JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ April 21 2013,22:06)

ok ill just put one here. you said the teaching GOD is omnipresent is not biblical.

That is the ONE point that I said was for a different thread, jammin.  Why pick that one?

Pick any of the others ones, and address it.  (I agree the post was too long, but you listed all those qualities in one post, and so I felt obligated to address them all in one post.  Now you can pick just one of them, and we can discuss that one before moving on to the next one.  And if you want to discuss the “omnipresent” thing, go to this thread.  My understanding is explained in the last post on page 4.  Some there agree with me, and many more don't agree with me.  But either way, we can discuss it THERE if you want.)

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ April 21 2013,22:04)

presidency is an office.

Exactly! And so is “God Almighty”.

jammin, what exactly does it mean to say “the God of Ekron”? Does it refer to the NATURE of the city of Ekron? Or does it refer to the OFFICE of the one who RULES OVER Ekron? Which one, please?

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2013,10:11)

Quote (jammin @ April 21 2013,22:04) presidency is an office. Exactly!  And so is “God Almighty”.   jammin, what exactly does it mean to say “the God of Ekron”?  Does it refer to the NATURE of the city of Ekron?  Or does it refer to the OFFICE of the one who RULES OVER Ekron?  Which one, please?

HUMAN is mighty

is that referring to the office or nature?

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2013,10:07)

Quote (jammin @ April 21 2013,22:06) ok ill just put one here. you said the teaching GOD is omnipresent is not biblical. That is the ONE point that I said was for a different thread, jammin.  Why pick that one? Pick any of the others ones, and address it.  (I agree the post was too long, but you listed all those qualities in one post, and so I felt obligated to address them all in one post.  Now you can pick just one of them, and we can discuss that one before moving on to the next one.  And if you want to discuss the “omnipresent” thing, go to this thread.  My understanding is explained in the last post on page 4.  Some there agree with me, and many more don't agree with me.  But either way, we can discuss it THERE if you want.)

i need you to answer my question

what if i can read a word for word in the bible that GOD is omnipresent, will you accept that you are a false teacher?

yes or no?

[mikeboll64]

There are a LOT of questions I need YOU to answer, but you don't.  If you really want an answer to that question, then go to the thread I linked and ask it.

In the meantime, pick one of the other quality claims I shot down using scripture in that big post, and STAND AND DEFEND your claim.

(If you cannot, then admit that YOU were a false teacher, and promise to start teaching the truth from now on. )

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ April 22 2013,17:33)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2013,10:11) Quote (jammin @ April 21 2013,22:04) presidency is an office. Exactly!  And so is “God Almighty”.   jammin, what exactly does it mean to say “the God of Ekron”?  Does it refer to the NATURE of the city of Ekron?  Or does it refer to the OFFICE of the one who RULES OVER Ekron?  Which one, please? HUMAN is mighty is that referring to the office or nature?

Please answer MY question for once, jammin.

(I'm done with this discussion until I get an answer to the question in the quote box above. Oh……. and also an answer to this one:)

jammin, is Jesus God Most High? Or the Son of God Most High? Which one?

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2013,11:43)

Quote (jammin @ April 22 2013,17:33) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2013,10:11) Quote (jammin @ April 21 2013,22:04) presidency is an office. Exactly!  And so is “God Almighty”.   jammin, what exactly does it mean to say “the God of Ekron”?  Does it refer to the NATURE of the city of Ekron?  Or does it refer to the OFFICE of the one who RULES OVER Ekron?  Which one, please? HUMAN is mighty is that referring to the office or nature? Please answer MY question for once, jammin. (I'm done with this discussion until I get an answer to the question in the quote box above.  Oh……. and also an answer to this one:) jammin, is Jesus God Most High?  Or the Son of God Most High?  Which one?

almighty is referring to the nature of GOD and not to the office.

make sure you understand your questions before asking sunshine.

now im asking you
HUMAN is mighty

is that a nature or office?

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2013,11:41)

There are a LOT of questions I need YOU to answer, but you don't.  If you really want an answer to that question, then go to the thread I linked and ask it. In the meantime, pick one of the other quality claims I shot down using scripture in that big post, and STAND AND DEFEND your claim. (If you cannot, then admit that YOU were a false teacher, and promise to start teaching the truth from now on.   )

ill repeat
i need you to answer my question

what if i can read a word for word in the bible that GOD is omnipresent, will you accept that you are a false teacher?

yes or no?

