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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2014,09:04) Hi,
The WORD is the Spirit in Jesus the Son of God
Nick Hassen………..> Right ON brother. the word is the Spirit of God that was IN Jesus speaking directly through him.Good to hear from you, hope all is well with you Nick.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………..gene
Mike……..No WORD can “be” FLESH, because Flesh is PHYSICAL MATTER, and WORDS are “INTELLIGENT UTTERANCES” SPIRITUAL Driven. God who is SPIRIT was “IN” Jesus speaking through Him to us , Just as he was the prophets of old. for God who spoke to us in times past in different way through the Prophets, has spoken to us in these latter days, “THROUGH” a Son.
God and his words are one you can not separate God from his words. Jesus is not a God of any kind He became a Son of God when He received the holy Spirit at the Jordan, That is why a voice from heaven said thou art my Son “THIS DAY” I (God) have “BEGOTTEN YOU”. Not a time in the Past but “THIS DAY” Jesus was begotten of GOD the FATHER. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene
mikeboll64,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
Quote But which creature do YOU think was created first, Charles? Mike,
I AM 100% SURE THAT LUCIFER WAS THE FIRST CREATURE, THAT WAS EVER CREATED!
SO LET'S ACCEPT THAT LUCIFER WAS CREATED FIRST AND THROUGH HIM GOD CREATED ALL !
HERE COMES MY QUESTION!
WHEN GOD CREATED LUCIFER, AND IN ORDER TO CREATE LUCIFER HE INSERTED
THE WORD WITHIN HIM, IN ORDER FOR THE WORD TO BE THE FIRST BORN OF THIS FIRST CREATED BEING, SINCE ALL BY HIM, AND ALL WITH HIM,
DOES THAT MAKE THE WORD, ALSO CREATED?
OR ONLY LUCIFER WAS CREATED?
KEEP IN MIND, THAT THE WORD IS THE SON, WITH THE FULL POWER OF THE TRIUNE GOD WITHIN, THERFORE WITHIN THE WORD THERE WAS ALSO THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND THE FATHER’S SPIRIT FROM HEAVEN
DOES THAT MAKE THE FATHER AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ALSO CREATED?
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi C,
Triune god?
Is this god in scripture or perhaps of babylon?Jesus said 'true worshipers will worship the Father in Spirit and truth..'Jn4
Perhaps this is the reason for your confusion?
Are you not a true worshiper?nick wrote:[/quote]
Quote Hi C,
Triune god?Nick,
I SAID TRIUNE GOD, NOT GODS
THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, IS THE PERFECTION OF THE DEITY!
YOU ARE ALSO A TRIUNE BEING AS WELL! AND YOU ARE THE IMAGE OF GOD NO?
YOU HAVE A SPIRIT FROM THE FATHER!
YOU HAVE A SOUL FROM THE SON!
YOU HAVE A FLESH AND BLOOD BODY FROM EARTH! EX SATAN!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
mikeboll64,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Do we not all have one Father? Did not one God create us? Mike,
THE ABOVE IS NOT A PROOF THAT THE FATHER WAS THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN THE OT.
KEEP IN MIND THAT SATAN TOOK IT FOR GRANTED THAT HE WAS GOD OF THE EARTH AND ALL HUMANS ARE OF THE EARTH!
HE WAS ALSO UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HE WAS A FATHER AS WELL!
John 8:44 You are of YOUR FATHER the devil, and the desires of YOUR FATHER you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the FATHER THEREOF.
SO PROVE THAT THE FATHER WAS THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN THE OT!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Charles,
Quote READ AND DISCERN THE TRUTH: Hebrews 1:1 God, who, at sundry times and in divers manners, spoke in times past to the fathers by the prophets, last of all, 2In these days hath spoken to us by his Son,
WHOM HE HAD APPOINTED HEIR OF ALL THINGS
IT IS AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL: HEIR OF ALL THINGS, INCLUDING THE TITLE OF:
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST
I am not seeing what you are seeing as I know that Jesus was established as heir of all things when he was made King of every thing in heaven and on earth. Being made Kind is not the same as being made the one true God. He instead inherited the role of the word of God.
