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Quote (carmel @ Mar. 09 2013,09:50) ARE YOU GOING TO SUBSTANTIATE YOUR POINT THAT THE BELOW IS A PROOF THAT THE SON'S SPIRIT WAS CREATED?
I know nothing about the creation of the spirit God placed in His firstborn Son, Jesus Christ.Nor do I know whether or not the spirits God places in human beings were created at some point.
What I do know is that WE were created, and so was Jesus.
Quote Why can't the words in scripture just mean the most obvious and sensible thing? Mike,
Your mentality is as clear as crystal.
Scriptures are God's words! No???
God is a spirit,and if we worship him we must worship him in the spirit and in the truth! No??? IN WHATEVER WE DO! No???
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME HOW ON EARTH THEN,YOU EXPECT SCRIPTURES TO BE LITERALLY ONLY???
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY SCRIPTURES MUST BE AS YOU SAID:
just mean the most obvious and sensible thing
CONSIDERRING THE FACT THAT ALMIGHTY GOD IS THE MOST INVISIBLE,MYSTERIOUS,HIDDEN,UNKOWN BEING???
DON'T YOU KNOW MIKE THAT EVEN THE JEWISH NAMES ARE NOT JUST LITERALLY MEANT???
DON'T YOU KNOW THAT EVEN CHAPTERS, VERSES,NUMBERS, AND PUNCTATION MARKS ARE PLACED AND USED NOT JUST TO GIVE THE MOST OBVIOUS LITERAL MEANING???
MIKE, I PRAY FOR YOU THAT YOU START IGNORING COMPLETELY THE LITERAL MEANING,AND REFLECT,MEDITATE,AND PRAY THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL GIVE YOU LIGHT.
YOU ONCE SAID THAT I COMPLETELY DEFINE SCRIPTURES THE OPPOSITE WAY YOU DO!
YES MIKE,YOU ARE RIGHT!
BECAUSE I SEE GOD:
BOTH GOD AND MAN, BOTH FATHER AND SON, BOTH LIGHT AND DARKNESS, BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH, BOTH FIRE AND WATER,BOTH WATER AND BLOOD,BOTH INVISIBLE AND VISIBLE, BOTH MALE AND FEMALE, BOTH MAN AND WOMAN, BOTH JUST AND UNJUST, BOTH HOLY AND CURSED, BOTH GOOD AND BAD,BOTH LIFE AND DEATH, BOTH SINLESS AND SINFULL,BOTH MASTER AND SERVANT,
BOTH ALPHA AND OMEGA,BOTH THE BEGINNING AND THE END,BOTH FIRST AND LAST
SINCE:
HE IS ONE SPIRIT ENTIRELY!
ALL IN HIM,ALL BY HIM, AND ALL FOR HIM!!!
Matthew 11:27 ……….And no one knoweth the Son, but the Father: neither doth any one know the Father, but the Son, and he to whom it shall please the SON to reveal him.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
mikeboll64,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Jesus is saying that THE WAY TO eternal life is taking in knowledge of both him, AND the “only true God”, who is not only OUR God, but also JESUS' God. Mike,
So I have to twist scriptures according to you, in order to convince you that God is not only ONE, but also in three PERSONS OF FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT.
I TELL YOU THIS MIKE, THAT THE THREE PERSONS IN THE SAME MAGNITUDE WERE INTRODUCED BY JESUS HIMSELF AFTER HE ASCENDED IN THE STATE OF BOTH OF HIS FATHERSPIRIT BEING AND OF OUR FATHER FLESH BEING
ALSO HIS DISCIPLES BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS NOT IN THE NAME OF THE THREE PERSONS,CONFIRMING THAT JESUS IS THE WORD, GODHEAD IN FLESH, ALMIGHTY IN FLESH.
THE UNIQUE IMAGE THAT GOD HAS!!!
