JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[jammin]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 30 2013,11:40)

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 29 2013,12:54) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2013,08:52) Quote (jammin @ Dec. 28 2013,20:30) Kerwin, Many versions said christ was the Word in jn1:1 and it supports rev19:13. You said no but until now you have no proof. For you to win, you must publish the king kerwin version hahaha Jammin, A word for word translation will not say it because it is not written.  The only cases when a version states it is when the translator inserts his opinion into the passage. No matter what you say, it will not prove your case. Rev 19:13 said christ was the Word of God. John will never contradict himself. Make your own bible and change jn1:1 and rev19:13. Hahaha. And your new heaven and new earth doctrine dont forget to put that in those verses hahaha Jammin, Please! you are well aware that by the time the event John describes in Revelations the word is personified in Jesus.  Even you fellow Trinitarians are aware of that. The word is not a person even though it is personified in Scripture.  Trinitarians even get it but you choose not to. Quote The theological meaning of “word” within Scripture spans a wide theological spectrum. From the divine point of view, it consists of God revealing something about himself through his spoken word, which is ultimately and perfectly personified in his Son, Jesus Christ. In a broader sense, it designates Scripture itself. In contrast, the human word mirrors the human condition: it is limited, fallen, and dependent on divine intervention for restoration and sustenance. I think the source is Trinitarian but they are still correct in many ways. If they would just stop the foolishness of teaching Jesus is God incarnate. Note: word.  I previously posted the from the quote down to Mike.

John did not say in rev19:13 that his name will be called the Word of God. He said his name is the Word of God. That means that the Word of God is a title of christ and it is supported by the jn1:1 verse. Make your own bible haha.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 31 2013,16:24)

Mike, Jesus is the personification of the word of God though he was not before he was conceived in his mother's womb.

And what is the NAME of the PERSON who was personified as the Word BEFORE Jesus was caused to be born from a woman's womb?

Who was it BEFORE Jesus became flesh? Because the Word is definitely being personified long before verse 14, right? (Hint: Read verses 6-13, where you can see the Word being personified as the one through whom all things were made, the true light who came into the world, the one who gave us the right to become children of God, and the one about whom John the Baptist came to testify.)

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,11:17)

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,10:49) T, Quote 1 [count] a : a person who has a lot of a particular quality and who is the perfect example of someone who has that quality — often + of ▪ Your father is the personification of kindness and generosity. [=he is very kind and generous] ▪ He is the personification of evil. I know of not other place where this method of teaching is specifically used but variations of it are used as well as types. K So it could never be applied on words right

T,

Wrong as it can be applied to Jesus who has a lot of qualities of the word of God.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 02 2014,02:04)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,11:17) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,10:49) T, Quote 1 [count] a : a person who has a lot of a particular quality and who is the perfect example of someone who has that quality — often + of ▪ Your father is the personification of kindness and generosity. [=he is very kind and generous] ▪ He is the personification of evil. I know of not other place where this method of teaching is specifically used but variations of it are used as well as types. K So it could never be applied on words right T, Wrong as it can be applied to Jesus who has a lot of qualities of the word of God.

k

you have to prove to us THAT SPOKEN WORDS CAN BECOME FLESH ;IN SCRIPTURES

[Wakeup]

His name was JESUS.
The word made flesh.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,12:10)

His name was JESUS. The word made flesh. wakeup.

W

BUT JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS THE SPEAKING WORDS OF HIS FATHER

SO WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFO FROM

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,06:28)

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 02 2014,02:04) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,11:17) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,10:49) T, Quote 1 [count] a : a person who has a lot of a particular quality and who is the perfect example of someone who has that quality — often + of ▪ Your father is the personification of kindness and generosity. [=he is very kind and generous] ▪ He is the personification of evil. I know of not other place where this method of teaching is specifically used but variations of it are used as well as types. K So it could never be applied on words right T, Wrong as it can be applied to Jesus who has a lot of qualities of the word of God. k you have to prove to us THAT SPOKEN WORDS CAN BECOME FLESH ;IN SCRIPTURES

T,

You are not correctly understanding the definition I gave you.

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,04:25)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,12:10) His name was JESUS. The word made flesh. wakeup. W BUT JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS THE SPEAKING WORDS OF HIS FATHER SO WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFO FROM

T.