[mikeboll64]

Bye jammin.

[jammin]

LOL

i know you cant my answer my question.
you are afraid boy.

LOL

that is the best thing that you can do, say GOODBYE LOL

[terraricca]

Quote (jammin @ April 22 2013,10:27)

Quote (terraricca @ April 22 2013,11:55) Jamin Quote what? are you kdding mate? LOL ok let me post it again you said Christ is not equal with God. let me the verse of the bible Philippians 2:6 GOD’S WORD Translation (GW) 6 Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, do you understand that? maybe you need to go to school first and study to read Phil 2:3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Phil 2:4 Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others. Phil 2:5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: Phil 2:6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death— even death on a cross! Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, now boy; if he was equal to God almighty tell me why DID GOD ALMIGHTY MADE HIM “EXALTED HIM TO THE HIGHEST PLACE “NOT ABOVE GOD HIM SELVES BUT “GIVE HIM A NAME THAT IS ABOVE EVERY NAME ” BUT NOT ABOVE GOD ALMIGHTY'S NAME , YOU THINK I SHOULD GO TO SCHOOL ,THEN YOU NEVER CAME OUT OF KINDERGARTEN,YOU STILL SEE THINGS THAT ARE NOT THERE NOR EXPRESSED THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO BE ,BOY are you blind?? let me post it again Philippians 2:6 GOD’S WORD Translation (GW) 6 Although he was in the form of God and equal  with God, what did paul say? is he equal with God or not?

jAMMIN

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let me post it again Philippians 2:6 GOD’S WORD Translation (GW) 6 Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, what did paul say? is he equal with God or not?

Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,

this is the same man that add written Phil 2;6 ,tell me now is Christ the IMAGE OR IS HE THE TOTAL EQUAL OF HIS GOD AND FATHER

IF YOU CANNOT ANSWER THIS WE DONE ,KID

[jammin]

cant you read this boy?

et me post it again
Philippians 2:6
GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
6 Although he was in the form of God and equal  with God,

what did paul say?
is he equal with God or not?

[jammin]

ill discuss later tha col 1.15

we need first to clear this phil 2.6

what did paul said mr. T

[terraricca]

Quote (jammin @ April 23 2013,09:03)

ill discuss later tha col 1.15 we need first to clear this phil 2.6 what did paul said mr. T

Jammin

We are done,this is the end ,bye

[jammin]

Quote (terraricca @ April 23 2013,14:15)

Quote (jammin @ April 23 2013,09:03) ill discuss later tha col 1.15 we need first to clear this phil 2.6 what did paul said mr. T Jammin We are done,this is the end ,bye

LOL

why are saying bye.
cant you accept the truth of the bible mate?

ill post it again
Philippians 2:6
GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
6 Although he was in the form of God and equal with God,

try to read that over and over again. pls concentrate if you read the verse so that your brain can absorb the information

[kerwin]

Quote (carmel @ April 22 2013,02:47)

kerwin,April wrote: [/quote] Quote I do not except paradoxes in the gospel Kerwin, We all have a free will,but we must not stop searching for the truth,so if you are stuck with that kind of concept,you are already a failure unless you verify every possibility. I am sure of it since : all in him, all by him, and all for him And here are some which you should not ignore since they are scriptural: ONE AND MULTY THE FIRST  AND THE  LAST THE BEGINNING  AND THE END ALPHA AND OMEGA THE ABOVE ARE THE MOST OBVIOUS AND COMMON PARADOXES WHICH REFER TO THE WORD JESUS CHRIST. NOW FOR SOME MORE NOT QUITE OBVIOUS FOR SOME! WHEN HE WAS BORN, WITHIN HIS SOUL HE HAD BOTH THE SPIRIT OF LIGHT AND THE SPIRIT OF DARKNESS BOTH : GOD IN FLESH  AND  DEVIL IN FLESH GOD OF HEAVEN AND GOD OF THE WORLD LIFE AND DEATH SPIRIT AND MATTER FATHER AND SON CREATOR. AND CREATED. INVISIBLE AND VISIBLE. FOOD AND DRINK MALE AND FEMALE. SINLESS  AND  SINFULL VICTIM AND MURDERER INNOCENT AND GUILTY JUDGE AND CRIMINAL DEAD AND ALIVE OMNIPOTENT  AND WEAK OMNIPRESENT AND ABSENT EXISTS AND NON EXISTS LION AND  LAMB KING AND SERVANT and more: Peace and love in Jesus Charles

