JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

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  • #361123
    kerwin
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    Kerwin im still waiting for your version that says God is an aspect of the word


    Jammin,

    You need to start reading what I write as looking foolish does not fit you.


    Ill repeat kerwin. Where is your version that says God is an aspect of the word in jn1.1 .can you give one?


    Jammin,

    Read what I have written to you on the past as I am tired of repeating myself.


    Therefore you cnt give me versions. It is purely imagination. Repent and be baptized


    Jammin,

    Stop speaking without knowledge and go back and read what I wrote to you, so that you what you are talking about.


    you did not give me version.
    you can try reading your old post.


    Jammin,

    Until you choose to read what I write I see no purpose in communicating with you on this issue.

    #361191
    Wakeup
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    Wakeup,

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    If you find anything in contradiction in the kjv,
    it's most likely you,not the translation.

    wakeup.

    Then why are you not an Anglican as you think they are carried along by the spirit.


    Kerwin.

    Why should I be an anglican?

    I found NO contradictions in the kjv.
    Why can't I?
    Because all is in harmony.

    If you find any contradictions: that would be your
    interpretation of the scriptures,
    not the scriptures.

    wakeup.


    w

    where are the 7000 times the name in the KJV ???

    you have only spelled 7 seven times ,so you are missing about 6993 of them

    or are you so blind of not seeing that ???

    and call others liar ,not good


    T.

    Are you trying to proof that the kjv is fake, because it did not mention Gods name 7000times? The NT did not mentioned God's name 7000 times.
    You wont hesitate to make God's name too common,would you? Just like tom,dick,and,harry.
    His name is blasphemed everyday and night by false teachers.
    Using God's name for own gain.

    I have no problem even if God's name is only mentioned
    ones in the kj. That's not a problem to me.I know his name is JHWH,but only, one of his many names.He only needs to introduce His name to me once,not 7000times.
    What I'm seeking is harmony in the book.

    Truth is the treasure I am after;and the kjv has given me that.I dont need to go shopping for more bibles,because I can not find what i'm looking for: in the one bible,I have found the whole truth.

    YOU STILL HAVE TO SHOP AROUND TO FIND WHAT YOU WANT.AND YOU WILL CONTUNUE SHOPPING,BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT FIND IT.

    wakeup.

    #361212
    jammin
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    Kerwin,
    You dont want to answer my question and now you want to escape? I know you cant me give me versions. Repent and be baptized

    #361219
    journey42
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    terraricca,Nov. wrote:

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     where are the 7000 times the name in the KJV ???

    Pierre

    Is his name 7000 times in your bible or should I say bibles?

    #361221
    Wakeup
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    Wakeup,

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    If you find anything in contradiction in the kjv,
    it's most likely you,not the translation.

    wakeup.

    Then why are you not an Anglican as you think they are carried along by the spirit.


    Kerwin.

    Why should I be an anglican?

    I found NO contradictions in the kjv.
    Why can't I?
    Because all is in harmony.

    If you find any contradictions: that would be your
    interpretation of the scriptures,
    not the scriptures.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    So you are saying that a number of Satan's servants translated the Scripture and yet chose not to corrupt it in any way but when it comes to other versions they chose to corrupt them.  

    The reason you have found no errors is that you don't acknowledge them when they exist.   It does not care if there are errors as the Spirit is what teaches the truth.  

    I do believe that the Church of England's opposition to ghosts caused them to interpret certain words so as to obscure the mention of ghosts in Scripture.  Then their belief in hell led them to lump references to the land of the dead together with the lake of fire all under the same name even though they are two different places.  Then they translate Passover to Easter when it occurs after Jesus' death but not before.  These all can be overcome by those listen to the Spirit but not but those that love the lack of knowledge.


    Kerwin.

    You make your choices,and do what you have to do.
    No one can make that choice for you.

    BTW; Easter is celebrated by the Romans
    long before Christ: it is to celebrate the goddes ester.
    The christian world has adopted it, to celebrate the death,
    and resurrection of Christ.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    The Koine Greek Word translated Easter is the Hebrew holiday of Passover and not Roman Easter, if the later even existed.  The Translators of the AKJV celebrated Easter as a Christian holiday.   It was a choice made because of the translators doctrinal bias.  The Catholics chose to change Easter(Passover) from the time it was celebrated to the current period some centuries ago, and possibly before it was called Easter by English speakers.


    Kerwin

    You are filled with worldly knowledge; There is no room for spiritual knowledge.

    Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; **intending after Easter** to bring him forth to the people.