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BUT JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS THE SPEAKING WORDS OF HIS FATHER SO WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFO FROM

What I hear my Father say,that I say.
What I see my Father do,that I do.

Even the milk you can't digest.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,02:45)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,04:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,12:10) His name was JESUS. The word made flesh. wakeup. W BUT JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS THE SPEAKING WORDS OF HIS FATHER SO WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFO FROM T. Quote BUT JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS THE SPEAKING WORDS OF HIS FATHER SO WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFO FROM What I hear my Father say,that I say. What I see my Father do,that I do. Even the milk you can't digest. wakeup.

scriptures please

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:22)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,02:45) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,04:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,12:10) His name was JESUS. The word made flesh. wakeup. W BUT JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS THE SPEAKING WORDS OF HIS FATHER SO WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFO FROM T. Quote BUT JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS THE SPEAKING WORDS OF HIS FATHER SO WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFO FROM What I hear my Father say,that I say. What I see my Father do,that I do. Even the milk you can't digest. wakeup. scriptures please

T.

I hope you can understand this.

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,04:11)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:22) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,02:45) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,04:25) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,12:10) His name was JESUS. The word made flesh. wakeup. W BUT JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS THE SPEAKING WORDS OF HIS FATHER SO WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFO FROM T. Quote BUT JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS THE SPEAKING WORDS OF HIS FATHER SO WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFO FROM What I hear my Father say,that I say. What I see my Father do,that I do. Even the milk you can't digest. wakeup. scriptures please T. I hope you can understand this. John 12:49   For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.  John 12:50   And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. wakeup.

w

so you agree that Jesus was not a word or words but a messenger for the words of God ,or a courier of the words of his father ,

and that even though Christ was “the WORD ” of God name given to him by his father when he was created/bring forth,made ,

so being one with them would mean being of the same spirit right YES

Jn 17:11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name—the name you gave me—so that they may be one as we are one.

Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
Jn 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
Jn 17:22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one:

the scriptures are clear of what it mean to be one in Christ and God

[terraricca]

w

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What I hear my Father say,that I say. What I see my Father do,that I do. Even the milk you can't digest. wakeup.

tell me what did Christ said that was not written in the scriptures just a few things

[carmel]

Hi all,

READ THIS 70 YEAR OLD REVELATION WHICH I'VE JUST READ,AND WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT AND SCRUTINIZE IT YOURSELF ACCORDING TO YOUR MATURITY, AND BELIEF OF THE WORDSOMETHING WHICH I ALREADY DID AND I AM MORE CONVINCED THEN BEFORE THAT THE WORD WAS AND IS GOD

God is the Word ….

God's presence ….
Different conveyance of the Word ….