Carmel,

First and Last are used for one that is first and last in a set. One that is first and last in a set is the only one. For example:

Isaiah 41:4
King James Version (KJV)

4 Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the Lord, the first, and with the last; I am he.

It also means complete.

[carmel]

kerwin,April wrote:

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First and Last are used for one that is first and last in a set.

Kerwin,

That is irrelevant!

IT IS STILL A PARADOX!  

EVERYONE OF THOSE PARADOXES HAVE ITS PARTICULAR MEANING.

MOSES, WHICH WAS THE MESSIAH FOR CARNAL CREATURES,AND ALSO REPRESENTED JESUS, APART THAT HE WAS HIS SPIRIT, WAS ALSO FIRST AND LAST

WHICH YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT!

In fact most of them could be applied to Moses!

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

[carmel]

terraricca,April wrote:

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the firstborn over all creation.

Terraricca,

THAT'S CORRUPTION!

IN ORDER TO CLAIM THAT JESUS WAS CREATED FIRST!

THIS IS THE TRUTH!

THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE

THE ABOVE MEANS THAT JESUS' SPIRIT GAVE BIRTH TO EVERY FIRST CREATURE EVER CREATED. since all by him, and all in him

HIS SPIRIT EXISTED ETERNALLY WITHIN THE FATHER!

HE CAME FORTH AS THE WORDTO CREATE ALL WITH ALL THE POWER OF THE FATHER THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[kerwin]

Quote (carmel @ April 23 2013,12:25)

kerwin,April wrote: [/quote] Quote First and Last are used for one that is first and last in a set.   Kerwin, That is irrelevant! IT IS STILL A PARADOX!   EVERYONE OF THOSE PARADOXES HAVE ITS PARTICULAR MEANING. MOSES, WHICH WAS THE MESSIAH FOR CARNAL CREATURES,AND ALSO REPRESENTED JESUS, APART THAT HE WAS HIS SPIRIT, WAS ALSO FIRST AND LAST WHICH YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT! In fact most of them could be applied to Moses! Peace and love in Jesus Charles

Charles,

It is not a contradiction. A certain man was both the first and last over the finish line in a particular race. How many men went over the finish line in that race? It is a question that can be answered with logical reasoning.

Light and dark are a dichotomy and not a contradiction.

Alpha and Omego is a poor translation from Koine Greek into English. To those in the know it is equivalent to the aye and the zee and so is another way of saying the first and the last.

1) A paradox is claiming that one is his own son.
2) A paradox is claiming one is literally all knowing but does not know the day and the hour.
3) A paradox is claiming that one cannot be tempted by evil but was tempted by evil even as is common to man
4) A paradox is claiming that one's kind is completely human and completely Yawheh.

Not of those 4 statements a logically reasonable

[Ed J]

Quote (kerwin @ April 23 2013,23:18)

Charles, 1) A paradox is claiming that one is his own son. 2) A paradox is claiming one is literally all knowing but does not know the day and the hour. 3) A paradox is claiming that one cannot be tempted by evil but was tempted by evil even as is common to man 4) A paradox is claiming that one's kind is completely human and completely Yawheh.

Hi Kerwin,

None of your examples match the definition of “a paradox”;
as a fellow student, you should search out this matter a bit more.
Here is one of the examples of “a paradox” in Scripture (there are more):

                 Loosing your life gains your life. (Matt. 16:25)

Aristotelian logic states that FIRST you lose your life, AND THEN you gain it.
But that's NOT the meaning, the act itself of loosing your life is actually gaining
your life. Here is an awkward way to say this principal: The act of downing
is actually upping. The act of losing is actually winning. I hope you get it.

A paradox is where there is seemingly contradiction in terms, yet
BOTH parts are actually true; this is the meaning of “a paradox”.

Your brother    
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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