    AFTER THE ROMANS HAVE FININISHED THEIR CELEBRATION.
    (EASTER/OSTRE/ASTER/ASTEROTH/ESTER.
    SHE IS THE OWL WORSHIPPED BY LEADERS TODAY.

    (THE BOHEMIAN GROVE)

    Isaiah 34:13 And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of **dragons**, **and a court for owls**.

    Isaiah 34:14 The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the *satyr* shall cry to his fellow; the **screech owl** also shall rest there, and find for **herself** a place of rest.

    wakeup.

    #361228
    terraricca
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     where are the 7000 times the name in the KJV ???

    Pierre

    Is his name 7000 times in your bible or should I say bibles?


    J42

    IT IS IN each of THREE BIBLES THAT I HAVE BUT THE 7000 NUMBER IS NOMINAL IT IS SOMETHING BETWEEN 6000 AND 7000 TIMES OR MORE THIS IS FROM THE STUDIES I DID LONG AGO BUT THAT IS NOT THE IMPORTANT THING WHAT IS ,IS THAT THEY ARE MISSING IN THE KJV ,WHY ???

    #361249
    kerwin
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    Quote (jammin @ Nov. 05 2013,16:54)
    Kerwin,
    You dont want to answer my question and now you want to escape? I know you cant me give me versions. Repent and be baptized


    Jammin,

    I want you to start reading my posts so that your questions are up to date on what is going on. It is clear you are not reading them and I am wasting my time posting them.

    #361250
    kerwin
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    Wakeup,

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    You are filled with worldly knowledge; There is no room for spiritual knowledge.

    These words here tell me you have no idea what you are talking about. The correct definitions are.

    Worldly knowledge = knowledge based on sinful principles.
    Spiritual knowledge = knowledge based on righteous principles.

    Is knowledge of what a word means sinful. The answer is no. Stop embracing the lack of knowledge while claiming you do so for God. Did you not understand the parable of the talents?

    Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; **intending after Easter** to bring him forth to the people.

    You do not even bother testing these things people tell you or you would know Herod was a Jew and zealous one at that. The Jews actually liked him. He was not one to celebrate a pagan holiday. You were lied to and because you chose not to test the spirits of it you were deceived.

    Another lie is that there was a Roman Holiday Easter. There is no evidence of it.

    You are instructed to test what you believe.

    #361266
    Wakeup
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     where are the 7000 times the name in the KJV ???

    Pierre

    Is his name 7000 times in your bible or should I say bibles?


    J42

    IT IS IN THREE BIBLES THAT I HAVE BUT THE 7000 NUMBER IS NOMINAL IT IS SOMETHING BETWEEN 6000 AND 7000 TIMES OR MORE THIS IS FROM THE STUDIES I DID LONG AGO BUT THAT IS NOT THE IMPORTANT THING WHAT IS ,IS THAT THEY ARE MISSING IN THE KJV ,WHY ???


    T.

    Can you show us those names pleae?

    wakeup.

    #361267
    Wakeup
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    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,04:38)
    Wakeup,

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    You are filled with worldly knowledge; There is no room for spiritual knowledge.

    These words here tell me you have no idea what you are talking about.   The correct definitions are.

    Worldly knowledge = knowledge based on sinful principles.
    Spiritual knowledge = knowledge based on righteous principles.

    Is knowledge of what a word means sinful.  The answer is no.  Stop embracing the lack of knowledge while claiming you do so for God.  Did you not understand the parable of the talents?

    Acts 12:4   And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; **intending after Easter** to bring him forth to the people.

    You do not even bother testing these things people tell you or you would know Herod was a Jew and zealous one at that.  The Jews actually liked him.  He was not one to celebrate a pagan holiday.   You were lied to and because you chose not to test the spirits of it you were deceived.

    Another lie is that there was a Roman Holiday Easter.  There is no evidence of it.

    You are instructed to test what you believe.


    Kewin.

    Herod had an arab father.
    He was appointed by ceasar to rule over the jews.
    He is under supervision of Rome.
    Jews dont celebrate the goddes ostre.

    wakeup.

    #361268
    terraricca
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     where are the 7000 times the name in the KJV ???

    Pierre

    Is his name 7000 times in your bible or should I say bibles?


    J42

    IT IS IN THREE BIBLES THAT I HAVE BUT THE 7000 NUMBER IS NOMINAL IT IS SOMETHING BETWEEN 6000 AND 7000 TIMES OR MORE THIS IS FROM THE STUDIES I DID LONG AGO BUT THAT IS NOT THE IMPORTANT THING WHAT IS ,IS THAT THEY ARE MISSING IN THE KJV ,WHY ???


