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[quote=mikeboll64,Feb. 14 2014,11:16][/quote]
Quote I didn't even know how to answer that post, Wakeup. I like Charles, but many of his ideas come from somewhere other than the scriptures.
Mike,
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS WORKING IN YOU, AND YOU ARE AWARE OF IT!
Mark 13:11…………… be not thoughtful beforehand what you shall speak; but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye. For it is not you that speak, but the Holy Ghost
YES MIKE MY TEACHING IS NOT MINE!
Galatians 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? If I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
[quote=Wakeup,Feb. 13 2014,23:32][/quote]
Quote God is the same yester day, today, and forever.
God does not change,and so also His Spirit.
The truth does not change. The spirit of truth is always the same.Wakeup,
THE DEITY NEVER CHANGED!
BUT THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT
FOR SURE: ALL CHANGED THROUGH GLORIFICATION! COMMON SENSE!
SO READ, REFLECT, AND UNDERSTAND THE NEXT MANIFESTOS!
MIKE HAS IMPROVED, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT IS WORKING IN HIM!
SINCE HE SAID THAT:
many of his ideas come from somewhere other than the scriptures.
OBVIOUS FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT, SINCE SCRIPTURES ARE BEING CORRUPTED BY THE HOUR!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel.
Just as a computer is infected by men,
So also men did to the bible.
But God also is a wise God; He knows that.
Therefore he must have preserved his Word,
against those viruses, So we can still find the truth.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,01:02) Carmel. Just as a computer is infected by men,
So also men did to the bible.
But God also is a wise God; He knows that.
Therefore he must have preserved his Word,
against those viruses, So we can still find the truth.wakeup.
THE KJV BUT WHICH VERSION BECAUSE THEY ALL ARE NOT THE SAME
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,01:02) Carmel. Just as a computer is infected by men,
So also men did to the bible.
But God also is a wise God; He knows that.
Therefore he must have preserved his Word,
against those viruses, So we can still find the truth.wakeup.
Wakeup,No one has infected the Holy Spirit. Don't you believe God is a living God?
Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2014,07:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,01:02) Carmel. Just as a computer is infected by men,
So also men did to the bible.
But God also is a wise God; He knows that.
Therefore he must have preserved his Word,
against those viruses, So we can still find the truth.wakeup.
Wakeup,No one has infected the Holy Spirit. Don't you believe God is a living God?
Kerwin.Yes that is true therefore the true Word of God
is still in tact with us.Satan did infect the Word of God in the garden.
He said the opposite to God's Words.
He said ; no you will not die,but you will live as gods.He has been doing this since then; to now.
He does not rest;for he knows his time is short.
Dont be ignorent of this. Satan is working double time today.
He has INFILTRATED *ALL* things.His main focus is the true Word of God. But God is greater than he.Satan can not touch the Word God has preserved
for His true children.The lovers of God *IN TRUTH*.*God will draw them* to the truth. No one can have an excuse,
for not finding the truth,by saying that the Word has been corruppted by satan.Sorry God not my fault,I am just a man.1. He has not been seeking.
2.He has been seeking, and swallowed what ever is there
without considering any contradictions.Depending on the
scribes, instead on the HS.
3. He should have moved on with prayers,and not stayed
with a book that is corrupted. He should have moved on;
untill he has found,the book that has it all in harmony.
With strong prayers.Love the truth above all books or all pride.
wakeup.
[quote=mikeboll64,Feb. 11 2014,08:46][/quote]
Quote If God's Holy Spirit was automatically given to all creatures already, Jesus' words above would be unnecessary and senseless. Mike, and Wakeup,
The title of this thread is WHO IS THE WORD!
SO READ AND BE AWARE WHO WAS THE WORD!
ALSO, KEEP IN MIND THAT THE WORD HAD ACHIEVED ITS MISSION, BECAME FLESH, IN JESUS BODY ONLY, THEREFORE THE SON OF MAN, AND TOGETHER WITH HIS SOUL, THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS GLORIFIED AS :
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST
FROM THE VERY FIRST DAY, WHEN GOD CREATED THE VERY FIRST ARCHANGEL! UP TO THIS VERY DAY!
GOD NEVER, I REPEAT, NEVER LEFT ANY OF HIS CREATURES THIS INCLUDES EVEN SATAN! Although it would seem so!
SO :
HE WAS, IS AND WILL RFEMAIN IN ALL TILL THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD! WHEN GOD ALMIGHTY WOULD BE ALL IN ALL
NOW TO THE QUESTION!
HOW, AND WHY?
SIMPLE BASICS!
THROUGH THE WORD
SO : WHAT, AND WHO IS THE WORD?