Charles,
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Posted: Mar. 01 2014,12:40 QUOTEQuote (kerwin @ Mar. 01 2014,16:13)
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I thought I explained it good enough but I will try again. The word has many inherent qualities that God but it does not have the inherent quality of being God.Kerwin,
READ AND DISCERN THE TRUTH:
Hebrews 1:1 God, who, at sundry times and in divers manners, spoke in times past to the fathers by the prophets, last of all, 2In these days hath spoken to us by his Son,
WHOM HE HAD APPOINTED HEIR OF ALL THINGS
IT IS AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL: HEIR OF ALL THINGS, INCLUDING THE TITLE OF:
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST
by whom also he made the world. 3Who being the brightness of his GOD'S glory, and the figure of his GOD'S substance, and upholding all things by the word of his GOD'S power, making purgation of sins, sitteth on the right hand of the majesty on high. ALMIGHTY GOD
4Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath inherited a more excellent name than they.
HAPPY?
NOW, CONTRADICT THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE WITH ANOTHER SCRIPTURE!
I don't need to contradict the passage as it is your understanding of it that is mistaken. The bias of the translators may have misled you as The Emphatic Diaglott New Testiment translation states it as:
2 whom he appointed an heir of all things, (on account of whom also the ages he made,)
This same translation agrees with Mike on John 1:1c.
Hi C,
How does Jesus calling Satan the father of the pharisees
show
that Satan THOUGHT he was their father??Assumptions added to assumptions lead you astray.
Quote (carmel @ Mar. 02 2014,07:43) nick wrote:[/quote]
Quote Hi C,
Triune god?Nick,
I SAID TRIUNE GOD, NOT GODS
THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, IS THE PERFECTION OF THE DEITY!
YOU ARE ALSO A TRIUNE BEING AS WELL! AND YOU ARE THE IMAGE OF GOD NO?
YOU HAVE A SPIRIT FROM THE FATHER!
YOU HAVE A SOUL FROM THE SON!
YOU HAVE A FLESH AND BLOOD BODY FROM EARTH! EX SATAN!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi C,
Why should we sup on catholic falsehoods when we have living bread to eat?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2014,07:51) Quote Thank you for your opinions.
Can you find this god in the bible?Nick,
I NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS MY OP.
IT'S HEREUNDER WRITTEN IN BLACK ON WHITE!
1 John 5:7 And there are three who give testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one. 8And there are three that give testimony on earth: the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three are one.
Quote Are you a true worshiper? AND HOW!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
nick wrote:[/quote]
Quote Why should we sup on catholic falsehoods when we have living bread to eat? Nick,
MAN DOES NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Mar. 02 2014,17:16) nick wrote:[/quote]
Quote Thank you for your opinions.
Can you find this god in the bible?Nick,
I NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS MY OP.
IT'S HEREUNDER WRITTEN IN BLACK ON WHITE!
1 John 5:7 And there are three who give testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one. 8And there are three that give testimony on earth: the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three are one.
Quote Are you a true worshiper? AND HOW!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi C,
O you prefer the adulterated verse.
Not a good choice.kerwin,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
Quote 2 whom he appointed an heir of all things,( on account of whom also the ages he made,) Kerwin,
I DON'T BLAME YOU!
READ MY MANIFESTOS, THE TRUTH!! MY PRIDE FOR GOD'S GLORY
THE WORD WAS GOD IN THE BEGINNING!
THE WORD WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE DEITY BEFORE ANYTHING WAS CREATED!
THEREFORE SINCE THE DEITY ESTABLISHED THE WORDBEFORE ANYTHING IN ORDER TO. AS YOU STATED:
on account of whom also the ages he made!
THEREFORE HE BECAME THE HEIR OF WHAT HE WAS :
THE WORD IN FLESH FORM! FIRST
THEN THE FATHER, GLORIFIED THE WORD MADE FLESH, JESUS AND HIMSELF THROUGH JESUS' DEATH WITH ONE SAME GLORY! ETERNALLY
John13:31 When he therefore was gone out, Jesus said: Now is the SON OF MAN GLORIFIED, and God is glorified IN HIM. 32If God be glorified in him, God also will GLORIFY HIM IN HIMSELF; and immediately will he glorify him.