    T.

    Can you show us those names pleae?

    wakeup.


    w

    just look in your KJV and where it says “LORD ” YOU SHOULD HAVE THE NAME OF GOD “JEHOVAH ” OR ” YAHWEH ” BUT YOU KNOW THAT ALREADY ;you just can accepted that your KJV is corrupted just like all the others ,and so try to defend what cannot be defended ,history is there ,and cannot be change,

    #361290
    jammin
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    Kerwin,
    You dont want to answer my question and now you want to escape? I know you cant me give me versions. Repent and be baptized


    Jammin,

    I want you to start reading my posts so that your questions are up to date on what is going on.  It is clear you are not reading them and I am wasting my time posting them.


    i read your post and you gave me no version. i dont need your explanation. i need versions. do you understand?

    #361291
    kerwin
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    Kerwin,
    You dont want to answer my question and now you want to escape? I know you cant me give me versions. Repent and be baptized


    Jammin,

    I want you to start reading my posts so that your questions are up to date on what is going on.  It is clear you are not reading them and I am wasting my time posting them.


    i read your post and you gave me no version. i dont need your explanation. i need versions. do you understand?


    Jammin,

    Go back and read them again as I already admitted “aspect” was the wrong English word to express the ideas I wrote out. The correct word is “like” as God is like his Word in that they are both divine. Your question revealed you were not keeping up with the conversation.

    #361294
    terraricca
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     where are the 7000 times the name in the KJV ???

    Pierre

    Is his name 7000 times in your bible or should I say bibles?


    j42

    you can go to the BIBLE OF JERUSALEM ” VERSION 1964 -+

    English OR FRENCH SAME THING

    ~THE BOOK OF YAHWEH~
    The Original Bible

    The House of Yahweh – P.O. Box 2498 – Abilene, Texas 79604 USA
    A HOUSE OF YAHWEH®TM Publication COPYRIGHTED,© 2004 All Rights Reserved

    Book of YahwehNearly everyone can agree that the Bible may be the single most important and influential book ever written. Nearly every home has a Bible and millions of people read their Bible daily seeking inspiration and hope. However, very few people ever question the accuracy of their Bibles.

    Leading Bible scholars admit that today's translations are quite different from the original writings. They have found more than 20,000 errors in the most popular translations. In many of today's versions, words and phrases have been added or deleted, making it nearly impossible to understand the true meaning of many crucial verses.

    The Bible was first written in Hebrew, and then translated into Aramaic, then Greek, then Latin and finally to English. When translated from one language to another footnotes were added. The copyists, scribes, and translators would write footnotes in their manuscripts of the Bible which would later be included in the text by other copyists.

    Besides these additions, other words in the ancient Hebrew manuscripts were either left untranslated or completely removed. Many archeological discoveries in the past 30 years or so have shed great light on the vast differences between the original writings and the many English translations that flood the market. The most amazing of these discoveries involves the very Name of the Creator.

    The Name Of The Creator Unearthed

    The first of these archeological findings was discovered during excavations in Arad, Israel that took place during the 1960s and 1970s. Fragments of pottery were found at an Israelite sanctuary which dated back to the days of King Solomon. Inscribed in Hebrew on one of these is a reference to the “House of Yahweh”. This was reported in The Jerusalem Post in an article entitled “Unearthing the Land” which appeared June 29,1973.

    Here is an excerpt from that article and a fragment of the pottery:

    fragment pottery “Mostly used for business transactions, these humble documents are a mine of historic information. At Arad, excavated by Yohanan Aharoni, reference is made to a 'House of YHWH'”.

    ancient silver scroll The second of these finds was the very oldest Scriptural text ever found, dating back almost 2,600 years. This was found in a tiny silver amulet which contained a Seventh Century b.c.e. extract from the Book of Numbers (6:24-26), the Priestly Blessing. The rolled up amulet was part of a treasure hoard found by a Tel Aviv University archeologist in a First Temple Period family tomb in Jerusalem, Israel. When this amulet was written, the Temple of Solomon still stood, the heirs of King David still ruled on the throne, and the Dead Sea Scrolls would not be written for another four hundred years.

    It was three years after its discovery before this fragile amulet could be unrolled by technical experts at the Israeli Museum. On this amulet the Name of Yahweh could be clearly read in the original Hebrew language. Complete details of this magnificent find can be read in the June 28, 1986 and the August 9, 1986 issues of The Jerusalem Post, and the June, 1987 issue of The Readers Digest.