NOW LET’S SEE YOUR WAY OF TWISTING SCRIPTURES:
THIS IS THE SCRIPTURE
John 17:3 Now this is eternal life: That they may know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent
Quote Jesus is saying that THE WAY TO eternal life WHERE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, JESUS SAID THOSE WORDS, SINCE THEY ARE NOT IN THAT VERSE???
Quote is taking in knowledge of WHAT, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THAT BIZZARE PHRASE MEANS, APART THAT IT IS ALSO NOT WITHIN THAT VERSE
Quote of both him, AND the “only true God” HOW FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IN THAT VERSE GOD ALMIGHTY IS KNOWN AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD
SINCE JESUS CONFIRMED THAT IT WAS ONLY THROUGH THE ETERNAL LIFE PROCESS THAT ALMIGHTY GOD MIGHT BE KNOWN AS SUCH???
ONLY THROUGH JESUS CHRIST’S DEATH AND GLORIFICATION THAT THERE WOULD BE NO DOUBT REGARDING THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
IT ISN’T LITERALLY CLEAR ENOUGH WHEN HE SAID:
NOW THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE:
NOTICE THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS ON ITS OWN, FINISHED .
SO JESUS CONFIRMED THAT NOW NOT BEFORE:
THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE: FOR ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN THE SON!!!THE WORD!!! GOD IN FLESH!!! THE FATHER IN THE SON!!!
THE OT GOD WAS OF NO USE. HUMANS COULD IN NO WAY COMUNICATE WITH THE ALMIGHTY GOD,EXCEPT THE SELECT!NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT HE CHOSE HIS OWN PEOPLE.
IMMEDIATELY IN A NEW SENTENCE HE SAID:THAT THEY MAY KNOW YOU;
SO ONLY THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE ETERNAL LIFE, JESUS’ DEATH,AND HIS GLORIFICATION,THAT THEY GOD’S ENEMIES, MAY KNOW ALMIGHTY GOD, AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE FOR THE FATHER AS A SPIRIT! BUT AS A FLESH BEING IN JESUS CHRIST.
SO OBVIOUS REFERED TO HIMSELF, SINCE FIRST ALL WAS CREATED IN HIM, AND BY HIM, AND THEN HE HIMSELF DIED AND THROUGH HIS DEATH HE, NOT ONLY ELIMINATED SATAN’S SPIRIT FROM ALL SOULS,AND THE ENTIRE CREATION, BUT RECONCILED ALL ONTO HIMSELF NO MATTER WHAT,AND WHOEVER WAS DEAD IN HELL FROM ADAM ONWARDS WAS GIVEN FREEDOM FROM DEATH,THERFORE BACK TO LIFE.ETERNAL LIFE MANIFESTED. HE RECREATED ALL CREATION A NEW, AND BECAME THE FATHER OF ALL CARNAL BEINGS. GOD OF ALL FLESH. BEFORE HE WAS ONLY GOD OF ALL SPIRITS!BUT NOW!!! HE IS GOD AND FATHER OF BOTH SPIRITS AND FLESH BEINGS. THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY TRUE SPIRIT, AND FLESH BEING!!!
THIS WAS MANIFESTED WITH ALL THOSE SAINTS WHICH CAME BACK TO LIFE ON JESUS’ DEATH TO CONFIRM THAT DEATH IN HIM WAS AND IS GLORIFIED, HOLY AND NOT ANYMORE A CURSE SINCE IT IS IN JESUS CHRIST. HE WAS CURSED FOR US,IN HIS SINLESS BODY.
1John1:2 For the life was manifested; and we have seen and do bear witness, and declare unto you the
LIFE ETERNAL, which was with the Father, and hath appeared to us:
SO LIFE ETERNAL IS THE WORD, JESUS CHRIST,GOD IN FLESH!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,14:58) [/quote] mikeboll64,Mar. wrote:Quote What I do know is that WE were created, and so was Jesus. Mike,
It seems you know nothing not even literal, because scripture says:
Genesis 2:3And he blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because in it he had rested from all his work which God CREATED AND MADE
SO YOU HAVE A HEADACHE DISTINGUISH WHAT FOR GOD IS A REFERENCE TO WHAT WAS CREATED AND A REFERENCE TO WHAT WAS MADE
ALSO JESUS CHRIST BECAME SO, ONLY THROUGH MARY THEREFORE BORN, NOT CREATED.