John17:1THESE things Jesus spoke, and lifting up his eyes to heaven, he said: FATHER, the hour is come, GLORIFIY YOUR SON, that YOUR SON MAY GLORIFY YOU.
John17:5 And now GLORIFY YOU ME, O Father, with thyself, with THE GLORY WHICH I HAD ,BEFORE THE WORLD WAS, WITH YOU
SO SINCE AFTER THAT THOSE WORDS WERE SPOKEN, THE FATHER GLORIFIED THROUGH JESUS'DEATH, OBVIOUS!
JESUS ACQUIRED THE SAME GLORY OF THE FATHER, LIKE HE WAS BEFORE THE WORLD WAS
WHICH AS YOU WELL STATED, WERE
on account of whom also the ages HE MADE! AS THE WORD AND THE WORD WAS GOD
SO:
READ AGAIN:
Hebrews 1:1 God, who, at sundry times and in divers manners, spoke in times past to the fathers by the prophets, last of all, 2In these days hath spoken to us by his Son,
WHOM HE HAD APPOINTED HEIR OF ALL THINGS
IT IS AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL: HEIR OF ALL THINGS, INCLUDING THE TITLE OF:
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST THE WORD, SINCE THROUGH THE WORD HE MADE ALL THINGS, AND
THE WORD MADE FLESH SINCE BY THE WORD MADE FLESH REDEEMED ALL THINGS
WHEN I AM LIFTED UP I PULL ALL THINGS TO MYSELF ALL THE ENTIRE EXISTENCE INCLUDING THE OWNERSHIP OF
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST
THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT FOR ETERNITY!
THEN PAUL EMPHASISED IT :
by whom also he made the world. THEREFORE
THE WORD JESUS AS THE SON'S SPIRIT! THE LAMB SLAIN FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD REV 13:8
REFLECT:
3Who being the brightness of his GOD'S glory, and the figure of his GOD'S substance, and upholding ALL THINGS by THE WORD of his GOD'S power,
CLEAR NO?
HIS GOD'S GLORY,
HIS GOD'S SUBSTANCE
AND HIS GOD'S POWER,
HIS OWN, HIS GENUINE UNIQUE POWER,WHICH ONLY GOD ALMIGHTY OWN!
making purgation of sins, sitteth on the right hand of the majesty on high. ALMIGHTY GOD
EQUAL WITHIN ONE SAME GLORY
Genesis 2:24 Wherefore a man shall leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they shall be two in one flesh.
OK?
TWO IN ONE FLESH THE FATHER IN THE SON!
THE OPPOSITE OF HOW THEY WERE BEFORE THE WORLD WAS, AS WE ALL KNOW THE SON IN THE FATHER
MANY THAT ARE FIRST BECOME LAST AND MANY THAT ARE LAST BECOME FIRST!
I CAN'T SEE ANY KINGS CAN YOU?
HAPPY?
NOW, CONTRADICT THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE WITH ANOTHER SCRIPTURE!
NOT ACCORDING TO YOUR VIEWS, AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE! WHICH IS NOT THE TRUTH!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
mikeboll64,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
Quote The same goes with “established BY the Deity”. If he was established BY the Deity, he can't very well BE the Deity who established him. This is simple common sense, Charles.
Mike,
FOR ME IS MORE THEN THAT IT IS CHILDISH
SATAN ESTABLISHED HIMSELF AS THE FATHER OF LIES
SO THE FATHER OF LIES IS SATAN, ESTABLISHED BY SATAN HIMSELF!
THE DEITY ESTABLISHED THE WORD, SO THE WORD IS GOD ESTABLISHED BY GOD HIMSELF
PELE ESTABLISHED HIMSELF AS THE GOD OF FOOTBALL
THE GOD OF FOOTBALL IS PELE ESTABLISHED BY PELE
HIMSELF!YOU MIKE, ESTABLISHED YOURSELF AS THE NONSENSICAL GOD!
THE NONSENSICAL GOD IS MIKE ESTABLISHED BY MIKE HIMSELF!
THAT'S ENOUGH FOR THAT LESSON!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
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