    ……. The Work Begins …….

    An abundance of data has been published for many years, documenting the facts concerning the Name Yahweh, but this was generally confined to footnotes, scriptural commentaries, dictionaries, encyclopedias, lexicons, and concordances. The information in these books all pointed to one fact; that the Creator's Name is Yahweh and that this Name was written exclusively in the most ancient manuscripts of the Bible. This fact is openly admitted, not only among scholars of the scriptures, but also among religious denominations as well.

    Here are just a few excerpts from our early research on this subject.

    Proof About The Name Of Yahweh

    Joseph Rotherham, in The Emphasized Bible, A New Translation, the Standard Publishing Co., 1902, says this in the “Introduction, The Incommunicable Name:”

    The Name Suppressed: THE FACT
    It is willingly admitted that the suppression has not been absolute; at least so far as Hebrew and English are concerned. The Name, in its four essential letters (YHWH), was reverently transcribed by the Hebrew copyist, and therefore was necessarily placed before the eye of the Hebrew reader. The latter, however, was instructed not to pronounce it, but to utter instead a less sacred name—Adonay or Elohim. In this way The Name was not suffered to reach the ear of the listener. To that degree it was suppressed. The Septuagint, or ancient Greek version (LXX), made the concealment complete by regularly substituting Kurios; as the Vulgate, in like manner, employed Dominus; both Kurios and Dominus having at the same time their own proper service to render as correctly answering to the Hebrew Adonay, confessedly meaning 'Lord'. The English versions do nearly the same things, in rendering The Name as LORD, and occasionally GOD; these terms also having their own rightful office to fill as fitly representing the Hebrew titles Adonay and Elohim and El, so that the Tetragrammaton is nearly hidden in our public English versions. 'Confusion', then, is a term not a whit too strong to apply to these varying devices. No wonder that even intelligent and educated people are continually forgetting what they have heard or read concerning so involved a matter.

    Rotherham then gives reasons why the Name Yahweh must be restored, and from now on retained in the Scriptures:

    1. Because its suppression was a mistake. So grave a mistake cannot be corrected too soon. An unwarrantable liberty has been taken; the path of humility is to retrace our steps. The facts have only to be known to justify this verdict, and to vindicate the propriety of not employing it in a new and independent translation.

    Unger's Bible Dictionary, Merrill F. Unger, 1957, page 1177, says:
    Yahweh (ya´we). The Hebrew tetragrammaton (YHWH) traditionally pronounced Jehovah (q.v.) is now known to be correctly vocalized yahwe. New inscriptional evidence from the second and first millennia B.C. point toward this fact.

    Wycliffe Bible Encyclopedia, 1975, Vol. 2, page 690, tell us:
    The Name par excellence for the Creator of Israel is Yahweh, found 6,823 times in the OT. Through Israyl's deliverance from bondage in Egypt, adoption as a nation, and guidance to the Promised Land, the Redeemer-Creator is especially known by this Name.

    The Interpreter's Dictionary, 1962, Vol. 4, page 923, says:
    Yahweh -The vocalization of the four consonants of the Israelite name
    for the Creator, which scholars believe to approximate the original pronunciation.

    James Moffatt, in his translation, The Bible: A New Translation, 1935, informs us in his introduction:
    Strictly speaking this ought to be rendered `Yahweh' which is familiar to modern readers in the erroneous form of 'Jehovah'. Were this version intended for students of the original, there would be no hesitation whatever in printing 'Yahweh'.

    The Encyclopedia Judaica, 1972, Vol. 7, page 680, states emphatically:
    The true pronunciation of the Name YHWH was never lost. Several early Greek writers of the Christian Church testify that the Name was pronounced 'YAHWEH'.

    ancient textThe personal Name of the Creator is written in the Hebrew scriptures with the four consonants YHWH, and is referred to as the Tetragrammaton. At least until the destruction of the First Temple in 586 b.c.e., Yahweh's Name was pronounced regularly with its proper vowels, as is clear from the Lachish Letters, written shortly before that day. However, at least by the third century b.c.e., the pronunciation of the Name Yahweh was avoided, and Adonai, 'the Lord', was substituted for it.