THE WORD IS A COMPOUND SPIRIT!
THE DEITY ESTABLISHED IT IN ORDER FOR GOD TO BE MORE FORMIDABLE, SO HE ENRICHED HIMSELF!
IT WAS THE SON’S SPIRIT
CRAMMED WITH THE ENTIRE OF
GOD’S POWER
TO ACHIEVE GOD’S KINGDOM, AT ALL COST! WITHOUT LOSING THE LEAST OF THE LEAST OF HIS SPIRIT! NOT EVEN SATAN’S THE PRODIGAL SON! THE LOST SHEEP!
NOW:
WHO IS GOD’S POWER!
AGAIN BASICS:
THE HOLY SPIRIT!
SO THE WORD WAS THE SON’S SPIRIT, TOGETHER WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN[/B]
A TWO SPIRIT FUNCTION BUT IN THE SAME TIME FULLY SUPPORTED BY THE FATHER FROM HEAVEN,THEREFORE
THE TRIUNE MEDIATROR CREATOR GOD!
SO THESE TWO SPIRITS LEFT THE FATHER AND WORKED IN ALL CREATION, DESCRIBED HEREUNDER:
1John5: 6 This is he that came by
WATER AND BLOOD,
Jesus Christ: not by
WATER only, but by WATER AND BLOOD.
And it is the Spirit which testifieth, that Christ is the truth.OBVIOUS THROUGH ALL THOSE MIRACLES WHICH THE APOSTLES MANIFESTED AND ACHIEVED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST
THE WORD MADE FLESH
7And there are three who give testimony in heaven, the FATHER
GOD AND THE ONLY SOURCE OF ALL THE ENDLESS VERSATILE SPIRITS!
the Word,
THE ONLY MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD!
and the Holy Ghost.
THE SPIRIT OF GOD WHICH EMANATED AND EMANATES ETERNALLY FROM THE FATHER,
And these three are one. DEITY!
8And there are three that give testimony on earth:
the spirit, JESUS CHRIST’S GLORIFIED
and the water, THE HOLY SPIRIT GLORIFIED IN THE HUMAN ATTRIBUTES OF JESUS! AND RECEIVED THROUGH BATISM! TO ALL BELIEVERS!
and the blood: THE ENTIRE MATTER OWNED BY THE WORD WHO WAS SLAIN FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD! REV13:8 AND REMAINS SEALED IN NATURE TILL THE LAST DAY
THE ABOVE IS DECLARED BY JESUS[B] ON THE CROSS
John 12:32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL THINGS TO MYSELF
AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL ALL CREATION OWNED BY THE WORD
HIS SPIRIT, THE SON’S, IS IN ALL CREATION SEALED TILL THE LAST DAY
and these three are one. FUNCTION FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD!
THEREFORE:
THERE IS NO BABE WHO IS BORN WITHOUT THE WORD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN THE WORD AUTOMATICALLY
THIS FOR THE SIMPLE REASON, THAT SINCE THE WORD IS WITHIN NATURE, AND ALL SOULS ORIGINATE THROUGH NATURE, CLEAN WITHOUT SATAN’S SPIRIT, WHO WAS TOPPLED BY JESUS CHRIST ON THE CROSS!
THE HOLY SPIRIT ABIDES WITHIN AUTOMATICALLY AND WORKING TILL HE MAKES JESUS’ ENEMIES HIS FOOTSTOOL!
THEREFORE UNOFFICIALLY WITHIN ALL NON BELIEVERS! JESUS ENEMIES!
SO THROUGH THE CROSS THE HOLY SPIRIT RETAINED WHAT HE LOST IN ADAM THE ONLY REASON FOR GOD TO SEND HIS SON TO DIE, IN ORDER TO START ALL OVER AGAIN THE PROCESS WHICH HE LOST IN ADAM’S SIN DUE TO THE FACT THAT SATAN OWNED ALL SOULS AND THEY WERE SUBJECT TO DEATH!
BUT JESUS CHRIST THE WORD MADE FLESH ON THE CROSS MADE USELESS THE DEATH!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
[quote=Wakeup,Feb. 13 2014,23:32][/quote]
Quote Baptism of the Holy Spirit is from God.
The HS will open up the eyes to understand spiritual things.
The gospels and prophesies,will be revealed.
Wakeup,
YOU'RE WITH ME!
YOU ARE CONFIRMING THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS WORKING!
AND HE IS WORKING NOT IN CHRISTIANS ONLY, BUT IN ALL HUMANS
IN THE SAME WAY,SATAN WAS WORKING IN ALL HUMANS MAKING THEIR HEART OF STONE, BEFORE REDEMPTION, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SELECT!