And thus I Am in the midst of you in the Word as I have promised. I won't
leave you on your own and you shall also feel My presence, and so I draw
near to you in the Word, for I Myself Am the Word and anyone who has
My Word can also speak of My presence and feel protected near to Me. I
Myself Am a Spirit Which is not bound to any material form but is strength
and light to the highest degree and Which, due to Its will and Its thinking
ability, has to be addressed as a Being, Which takes effect with love and
wisdom and therefore emanates love and wisdom into eternity. And My
love expresses the strength and the light in a form which you humans can
become aware of, as you are not yet mature enough in order to receive
strength and light in its fundamental substance …. And this expression
is My Word, which I convey to you so that you shall gain maturity …. A
Spirit which is light and strength in itself can in fact only be present in the
form of light and strength, and thus My Word, THE EMANATION OF MYSELF
has to incorporate light and strength within itself, and this characterises
My closeness. And therefore I gave you the promise that I will stay with
you until the end of the world …. by the fact that My spirit is always
with you who want to receive light and strength …. by the fact that My
directly emanated Word is constantly conveyed to you in order to make My
presence known to you. I Am with you …. and even if I don't visibly dwell
among you, you nevertheless have the evidence of My presence in your
hands if you recognise Me in the Word. For I Myself Am the Word …. and
you will constantly receive it as soon as you desire Me and My being close
to you. Thus anyone who recognize me in the Word will also be profoundly happy
that I Am close to him, and all doubt, all fear and all worry will leave him
because he knows that the One is beside him Who will helpfully support
him in every adversity body and soul. Consequently, My will grants
strength and grace, for anyone desiring My Word will open the door to his
heart through which I can enter in order to take abode in it. And I will never
ever leave him again once his will applies to Me and he has recognised Me
in the Word. For the Word is the medium through which I express Myself, through
which the most perfect Spirit of eternity reveals Himself to the imperfect
beings in order to lead them to perfection …. I Am close to you …. So why
do you who have My Word, who receive it directly or through the mouth of
the recipient, still hesitate and worry …. I Am with all of you, because your
desire for My Word demonstrates your love for Me …. And remember that
only the flow of My Word to you gives you the certain proof that I Myself
Am with you. Anyone who does not desire to hear Me does not desire My
presence, his heart does not strive towards Me, for it would long for the
expression of My love, for proof of My presence. Admittedly, the desire for
My Word can certainly vary …. the human being can want to be comforted
and strengthened through spiritual consolation, he can want to enrich his
knowledge of spiritual spheres, he can also think of Me with gratitude
and therefore want to express it by desiring My presence, he can want to
remain with Me in intimate dialogue and accept My Word in his thoughts
…. yet he must always be spiritually minded, then I will also let Myself
be found and his call will draw Me to himself, and I will reveal Myself
through My Word, since otherwise the human being would be unable to
endure My presence. And likewise My Word will be conveyed to him in
different ways …. through the direct working of the spirit within him so
that he will be able to hear My Word himself …. through receiving it from a
direct recipient who proclaims My Word on My instructions, or by way of
mental transmission of knowledge from the spiritual kingdom …. through
reading the Word I convey to earth …. through spiritual conversations with
fellow human beings …. I will always look after heart which desires Me, I
will always be with those who want to hear Me, for I Myself Am the Word,
and thus I Myself dwell amongst people if they listen to My Word with
the sincere will to let Me speak to them. Then I will offer them the bread
of heaven, My flesh and My blood …. And if they thus eat and drink Me
Myself they have to be most intimately united with Me …. if they accept
My Word in profound faith that I Am the Word Itself they will accept Me
in their hearts and I will constantly please them with My presence …. For
I gave you the promise that I will stay with you until the end of the world,
and every Word of My promise will come true, because My Word is and
will remain the truth for all eternity  ….
Amen

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[Wakeup]

Quote (carmel @ Jan. 03 2014,17:37)

Hi all, READ THIS 70 YEAR OLD REVELATION WHICH I'VE JUST READ,AND WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT AND SCRUTINIZE IT YOURSELF ACCORDING TO YOUR MATURITY, AND BELIEF OF THE WORDSOMETHING WHICH I ALREADY DID AND I AM MORE CONVINCED THEN BEFORE THAT THE WORD WAS AND IS GOD God is the Word …. God's presence …. Different conveyance of the Word …. And thus I Am in the midst of you in the Word as I have promised. I won't leave you on your own and you shall also feel My presence, and so I draw near to you in the Word, for I Myself Am the Word and anyone who has My Word can also speak of My presence and feel protected near to Me. I Myself Am a Spirit Which is not bound to any material form but is strength and light to the highest degree and Which, due to Its will and Its thinking ability, has to be addressed as a Being, Which takes effect with love and wisdom and therefore emanates love and wisdom into eternity. And My love expresses the strength and the light in a form which you humans can become aware of, as you are not yet mature enough in order to receive strength and light in its fundamental substance …. And this expression is My Word, which I convey to you so that you shall gain maturity …. A Spirit which is light and strength in itself can in fact only be present in the form of light and strength, and thus My Word, THE EMANATION OF MYSELF has to incorporate light and strength within itself, and this characterises My closeness. And therefore I gave you the promise that I will stay with you until the end of the world …. by the fact that My spirit is always with you who want to receive light and strength …. by the fact that My directly emanated Word is constantly conveyed to you in order to make My presence known to you. I Am with you …. and even if I don't visibly dwell among you, you nevertheless have the evidence of My presence in your hands if you recognise Me in the Word. For I Myself Am the Word …. and you will constantly receive it as soon as you desire Me and My being close to you. Thus anyone who recognize me in the Word will also be profoundly happy that I Am close to him, and all doubt, all fear and all worry will leave him because he knows that the One is beside him Who will helpfully support him in every adversity body and soul. Consequently, My will grants strength and grace, for anyone desiring My Word will open the door to his heart through which I can enter in order to take abode in it. And I will never ever leave him again once his will applies to Me and he has recognised Me in the Word. For the Word is the medium through which I express Myself, through which the most perfect Spirit of eternity reveals Himself to the imperfect beings in order to lead them to perfection …. I Am close to you …. So why do you who have My Word, who receive it directly or through the mouth of the recipient, still hesitate and worry …. I Am with all of you, because your desire for My Word demonstrates your love for Me …. And remember that only the flow of My Word to you gives you the certain proof that I Myself Am with you. Anyone who does not desire to hear Me does not desire My presence, his heart does not strive towards Me, for it would long for the expression of My love, for proof of My presence. Admittedly, the desire for My Word can certainly vary …. the human being can want to be comforted and strengthened through spiritual consolation, he can want to enrich his knowledge of spiritual spheres, he can also think of Me with gratitude and therefore want to express it by desiring My presence, he can want to remain with Me in intimate dialogue and accept My Word in his thoughts …. yet he must always be spiritually minded, then I will also let Myself be found and his call will draw Me to himself, and I will reveal Myself through My Word, since otherwise the human being would be unable to endure My presence. And likewise My Word will be conveyed to him in different ways …. through the direct working of the spirit within him so that he will be able to hear My Word himself …. through receiving it from a direct recipient who proclaims My Word on My instructions, or by way of mental transmission of knowledge from the spiritual kingdom …. through reading the Word I convey to earth …. through spiritual conversations with fellow human beings …. I will always look after heart which desires Me, I will always be with those who want to hear Me, for I Myself Am the Word, and thus I Myself dwell amongst people if they listen to My Word with the sincere will to let Me speak to them. Then I will offer them the bread of heaven, My flesh and My blood …. And if they thus eat and drink Me Myself they have to be most intimately united with Me …. if they accept My Word in profound faith that I Am the Word Itself they will accept Me in their hearts and I will constantly please them with My presence …. For I gave you the promise that I will stay with you until the end of the world, and every Word of My promise will come true, because My Word is and will remain the truth for all eternity  …. Amen Peace and love in Jesus Charles