    The Century Bible, Vol. 1, pages 90-91, tells us:
    Some time after the return from the Captivity, and before the beginning of the Christian era, the Jews came to believe that the Holy Name YAHWEH was too sacred to be uttered on ordinary occasions. It was said to be pronounced by the High Priest on the Day of Atonement. At other times, when any one read or quoted aloud from what is called the Old Testament, the word `Adonay, 'Lord', was usually substituted for YAHWEH, and similarly the LXX (Septuagint Version) has Kurios, the Vulgate dominus, and the E.V. LORD, where the Hebrew has YAHWEH. Hebrew was originally written without vowels, but when the vowel points were added, the vowels of Adonay or Elohim were written with YAHWEH, as a direction that these words were to be read instead of the word whose consonants were YAHWEH; thus we find the combinations YeHoWaH and YeHoWiH. At the Reformation, the former being the more usual, was sometimes used as the Name of the (Mighty One) of Israyl, and owing to ignorance of its history was misread as Jehovah, a form which has established itself in English, but does not give the pronunciation of the Holy Name it represents.

    The Hiding Of Yahweh's Name

    The Masorites, Hebrew scribes during the Middle Ages, who added the vowel points to the accepted Hebrew text, did not remove Yahweh's Name from the scriptures. They did, however, point the four letter Name of Yahweh with the vowel marks of the titles Elohim or Adonai. However, when the scriptures were translated into Aramaic, Greek, Latin, and later on, English, Lord was substituted for the Name Yahweh.

    Unger's Bible Dictionary, on page 665, says:
    Lord (Hebrew, Adon), an early word denoting ownership; hence, absolute control. It is not properly a divine title. The Jews, out of a superstitious reverence for the Name Yahweh, always, in reading, pronounce Adonai (lord) whereYahweh is written.

    Smith's Bible Dictionary, 1872 Edition, states the following:
    The substitution of the word Lord is most (sad); for, while it in no way represents the meaning of the Sacred Name, the mind has constantly to guard against a confusion with its lower uses, and, above all, the direct personal hearing of the Name on the revelation of YAHWEH…is injuriously out of sight.

    The Decision
    That Changed Publishing History

    Some conscientious scholars have made meager attempts to restore the Name of the Creator in the Holy Scriptures. Their efforts have been much appreciated by serious Bible students. Their efforts to correct these mistakes have brought about new inroads, leading to deeper studies of the scriptures. However, the conscientious scholars, whose work is now being studied worldwide, knew their work was very insignificant, compared to the corrections that were needed. The words that Joseph Rotherham wrote in 1902 seemed to speak directly to us.

    1. Because its suppression was a mistake. So grave a mistake cannot be corrected too soon. An unwarrantable liberty has been taken; the path of humility is to retrace our steps. The facts have only to be known to justify this verdict, and to vindicate the propriety of not employing it in a new and independent translation.

    We decided to go far beyond all other conscientious scholars and produce a completely new and independent translation, restoring Yahweh's Name to the Holy Scriptures.

    We were determined to produce a Bible that would remain as faithful to the original writings as humanly possible. Above all else, we wanted a Bible that we would look forward to reading again and again—a book that we could treasure for years to come.

    In producing The Book of Yahweh, every known biblical reference source available was used, including many rare and out of print books and facsimile copies of the most ancient manuscripts.

    More Discoveries Validate Our Work!

    As we labored to produce this groundbreaking and potentially controversial work, new archeological discoveries were made that actually validated what we were doing.

    ivory pomegranateThe Name of Yahweh Engraved on an Ivory Pomegranate Decoration
    Biblical Archaeology Review, Jan.-Feb. 1990, p. 49
    BAR recently published a beautiful carved ivory pomegranate with an important inscription on it. As partially reconstructed, the engraved inscription around the neck of the pomegranate reads as follows: “Belonging to the House of Yahweh Holy to the Priests.” Based on this reading, many scholars have concluded that the ivory pomegranate originally came from the Jerusalem Temple constructed by King Solomon.

    clay receiptThree-shekel receipt provides evidence of King Solomon's Temple
    November 3, 1997
    NEW YORK (AP) — Talk about holding on to a receipt.
    A recently discovered piece of pottery recording a donation to the “House of Yahweh” may contain the oldest mention outside the Bible of King Solomon's Temple. The 3½-by-4-inch artifact is nearly 3,000 years old, dating to a time when kings sent messages inscribed on pottery.

    deadseaYahweh's Name In The Dead Sea Scrolls
    This photo of Psalms 119:59-64 in the Dead Sea Scrolls which are a collection of Hebrew Scriptures that date back 2000 years. Note Yahweh's Name, indicated by the arrow, in the ancient Hebrew script while the rest of the text is in a more modern Hebrew that was used at the time.

