk away, journey. I'm not stopping you. As I read your posts, if I see something that needs pointed out, questioned, or corrected, I will do so. But you are under no obligation to respond to those questions and corrections.Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 26 2014,00:10) ……this one deserves an answer; Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 25 2014,08:55) The angels were called “sons of God” but they did not come forth out of the Father, because they were created. Quote (mikeboll @ 64) Created out of what, journey?
God spoke and they were created.Jesus is different from any other however, because he came out of God.
Yeah, but of WHAT were they created? Did there exist other things at that time that God made them OUT OF?Or was there only God and His Word at that time?
If the latter, then those other spirit sons of God were made out of the same exact thing the firstborn spirit Son of God was made of: God Himself.
Think it out……. if there was nothing BUT God, then those other spirit sons have as much claim to being made “from God” as that firstborn Son does.
Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 26 2014,00:10) He was actually inside God, before he was brought forth when he was The Word…………
Was he inside of God as a living, breathing BEING before God brought him out? If not, then once again, those other spirit sons of God could equally say they (the stuff they're made of) were inside God before God brought them out.The scriptural teaching is that Jesus was created FIRST, and then all other things were subsequently created THROUGH him. Many try to ignore this teaching, because it doesn't align with their personal wishes for what Jesus should have been – or with their favorite English translation.
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 26 2014,06:20) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2014,13:39)
I only need to accept the words YOU said, jammin.If he has limitations, then he is not God.
Jesus has limitations. That should clear it up once and for all, right?
that is the HUMAN nature of JESUS.do you understand?
So Jesus exists right now with both human and God natures?If that was the case, then I would be right in saying Jesus has limitations, right? And you told me that if one has limitations, that one is not “God”.
But let me ask you this, jammin: Which of Jesus' two natures will destroy his enemies – the last of which will be death?
Quote (carmel @ Mar. 26 2014,11:55) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 26 2014,13:42) God didn't NEED a woman. God CHOSE to do it that way. MIke,
IT IS CONVINCINGLY CLEAR THAT GOD, IN ORDER TO HAVE HIS SON, HE NEEDED A WOMAN……..
No Charles,God is able to create children for Abraham out of stones of the field. He doesn't NEED anything, or anyone.
Never has, never will.
Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 26 2014,21:50) Quote WHY DIDN'T HE CAME DIRECTLY FROM HEAVEN LIKE A METEORITE?
If that was the case, then Jesus would not be born flesh, and the whole plan would not be carried out the way God designed it.
Good answer, journey.Quote (journey42 @ Mar. 27 2014,00:52) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2014,17:00) Journey, Jesus is not a half-God. The Greek polytheistic religion had plenty of half-god's and they had no trouble making that clear to their hearers and yet not one word in Scripture about Jesus being a half-God.
KerwinJesus was 100% human,
but his Father is God.
It's that simple.
Another good answer, journey.Kerwin apparently forgot that both Jesus and Adam have God as their ONLY father.
If Adam wasn't a “half-god” because of this, why does Kerwin think it would make Jesus a “half-god”?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2014,06:38) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 28 2014,06:06) Hi Nick, Was John the baptist water baptized?
Hi ED,Were any of the prophets baptized?
You mean “water baptized”, I would say no.
hi
could any one be baptized without the knowledge of knowing God and/or Christ ;
and who else beside the Jews knew the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacobs converts to Judaism and ?Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 28 2014,08:06) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 27 2014,18:48) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2014,17:00) Journey, Jesus is not a half-God. The Greek polytheistic religion had plenty of half-god's and they had no trouble making that clear to their hearers and yet not one word in Scripture about Jesus being a half-God.
Hi Kerwin,You may find that term distasteful,
but Scripture is clear that Jesus had
a human mother and GOD was his father.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,There is nowhere where it states Jesus is a hybrid. Instead it is written that Jesus was made from a woman and is the heir of God and a son of his Spirit. All of God's children are children of his Spirit.
Hi Kerwin,The bible says we are “Son's of God” by the spirit of adoption.
Jesus was *BORN* the “Son of God” …GOD's only begotten son.
Our fathers were human, while Jesus' father was God. (<– are you denying this)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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