HE WAS BORN THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND IF WE WERE TO TAKE JOHN'S WORDS HE SAID:
John 1:3 All things were MADE BY HIM: and without him was MADE nothing that was MADE.
I:14 THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!
SO HERE JOHN HAS DISINGUISHED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WORD CREATED AND the word MADE! WHEN HE REFERRED TO JESUS CHRIST, YOU KNOW WHY?
HE SIMPLY USED THE WORD MADE
FIRST HE SAID THAT :
ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM, so regarding Jesus Christ's FUNCTION, participation, and share in creation throughout was DEFINED AS MADE not created! and this is DEFINITELY a reference to the SPIRIT STATE OF THE SON, THE WORD, GOD HIMSELF WITHIN HIS SON'S SPIRIT IN ORDER TO CREATE ALL IN HIM, AND ALL BY HIM!
SO IF YOU WANT TO DISCERN SOME TRUTH, REGARDING OUR WORLD,GOD CREATED ALL MATTER, AND WITHIN ALL THIS MATTER OBVIOUS TO KEEP IT IN EXISTENCE AND WITHIN THE TERMS OF ETERNAL LIFE NO MATTER WHAT , HE PLACED HIMSELF WITHIN HIS SON'S SPIRIT,THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT TO ESTABLISH THE WORD, AS THE ONLY MEDIATOR,AS THE MOST POWERFULL SPIRIT,IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE GOD'S GENERAL WORK ON EARTH SINCE GENESIS 1:3 NOTHWITSTANDING THE FACT THAT HE WAS WITHIN DARKNESS,SATAN HIMSELF.
Genesis 1:3And God said: Be light made. And light was made. 4 And God saw the light that it was good; and he divided the light from the darkness. 5 And he called the light Day, and the darkness Night; and there was evening and morning one day.
John 1:3All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made. 4In him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5And the LIGHT SHINETH IN DARKNESS, and the DARKNESS DID NOT COMPREHEND IT.
THEN HE SAID:
THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!
THIS TO MAKE US AWARE THAT NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT SATAN HAD EVERYTHING UNDER HIS CONTROL, AND POSSESSED ALL SOULS, LOCKED IN FLESH BEINGS, HIS EARTHLY SUBSTANCE,THROUGH ADAM'S SIN,IT ONLY MEANT FOR GOD THAT:
THE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING.IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT GIVES LIFE TO ALL EXISTENCE! EVEN TO SATAN HIMSELF AS MATTER, AS THE WORLD ITSELF!!!
Ezekiel 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thy iniquities, and by the iniquity of thy traffic: therefore I WILL BRING FORTH A FIRE FROM THE MIDST OF THEE,to devour thee, and I will make thee as ashes upon the earth in the sight of all that see thee.
19All that shall see thee among the nations, shall be astonished at thee: thou art brought to nothing, and thou shalt never be any more
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a CONSUMING FIRE.
SO JESUS CHRIST’S FLESH BODY WAS NOT JUST FLESH ONLY LIKE OURS, SINCE IT IS NOT OF THE EARTH, BUT FROM HEAVEN,BUT ALSO SPIRIT IN ITSELF!IT NEVER DIES.
EVEN MORE:
IT GIVES LIFE THROUGH DEATH ITSELF.
WE OURSELVES BELIEVEING IN JESUS,NEVER REALLY DIE BUT LIVE ETERNALLY, ONLY THE FLESH, SATAN'S ELEMENT THAT OBLITIRATES! AND ON THE LAST DAY, GOD KNOWS WHEN, WE WILL OWN A UNIQUE FLESH BODY LIKE THAT OF JESUS CHRIST.