    Yahweh's Name Found in Earliest Copies of the Septuagint

    Here are two examples of Yahweh's Name in ancient copies of the Septuagint. The Septuagint is a 3rd to 2nd Century b.c.e. Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures. The fragments shown are evidence that the Septuagint originally contained the name Yahweh.

    Septuagine-1This example is an ancient fragment of the Septuagint dated between 50 b.c.e. and 50 c.e.(a.d.). If this dating is correct, it would have been written near the time of the Savior's ministry. Yahweh's Name is indicated with the large black arrow.

    Swptuagint-2Notice that 'Yahweh' is written in the ancient Hebrew (Paleo-Hebrew) script. This example is an ancient fragment of the Septuagint dating to the First Century c.e. (a.d.). This fragment contains parts of Job Chapter 42.

    Importance Placed On The Names!

    Throughout the Holy Scriptures, one can read of the importance placed on the Name of Yahweh. Knowing and using Yahweh's Name in worship and study has been intensely important for each generation. It is no less important for this generation and for future generations to understand the message of the original ancient writings.

    In striving to produce the most accurate Bible ever, we have restor
    ed Yahweh's Name in all the Scriptures in which it was inspired to be written. We have also replaced Yahweh's Name in each of the hundreds of places where it was used in compound with place names, and within personal names.

    According to the original writings, the Name of the one identified as the Savior is Yahshua, a compound Hebrew name meaning Yahweh is salvation.

    Most people are not familiar with the Name Yahshua, and instead use the name Jesus. However, scholars openly admit that the name Jesus replaced the original Name Yahshua in the Scriptures.

    New Catholic Encyclopedia, Vol. 7, page 970, shows these facts:

    Jesus (The Name): In English, the name Jesus is a transliteration of the Latin form, Iesus, which represents the Greek form Iesous, of the Hebrew name Yesua (Yeshua). The latter is a late form, by vowel dissimilation, of the Name Yosua (Yahshua).

    In restoring the original names to their rightful places, we discovered that even the name of this wonderful book comes from the original writings.

    Isayah 34:16
    “Search out The Book Of Yahweh and read….”

    Following are only a few of the many Bible verses in which the use of Yahweh's Name gives a profoundly different meaning to the verse compared to using the title Lord.

    Take a look at these examples from The Book Of Yahweh and compare them to the translation you use. Please keep in mind that we are dealing with a proper name and not just a title.

    Proverbs 30:4—
    Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound up the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His Name? And what is the Name of His sons? Tell me, if you know!

    Jeremiah 33:2—
    This is what Yahweh says Who made the earth, Yahweh Who formed it to establish it—Yahweh is His Name.

    Exodus 3:15—
    Yahweh also said to Mosheh: This also shall you say to the children of Israyl; Yahweh, the Heavenly Father of your fathers, the Mighty One of Abraham, the Mighty One of Isaac, and the Mighty One of Yaaqob, has sent me to you. This is MY NAME forever, and this is MY MEMORIAL: the Name by which I am to be remembered by, from generation to generation, for all generations.

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    Matthew 6:9—
    After this manner; you should pray, Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed is Your Name.

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    Surely righteousness and mercy will follow us all the days of our lives; and we will dwell in The House of Yahweh forever!

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    Let men know that You, Whose Name alone is Yahweh, are the Supreme Head over all the earth.

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    #361295
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,04:54)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,04:38)
    Wakeup,

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    You are filled with worldly knowledge; There is no room for spiritual knowledge.

    These words here tell me you have no idea what you are talking about.   The correct definitions are.

    Worldly knowledge = knowledge based on sinful principles.
    Spiritual knowledge = knowledge based on righteous principles.

    Is knowledge of what a word means sinful.  The answer is no.  Stop embracing the lack of knowledge while claiming you do so for God.  Did you not understand the parable of the talents?

    Acts 12:4   And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; **intending after Easter** to bring him forth to the people.

    You do not even bother testing these things people tell you or you would know Herod was a Jew and zealous one at that.  The Jews actually liked him.  He was not one to celebrate a pagan holiday.   You were lied to and because you chose not to test the spirits of it you were deceived.

    Another lie is that there was a Roman Holiday Easter.  There is no evidence of it.

    You are instructed to test what you believe.


    Kewin.

    Herod had an arab father.
    He was appointed by ceasar to rule over the jews.
    He is under supervision of Rome.
    Jews dont celebrate the goddes ostre.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I do not know where you hear these things as King Herod was a member of the Herodian Dynasty, all of who were Jews. The father of the head of that line, Antigonus II Mattathias, was an Edomite that was converted to Judaism. Herod Agrippa's father was Aristobulus IV of that line. None were Arabs.