Carmel.

I like that.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

charles

nice but no, mix up the written words and THE WORD of God as the first born over all creation ,

[mikeboll64]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,20:54)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,04:11) T. I hope you can understand this. John 12:49   For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.  John 12:50   And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. wakeup. w so you agree that Jesus was not a word or words but a messenger for the words of God ,or a courier of the words of his father ,

Seems to me that Pierre understands it just fine, Wakeup.

If Jesus was LITERALLY the spoken words OF God, then how could Jesus SPEAK the words of God to us?

Also, if the LITERAL words of God were what became flesh, then Jesus wouldn't be able to SPEAK the words of God, for God would have no more words, since His words were busy dwelling in a flesh body.

It's obvious that Jesus is a being separate from God, who speaks God's words to us. He is therefore given as one of his titles, “the Word of God”. It means he is God's main spokesperson – not the actual words that came out of God's mouth.

Similarly, the King of Abyssinia also had a personal spokesman who had the title Kal Hatze – which means “the Word of the King”. And just like in the case of Jesus, the Word of the King of Abyssinia was not literally WORDS that the king spoke. He was instead an individual living entity who spoke the words of the king to others.

[mikeboll64]

Kerwin? Last post on page 1089?

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 04 2014,04:40)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,20:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,04:11) T. I hope you can understand this. John 12:49   For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.  John 12:50   And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. wakeup. w so you agree that Jesus was not a word or words but a messenger for the words of God ,or a courier of the words of his father , Seems to me that Pierre understands it just fine, Wakeup. If Jesus was LITERALLY the spoken words OF God, then how could Jesus SPEAK the words of God to us? Also, if the LITERAL words of God were what became flesh, then Jesus wouldn't be able to SPEAK the words of God, for God would have no more words, since His words were busy dwelling in a flesh body. It's obvious that Jesus is a being separate from God, who speaks God's words to us.  He is therefore given as one of his titles, “the Word of God”.  It means he is God's main spokesperson – not the actual words that came out of God's mouth. Similarly, the King of Abyssinia also had a personal spokesman who had the title Kal Hatze – which means “the Word of the King”.  And just like in the case of Jesus, the Word of the King of Abyssinia was not literally WORDS that the king spoke.  He was instead an individual living entity who spoke the words of the king to others.

Mike B.