GOD THEREFORE BECAME AND MANIFESTED HIMSELF IN A FLESH STATE THROUGH HIS SON’S SPIRIT,AND STILL MAINTAINED THE SPIRIT STATE IN ITSELF! SINCE HE WAS CONCEIVED IN MARY,THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT SEED, THERRFORE FULLY GOD AND FULLY MAN! NOTHING LESS WOULD HAD BEEN POSSIBLE FOR THE FATHER TO ABIDE WITHIN!
THIS WAS DEMONSTRATED ON MOUNT TABOR WHEN HIS FLESH BODY BECAME COMPLETELY SPIRITUAL TO CONFIRM THAT THE WORD IS GOD IN FLESH!!! THE FATHER IN THE SON.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ Mar. 10 2013,08:43) mikeboll64,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Jesus is saying that THE WAY TO eternal life is taking in knowledge of both him, AND the “only true God”, who is not only OUR God, but also JESUS' God. Mike,
So I have to twist scriptures according to you, in order to convince you that God is not only ONE, but also in three PERSONS OF FATHER, SON, AND HOLY SPIRIT.
I TELL YOU THIS MIKE, THAT THE THREE PERSONS IN THE SAME MAGNITUDE WERE INTRODUCED BY JESUS HIMSELF AFTER HE ASCENDED IN THE STATE OF BOTH OF HIS FATHERSPIRIT BEING AND OF OUR FATHER FLESH BEING
ALSO HIS DISCIPLES BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS NOT IN THE NAME OF THE THREE PERSONS,CONFIRMING THAT JESUS IS THE WORD, GODHEAD IN FLESH, ALMIGHTY IN FLESH.
THE UNIQUE IMAGE THAT GOD HAS!!!
NOW LET’S SEE YOUR WAY OF TWISTING SCRIPTURES:
THIS IS THE SCRIPTURE
John 17:3 Now this is eternal life: That they may know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent
Quote Jesus is saying that THE WAY TO eternal life WHERE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, JESUS SAID THOSE WORDS, SINCE THEY ARE NOT IN THAT VERSE???
Quote is taking in knowledge of WHAT, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THAT BIZZARE PHRASE MEANS, APART THAT IT IS ALSO NOT WITHIN THAT VERSE
Quote of both him, AND the “only true God” HOW FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IN THAT VERSE GOD ALMIGHTY IS KNOWN AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD
SINCE JESUS CONFIRMED THAT IT WAS ONLY THROUGH THE ETERNAL LIFE PROCESS THAT ALMIGHTY GOD MIGHT BE KNOWN AS SUCH???
ONLY THROUGH JESUS CHRIST’S DEATH AND GLORIFICATION THAT THERE WOULD BE NO DOUBT REGARDING THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
IT ISN’T LITERALLY CLEAR ENOUGH WHEN HE SAID:
NOW THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE:
NOTICE THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS ON ITS OWN, FINISHED .
SO JESUS CONFIRMED THAT NOW NOT BEFORE:
THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE: FOR ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN THE SON!!!THE WORD!!! GOD IN FLESH!!! THE FATHER IN THE SON!!!
THE OT GOD WAS OF NO USE. HUMANS COULD IN NO WAY COMUNICATE WITH THE ALMIGHTY GOD,EXCEPT THE SELECT!NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT HE CHOSE HIS OWN PEOPLE.
IMMEDIATELY IN A NEW SENTENCE HE SAID:THAT THEY MAY KNOW YOU;
SO ONLY THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE ETERNAL LIFE, JESUS’ DEATH,AND HIS GLORIFICATION,THAT THEY GOD’S ENEMIES, MAY KNOW ALMIGHTY GOD, AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE FOR THE FATHER AS A SPIRIT! BUT AS A FLESH BEING IN JESUS CHRIST.