    He was given his position by Rome and he was under their authority.

    The Koine Greek word the KJV translators translated Easter is Passover, the name of the Jewish Holiday.

    I am glad to help you test the spirit of what you have heard.

    #361313
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,13:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 06 2013,04:54)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 06 2013,04:38)
    Wakeup,

    Quote
    You are filled with worldly knowledge; There is no room for spiritual knowledge.

    These words here tell me you have no idea what you are talking about.   The correct definitions are.

    Worldly knowledge = knowledge based on sinful principles.
    Spiritual knowledge = knowledge based on righteous principles.

    Is knowledge of what a word means sinful.  The answer is no.  Stop embracing the lack of knowledge while claiming you do so for God.  Did you not understand the parable of the talents?

    Acts 12:4   And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; **intending after Easter** to bring him forth to the people.

    You do not even bother testing these things people tell you or you would know Herod was a Jew and zealous one at that.  The Jews actually liked him.  He was not one to celebrate a pagan holiday.   You were lied to and because you chose not to test the spirits of it you were deceived.

    Another lie is that there was a Roman Holiday Easter.  There is no evidence of it.

    You are instructed to test what you believe.


    Kewin.

    Herod had an arab father.
    He was appointed by ceasar to rule over the jews.
    He is under supervision of Rome.
    Jews dont celebrate the goddes ostre.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    I do not know where you hear these things as King Herod was a member of the Herodian Dynasty, all of who were Jews.  The father of the head of that line, Antigonus II Mattathias, was an Edomite that was converted to Judaism. Herod Agrippa's father was Aristobulus IV of that line.  None were Arabs.

    He was given his position by Rome and he was under their authority.

    The Koine Greek word the KJV translators translated Easter is Passover, the name of the Jewish Holiday.

    I am glad to help you test the spirit of what you have heard.


    Kerwin.

    The torah believers dont celebrate easter.
    The pagans do.

    wakeup.

    #361324
    carmel
    Participant

    kerwin,Oct. wrote:

    [/quote]

    Quote

    Jesus is yet another element but he is not God's physical body or heart.

    Kerwin,

    Hereunder is my post REGARDING YOUR STATEMENT ABOVE,which for a reason or another, YOU IGNORED

    DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU AGREE ?

    WHICH MEANS THAT YOU CONTRADICT YOURSELF?

    SO READ:

    COLOSSIANS 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead corporeally;

    SO JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY PHYSICAL BODY OF GOD ALMIGHTY!

    HE IS THE GODHEAD PHYSICALLY!

    Hebrews 1:2In these days hath spoken to us by his Son, whom he hath appointed HEIR OF ALL THINGS………….

    SO JESUS CHRIST IS THE SPIRIT, BODY AND SOUL OF GOD ALMIGHTY: SINCE HE INHERITED ALL THINGS OF GOD!

    THEREFORE, RESPECTIVELY:

    THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT!
    AGAIN UNITED AS ONE BEING IN JESUS CHRIST’S MYSTICAL BODY!

    THE TRIUNE GOD GLORIFIED  IN A UNIQUE ONE SPIRITUAL FLESH SUBSTANCE!

    THE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT!

    ALL IN HIM, ALL BY HIM, AND ALL FOR HIM!

    MORE!

    3Who being the brightness of his (GOD’S)glory, and the figure of his ( GOD’S) substance, and upholding all things by the word of his ( GOD’S) power, making purgation of sins, sitteth on the right hand of the majesty on high. IN ONE GLORY

    IT ALSO MEANS THAT ON THE LAST DAY WHEN ALL THE ENTIRE CREATURES ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST,THE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF GOD’S KINGDOM,

    THE FATHER WOULD BE AL IN ALL THROUGH JESUS CHRIST'S UNIQUE GLORIFIED BODY! FOR ETERNITY!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #361343
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 02 2013,04:40)


    kerwin,Nov. wrote:

    [/quote]

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    Genesis 1:1
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

    Kerwin,

    THE ABOVE, ALTHOUGH IT SAYS HEAVEN AND EARTH, WITH REGARDS TO THE EARTH, IT DOESN'T REFER TO THE SAME EARTH THAT WE LIVE IN,FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT OUR EARTH IS EVIL, AND MORTAL, AND THAT PARTICULAR EARTH WAS IN FULL GOD'S HARMONY, AND GLORY!THEREFORE IN BRIGHT LIGHT! SINCE GOD IS LIGHT!