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If Jesus was LITERALLY the spoken words OF God, then how could Jesus SPEAK the words of God to us?

BECAUSE HE IS THE WORD OF GOD.
BECAUSE THE WORDS CAN NOT COME OUT UNLESS GOD SAYS IT.

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Also, if the LITERAL words of God were what became flesh, then Jesus wouldn't be able to SPEAK the words of God, for God would have no more words, since His words were busy dwelling in a flesh body.

THIS IS WHERE MOST FAILED TO UNDERSTAND.
THE WORD OF GOD, FROM THE BEGINNING CAN NOT SPEAK UNLESS GOD WANTS THE WORD TO SPEAK.
ONES MOUTH CAN NOT SPEAK UNLESS THE PERSON WANTS TO SPEAK.

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It's obvious that Jesus is a being separate from God, who speaks God's words to us. He is therefore given as one of his titles, “the Word of God”. It means he is God's main spokesperson – not the actual words that came out of God's mouth.

THIS WOULD BE AGAINST SCRIPTURE.
FOR SCRIPTURES SAYS THAT THE WORD WAS FROM
EVERLASTING. HE WAS NOT CREATED AT BIRTH.
HE WAS BROUHT FORTH BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.
HE HAD GLORY WITH GOD BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.
HE IS NOT A NEW COMER.

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Similarly, the King of Abyssinia also had a personal spokesman who had the title Kal Hatze – which means “the Word of the King”. And just like in the case of Jesus, the Word of the King of Abyssinia was not literally WORDS that the king spoke. He was instead an individual living entity who spoke the words of the king to others.

THE KING OF ABYSSINIA IS NOT GOD.
NO MAN CAN GIVE HIS OWN WORD A FORM IN HIS OWN IMAGE. HE NEEDS TO HAVE ANOTHER PERSON TO ACT ON HIS BEHALF.

GOD'S WORD IS NOT ANOTHER TO ACT ON HIS BEHALF.
HE IS PART OF HIMSELF.

wakeup.

[kerwin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 01 2014,21:06)

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 31 2013,16:24) Mike, Jesus is the personification of the word of God though he was not before he was conceived in his mother's womb. And what is the NAME of the PERSON who was personified as the Word BEFORE Jesus was caused to be born from a woman's womb? Who was it BEFORE Jesus became flesh?  Because the Word is definitely being personified long before verse 14, right?  (Hint:  Read verses 6-13, where you can see the Word being personified as the one through whom all things were made, the true light who came into the world, the one who gave us the right to become children of God, and the one about whom John the Baptist came to testify.)

Mike,

I am using the AV of the KJV and I think there is a difference between it and the NIV version of John 1:6-13.

John 1:6-13
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Yes, there is an apparent  difference in verse nine.

John 1:6-13
New International Version (NIV)

6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

I am going to go by the NIV as the English is more understandable and it may mean the same as the AV of the KJV's words.

verses 6-8 are speaking of the Light personified in Jesus.  verse 9 and 10 are a little confusing as one states the light is coming into the world and the other that was already in the world.  The light that is in the world is personified in Jesus so the light that is coming into the world would possibly be the reception of his message.  verses 11-13 is past tense and the light would be both personified in Jesus and would be his message.  Jesus did not speak his message prior to being immersed by John the Baptist so it must be the writers past.  That would mean that the light was coming into the world and was in the world at that same time.  That may mean I am mistaken about the light that is in the world being personified in Jesus as he had ascended to heaven by that time.

All this reveals is that Light is Light and the Word is the Word and both are personified in Jesus after he was conceived.

[kerwin]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 03 2014,01:57)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,06:28) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 02 2014,02:04) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,11:17) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 01 2014,10:49) T, Quote 1 [count] a : a person who has a lot of a particular quality and who is the perfect example of someone who has that quality — often + of ▪ Your father is the personification of kindness and generosity. [=he is very kind and generous] ▪ He is the personification of evil. I know of not other place where this method of teaching is specifically used but variations of it are used as well as types. K So it could never be applied on words right T, Wrong as it can be applied to Jesus who has a lot of qualities of the word of God. k you have to prove to us THAT SPOKEN WORDS CAN BECOME FLESH ;IN SCRIPTURES T, You are not correctly understanding the definition I gave you.

T,

Do you understand that the word was made flesh = the word started to be personified by Jesus?

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