SO OBVIOUS REFERED TO HIMSELF, SINCE FIRST ALL WAS CREATED IN HIM, AND BY HIM, AND THEN HE HIMSELF DIED AND THROUGH HIS DEATH HE, NOT ONLY ELIMINATED SATAN’S SPIRIT FROM ALL SOULS,AND THE ENTIRE CREATION, BUT RECONCILED ALL ONTO HIMSELF NO MATTER WHAT,AND WHOEVER WAS DEAD IN HELL FROM ADAM ONWARDS WAS GIVEN FREEDOM FROM DEATH,THERFORE BACK TO LIFE.ETERNAL LIFE MANIFESTED. HE RECREATED ALL CREATION A NEW, AND BECAME THE FATHER OF ALL CARNAL BEINGS. GOD OF ALL FLESH. BEFORE HE WAS ONLY GOD OF ALL SPIRITS!BUT NOW!!! HE IS GOD AND FATHER OF BOTH SPIRITS AND FLESH BEINGS. THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY TRUE SPIRIT, AND FLESH BEING!!!
THIS WAS MANIFESTED WITH ALL THOSE SAINTS WHICH CAME BACK TO LIFE ON JESUS’ DEATH TO CONFIRM THAT DEATH IN HIM WAS AND IS GLORIFIED, HOLY AND NOT ANYMORE A CURSE SINCE IT IS IN JESUS CHRIST. HE WAS CURSED FOR US,IN HIS SINLESS BODY.
1John1:2 For the life was manifested; and we have seen and do bear witness, and declare unto you the
LIFE ETERNAL, which was with the Father, and hath appeared to us:
SO LIFE ETERNAL IS THE WORD, JESUS CHRIST,GOD IN FLESH!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Carmel,HE RECREATED ALL CREATION A NEW, AND BECAME THE FATHER OF ALL CARNAL BEINGS. GOD OF ALL FLESH. BEFORE HE WAS ONLY GOD OF ALL SPIRITS!BUT NOW!!! HE IS GOD AND FATHER OF BOTH SPIRITS AND FLESH BEINGS. THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY TRUE SPIRIT, AND FLESH BEING!!!
Jer.32:27 “Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh; is anything too difficult for Me?”
Num.16:22 But they fell on their faces and said, “O God, God of the spirits of all flesh, when one man sins, will You be angry with the entire congregation?”
Peace brother.
Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 11 2013,01:13) t- Firstborn = first to be born. It is already alive before being born.
Kathiwhen you have a plan in your heart at what point is it born
when you first thought about
or when the first time you start to realized it, or made it come through a child may be in construction but unless it is born and so come out of the womb ,there is no child ,only a dream of it ,
also at what point you think the spirit of live enter the infant
having a living gestation does not make it a living soul right
Quote (carmel @ Mar. 10 2013,09:14) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,14:58) [/quote] mikeboll64,Mar. wrote:Quote What I do know is that WE were created, and so was Jesus. Mike,
It seems you know nothing not even literal, because scripture says:
Genesis 2:3And he blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because in it he had rested from all his work which God CREATED AND MADE
SO YOU HAVE A HEADACHE DISTINGUISH WHAT FOR GOD IS A REFERENCE TO WHAT WAS CREATED AND A REFERENCE TO WHAT WAS MADE
ALSO JESUS CHRIST BECAME SO, ONLY THROUGH MARY THEREFORE BORN, NOT CREATED.
HE WAS BORN THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND IF WE WERE TO TAKE JOHN'S WORDS HE SAID:
John 1:3 All things were MADE BY HIM: and without him was MADE nothing that was MADE.
I:14 THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!
SO HERE JOHN HAS DISINGUISHED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WORD CREATED AND the word MADE! WHEN HE REFERRED TO JESUS CHRIST, YOU KNOW WHY?
HE SIMPLY USED THE WORD MADE
FIRST HE SAID THAT :
ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM, so regarding Jesus Christ's FUNCTION, participation, and share in creation throughout was DEFINED AS MADE not created! and this is DEFINITELY a reference to the SPIRIT STATE OF THE SON, THE WORD, GOD HIMSELF WITHIN HIS SON'S SPIRIT IN ORDER TO CREATE ALL IN HIM, AND ALL BY HIM!