    NOW READ JOB REGARDING THIS, AND WHAT REALLY HAPPENED IN GENESIS 1:1

    Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid up the foundations of the earth ? tell me if thou hast understanding.

    5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

    6 UPON WHAT ARE ITS BASES GROUNDED ? or who laid the corner stone thereof,

    FROM THE ABOVE WE ARE CERTAIN THAT THE EARTH WAS ON ITS OWN, THERE WAS NOT ANY KIND OF GROUND, LIKE GRAVITY, AND THE SUN, ITS FUNCTION WAS COMPLETELY BY ITSELF, BY GOD’S POWER, AND WISDOM! WHICH GOD REFERRED TO IT IN THE WORDS :

    WHO LAID THE CORNER STONE THEREOF

    SO GOD ALMIGHTY LAID THE CORNER STONE NO? AND THAT WAS THE WORD

    7 When the morning stars praised me together, and all the sons of God made a joyful melody?

    THE ANGELS WERE CALLED MORNING STARS TO INDICATE THAT THERE WAS NO DARKNESS. OBVIOUS ALL BY THE WORD! THEREFORE ALL IN BRIGHT LIGHT, NO NEED OF THE SUN!

    Rev: 22:5And NIGHT SHALL BE NO MORE: and they shall not need the light of the lamp, NOR THE LIGHT OF THE SON, because the Lord God shall enlighten them, and they shall reign for ever and ever.

    OK? IT IS CLEAR : NIGHT SHALL BE NO MORE, AND NO NEED OF THE SUN! SO ALL WOULD BE RSTORED TO ITS ORIGINAL STATE AS IT WAS IN GENESIS 1:1!

    #361344
    terraricca
    Participant

    Charles

    Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid up the foundations of the earth ? tell me if thou hast understanding.

    what are the foundation of the earth ???

    Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
    before his deeds of old;
    Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
    from the beginning, before the world began.

    Pr 8:29 when he gave the sea its boundary
    so the waters would not overstep his command,
    and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.

    Pr 8:30 Then I was the craftsman at his side.
    I was filled with delight day after day,

    #361353
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (942767 @ Nov. 01 2013,10:57)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 29 2013,09:48)

    Quote (942767 @ Oct. 28 2013,09:58)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2013,04:09)
    :)  Okay Marty.  But did you notice that EVERYTHING said about “the Word” in John 1 is also said in scripture about “Jesus”?  Because that is what I thought you would see from my post.

    Marty, consider the last words of 1:14……. “full of grace and truth”.  Now consider the exact moment in John 1 where John stops calling this person “the Word” and starts calling him “Jesus”.  (Follow the words “grace” and “truth”):

    16 Out of his fullness we have all received grace……..

    At this point, “the Word” is still the subject of the teaching, and the name “Jesus” has not yet been written.  So at this point, we know that grace came to us through “the Word”.  

    DO YOU AGREE SO FAR?  YES or NO?

    Now watch:

    17 ……grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

    Do you agree that verse 16 says grace came from “the Word”?  YES or NO?

    And do you agree that verse 17 says grace came from “Jesus Christ”?  YES or NO?

    Now look back to verse 14:  We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    Verse 14 is written about the one that had so far only been identified as “the Word”.  Do you agree?  And this “Word” came FROM the Father, full of grace and truth.  Do you agree?

    1.  Is the Word actually the Father Himself?  Or did the Word come FROM the Father?  Which one?

    2.  Are you able to see that “grace and truth” came from the Word?  And are you able to see that “grace and truth” came from Jesus Christ?


    Hi Mike:

    Jesus was born into this world a man child and the scriptures state:


    I agree 100% that Jesus was born into this world as a “man child” (by which strange language I assume you mean “human child”).

    So we both agree on that, and therefore it never needs to be brought up again in one of our discussions, right?  (Because it is a diversion, and not any kind of ANSWER to all the points I made in the above post.)

    So let's go more slowly:

    John 1:14
    The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    Forget all the other words for a minute, and focus only on the big ones.  Can you and I agree that “the Word” came to us “full of grace and truth”?


    No, Mike, it does not work that way with me, but you want to erase some of the scripture or add a little “a” here or a “who” there in order to make the scriptures state what you want them to say.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Alright Marty,

    Then DON'T erase the words in between if you don't want to.

    The question still remains:

    Does John 1:14 tell us that THE WORD made his dwelling among us and was full of grace and truth?  YES or NO?

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