SO HE IS DEFINITELY WORKING IN ALL THOSE WHO ARE LOST NO? OTHERWISE HE WOULDN’T BE AS POWERFUL AS SATAN WAS, NEVER MIND SUPERIOR
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel.
You are teaching a strange doctine that is not in scripture,
So I'm not familliar with those teachings.THE HS IS NOT FREE FOR ALL.
Meaning; not all are baptised with the HS,since birth.
The HS is only given to them that are seeking God with their
heart. HS means HOLY. HE CAN NOT RESIDE IN TEMPLES
OF DEMONS.Jesus is Holy,and He has the full measure of the HS.
For He also is the Word of God,which is truth and righteous.
The world received not the HS.
The HS is not dormant in every person.Seek ye God;and he will send you the HS to help you
understand.To open your eyes to spiritual knowledge.
Satan is darkness,and God is light.
If you follow God you will have light.
If you follows satan; you will have darkness.Follow Jesus teachings,for he is the light.
Follow the world teachings,and you will be confused,and never can see the light.Stay with the Word of God,which is Jesus.
Eat His flesh only,which is the spirit of the scriptures.
Eat no strange flesh,for it will impede the truth.wakeup.
[quote=Wakeup,Feb. 16 2014,20:06][/quote]
Quote heart. HS means HOLY. HE CAN NOT RESIDE IN TEMPLES
OF DEMONS.Wakeup,
ARE YOU CALLING ALL NON CHRISTIANS DEMONS?
READ AGAIN:
Matthew 8:9 For I also am a man subject to authority, having under me soldiers; and I say to this, Go, and he goeth, and to another, Come, and he cometh, and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it. 10And Jesus hearing this, marvelled; and said to them that followed him: Amen I say to you, I have not found so great faith in Israel. 11And I say to you that many shall come from the east and the west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven: 12But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 13And Jesus said to the centurion: Go, and as thou hast believed, so be it done to thee. And the servant was healed at the same hour.
HAPPY NOW?
HOW THEREFORE THOSE WHO ARE FROM THE EAST AND WEST, AND NOT CHILDREN OF THE KINGDOM ARE IN HEAVEN?
WHOM YOU ARE CALLING DEMONS!
ISN'T OBVIOUS THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHO WAS IN THEM FROM BIRTH, AND WHEN THEY GREW UP,MATURED, AND HEARD THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN THEM AND THEY LIVED IN CHRIST!
EXPLAIN WHY JESUS IN MATTHEW SAID:
11And I say to you that many shall come from the east and the west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven: 12But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel.
No, I'm not calling them all demons.
Only them that are *worshipping* false gods.
They are worshipping demons;they are not the demons.
The HS will not reside in them.Jesus baptises with the HS.
John baptises with water.
One *has to be* baptised with the HS to receive the HS.Carmel,what is your church/denomination based on?
wakeup.
wakeup.
Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 15 2014,11:43) The Jews teach there are only two names in that passage but the certain translators who teach Jesus is God or those that teach Jesus is a god use four names. Bias!
And what about Hebrews 1:8-9, Kerwin?Does my point #1 stand? Or can you scripturally refute it?
Which one please?
(Then, please address #2 on the list.)
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,09:11) Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2014,07:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,01:02) Carmel. Just as a computer is infected by men,
So also men did to the bible.
But God also is a wise God; He knows that.
Therefore he must have preserved his Word,
against those viruses, So we can still find the truth.wakeup.
Wakeup,No one has infected the Holy Spirit. Don't you believe God is a living God?
Kerwin.Yes that is true therefore the true Word of God
is still in tact with us.Satan did infect the Word of God in the garden.
He said the opposite to God's Words.
He said ; no you will not die,but you will live as gods.He has been doing this since then; to now.
He does not rest;for he knows his time is short.
Dont be ignorent of this. Satan is working double time today.
He has INFILTRATED *ALL* things.His main focus is the true Word of God. But God is greater than he.Satan can not touch the Word God has preserved
for His true children.The lovers of God *IN TRUTH*.*God will draw them* to the truth. No one can have an excuse,
for not finding the truth,by saying that the Word has been corruppted by satan.Sorry God not my fault,I am just a man.1. He has not been seeking.
2.He has been seeking, and swallowed what ever is there
without considering any contradictions.Depending on the
scribes, instead on the HS.
3. He should have moved on with prayers,and not stayed
with a book that is corrupted. He should have moved on;
untill he has found,the book that has it all in harmony.
With strong prayers.Love the truth above all books or all pride.
wakeup.