SO IF YOU WANT TO DISCERN SOME TRUTH, REGARDING OUR WORLD,GOD CREATED ALL MATTER, AND WITHIN ALL THIS MATTER OBVIOUS TO KEEP IT IN EXISTENCE AND WITHIN THE TERMS OF ETERNAL LIFE NO MATTER WHAT , HE PLACED HIMSELF WITHIN HIS SON'S SPIRIT,THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT TO ESTABLISH THE WORD, AS THE ONLY MEDIATOR,AS THE MOST POWERFULL SPIRIT,IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE GOD'S GENERAL WORK ON EARTH SINCE GENESIS 1:3 NOTHWITSTANDING THE FACT THAT HE WAS WITHIN DARKNESS,SATAN HIMSELF.
Genesis 1:3And God said: Be light made. And light was made. 4 And God saw the light that it was good; and he divided the light from the darkness. 5 And he called the light Day, and the darkness Night; and there was evening and morning one day.
John 1:3All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made. 4In him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5And the LIGHT SHINETH IN DARKNESS, and the DARKNESS DID NOT COMPREHEND IT.
THEN HE SAID:
THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!
THIS TO MAKE US AWARE THAT NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT SATAN HAD EVERYTHING UNDER HIS CONTROL, AND POSSESSED ALL SOULS, LOCKED IN FLESH BEINGS, HIS EARTHLY SUBSTANCE,THROUGH ADAM'S SIN,IT ONLY MEANT FOR GOD THAT:
THE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING.IT IS THE SPIRIT THAT GIVES LIFE TO ALL EXISTENCE! EVEN TO SATAN HIMSELF AS MATTER, AS THE WORLD ITSELF!!!
Ezekiel 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thy iniquities, and by the iniquity of thy traffic: therefore I WILL BRING FORTH A FIRE FROM THE MIDST OF THEE,to devour thee, and I will make thee as ashes upon the earth in the sight of all that see thee.
19All that shall see thee among the nations, shall be astonished at thee: thou art brought to nothing, and thou shalt never be any more
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a CONSUMING FIRE.
SO JESUS CHRIST’S FLESH BODY WAS NOT JUST FLESH ONLY LIKE OURS, SINCE IT IS NOT OF THE EARTH, BUT FROM HEAVEN,BUT ALSO SPIRIT IN ITSELF!IT NEVER DIES.
EVEN MORE:
IT GIVES LIFE THROUGH DEATH ITSELF.
WE OURSELVES BELIEVEING IN JESUS,NEVER REALLY DIE BUT LIVE ETERNALLY, ONLY THE FLESH, SATAN'S ELEMENT THAT OBLITIRATES! AND ON THE LAST DAY, GOD KNOWS WHEN, WE WILL OWN A UNIQUE FLESH BODY LIKE THAT OF JESUS CHRIST.
THIS WAS DEMONSTRATED ON MOUNT TABOR WHEN HIS FLESH BODY BECAME COMPLETELY SPIRITUAL TO CONFIRM THAT THE WORD IS GOD IN FLESH!!! THE FATHER IN THE SON.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Carmel,(quote)
SO JESUS CHRIST’S FLESH BODY WAS NOT JUST FLESH ONLY LIKE OURS, SINCE IT IS NOT OF THE EARTH, BUT FROM HEAVEN,BUT ALSO SPIRIT IN ITSELF!IT NEVER DIES.SINCE IT IS NOT OF THE EARTH,
Was Mary from the earth?
1Jn.4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2Hereby know ye {5720} the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
Peace brother.
Quote (abe @ Mar. 11 2013,12:33) [/quote]
quote=abe,Mar. 11 2013,12:33]Quote Was Mary from the earth? Abe,
IT IS QUITE OBVIOUS THAT THE LINAGE OF MARY, WHICH WAS TO SUPPLY THE PURE FLESH OF THE WORD FROM THE CONTAMINATED FLESH OF EVE IT WAS DEFINITELY A PROCESS OF THE WORD BOTH REGARDING her FLESH SUBSTANCE, AND EVEN MORE HER SPIRIT.