Wakeup,Eve did not die when she ate the fruit she became mortal. Satan speaks like a lawyer and the written word is one of his weapons. He does the same with Scripture but the Holy Spirit speaks the truth even when the words have been corrupted. God's word is always preserved in his Holy Spirit.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2014,22:02) Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 15 2014,11:43) The Jews teach there are only two names in that passage but the certain translators who teach Jesus is God or those that teach Jesus is a god use four names. Bias!
And what about Hebrews 1:8-9, Kerwin?Does my point #1 stand? Or can you scripturally refute it?
Which one please?
(Then, please address #2 on the list.)
Mike,It is an excerpt from a wedding song/poem of contemplation by the sons of Korah to the king. That would be to the King that sat on David's throne at the time was written and applied to each and every king that it was played to afterwards, Psalms 45. God would address it to those whom it was true.
They called a human king god, something you do not want to believe but which those experts studying both Hebrew and Greek seem to agree on.
Mike,
Jesus is not an angel of God or of Satan. The angels were created after the waters, the clouds, the winds, at the least. I see that as earth and you see it as heaven but in either case the angels were created after some things and therefore all things in heaven and on earth could not be created from one of the angels.
Psalm 104:1-4
New International Version (NIV)
Psalm 1041 Praise the Lord, my soul.
Lord my God, you are very great;
you are clothed with splendor and majesty.2 The Lord wraps himself in light as with a garment;
he stretches out the heavens like a tent
3 and lays the beams of his upper chambers on their waters.
He makes the clouds his chariot
and rides on the wings of the wind.
4 He makes winds his messengers,[a]
flames of fire his servants.
Footnotes:Psalm 104:4 Or angels
Mike,
Jesus is the king just like David was in his day and so he can be called god just as David was in his day.
Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2014,10:18) They called a human king god……….
So then, even in YOUR understanding of Hebrews 1:8-9, Jesus was called a god?So that pretty much substantiates my point #1, right?
Please say so for the record.
Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2014,10:26) Mike, Jesus is not an angel of God or of Satan. The angels were created after the waters, the clouds, the winds, at the least.
Yes Kerwin,I am well aware that one of the reasons you don't accept the scriptures that say Jesus is the firstborn of ALL creation, and the one through whom God created all other things in heaven and on earth, is because you have a backwards understanding of the creation account in Genesis.
As far as I know, you are the ONLY one who understands the Genesis account the way you do.
So basically, your FLAWED understanding of one aspect of scriptural teaching is causing you to stumble on a different aspect of scriptural teaching.
But in your own understanding, SOMETHING besides “God Himself” was WITH “God Himself” in the beginning, and God created ALL THINGS through that “something other than God”.
So YOUR OWN understanding contradicts YOUR OWN understanding.
Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 17 2014,03:03) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,09:11) Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2014,07:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,01:02) Carmel. Just as a computer is infected by men,
So also men did to the bible.
But God also is a wise God; He knows that.
Therefore he must have preserved his Word,
against those viruses, So we can still find the truth.wakeup.
Wakeup,No one has infected the Holy Spirit. Don't you believe God is a living God?
Kerwin.Yes that is true therefore the true Word of God
is still in tact with us.Satan did infect the Word of God in the garden.
He said the opposite to God's Words.
He said ; no you will not die,but you will live as gods.He has been doing this since then; to now.
He does not rest;for he knows his time is short.
Dont be ignorent of this. Satan is working double time today.
He has INFILTRATED *ALL* things.His main focus is the true Word of God. But God is greater than he.Satan can not touch the Word God has preserved
for His true children.The lovers of God *IN TRUTH*.*God will draw them* to the truth. No one can have an excuse,
for not finding the truth,by saying that the Word has been corruppted by satan.Sorry God not my fault,I am just a man.1. He has not been seeking.
2.He has been seeking, and swallowed what ever is there
without considering any contradictions.Depending on the
scribes, instead on the HS.
3. He should have moved on with prayers,and not stayed
with a book that is corrupted. He should have moved on;
untill he has found,the book that has it all in harmony.
With strong prayers.Love the truth above all books or all pride.
wakeup.
Wakeup,Eve did not die when she ate the fruit she became mortal. Satan speaks like a lawyer and the written word is one of his weapons. He does the same with Scripture but the Holy Spirit speaks the truth even when the words have been corrupted. God's word is always preserved in his Holy Spirit.
Kerwin.The HS will not come untill you show a genuine heart.
A searching Mind will compare scripture with scripture.
If contradictions occur he will not continue reading that book.
He will find another book.Knowing that satan has infected
many translations. A genuine heart can not ignore that.It all depends on how genuine the spirit is in searching.
How hungry the heart is for truth.wakeup.
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