THEREFORE THE SPIRIT ITSELF OF THE SON,THE WORD, THE MOST POWERFULL SPIRIT AS THE MEDIATOR, WAS UNFATHOMABLE FOR US, DOING HIS WORK THROUGHOUT THE LINEAGE OF MARY RIGHT FROM SETH.
THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CREATION , THEREFORE CREATED, REGARDING MARY'S FLESH BODY ONLY, THE WORD PRODUCED THE IMMACULATE FLESH SUBSTANCE WHICH GOD NEEDED TO BECOME GOD IN FLESH
SO MATERIAL WISE THE LINAGE OF MARY AND ALL THE SELECT WERE SHIELDED,SEPARATED WITH THE POWER OF THE WORD FROM SATAN'S EVIL SPIRIT.
IT MEANS THAT SATAN HAD NOT THE LEAST AWARENESS WHAT WAS HAPPENING,NEVER MIND THE CHANCE TO GET INVOVLED IN ANY WAY THROUGH HIS SEED, AND STAIN WITH HIS EVIL SPIRIT THE PROCESS WHEREVER MARY'S SEED WAS CONCERNED.
JEREMIAH 31:22 How long wilt thou be dissolute in deliciousness, O wandering daughter? for the Lord hath created a new thing upon the earth: A WOMAN SHALL COMPASS A MAN.
THE ABOVE IS DEFINITELY A REFERENCE TO MARY. NOTICE AS WELL THE STATEMENT FOR THE LORD HAD CREATED A NEW THING UPON THE EARTH SO IT HAS NOTHING TO BE COMPARED WITH THE NORMAL CONCEPTION PROCESS REGARDING MARY!
IT IS ALSO GOOD TO NOTICE THAT WHEREVER THIS HOLY GENERATION WAS BEING PROCESSED IT WAS ALWAYS THROUGH BARREN, OLD WOMEN OR BOTH, AS PROOF THAT THE WORD WAS DOING ITS MYSTERIOUS WORK!
GOD WAS CLEAR REGARDING MARY AND SAID:
Genesis 3:15 I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: ………….
REFLECT:
ALMIGHTY GOD HIMSELF THROUGH THE WORD, THE MOST POWERFULL SPIRITput enmities between Satan and the woman,
and Satan seed and her seed:
SO SATANIC SPERM, WOULD NEVER TOUCH HER LINAGE AND HER HOLY OVUM. EVEN IF SHE WAS ATTACKED, RAPED AND VIOLENTLY HAD INTERCOURSE WHILE ON HER WAY TO VISIT ELIZEBETH .
CONFIRMATION:
Hebrews 4:12 For the
WORD OF GOD IS A LIVING AND EFFECTUAL, AND MORE PIRCING THAN ANY TWO ENDGED SWORD;
AND REACHNG UNTO THE DIVISION OF
THE SOUL AND THE SPIRIT,
OF THE JOINTS ALSO AND MARROW,………..
THE ABOVE IS A DESCRIPTION, REGARDING THE POWER OF THE WORD IN UTMOST DETAIL HOW GOD MADE THINGS CONCERNING HIS PERSONAL AND UNIQUE PROCESS TO FURNISH HIMSELF WITH THE MOST IMMACULATE FLESH SUBSTANCE AND STORES IT IN THE OVUM OF MARY.
NOTWITSTANDING THE FACT THAT CAME THROUGH SATAN'S EARTH.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
abe,
I would like to add:
THE WORD LOWERED HIMSELF AND UNFATHOMABLY BECAME ONE OF US, FIRST AS WOMAN IN MARY, PURPOSELY TO REVOLUTIONIZE THE WOMAN EVE!
FROM SATAN'S ENTITY TO GOD'S ENTITY!
WHO CAN FATHOM GOD’S LOVE???
RIGHT FROM THE MOMENT OF ADAM SIN,SIMPLY HE DID WHAT SATAN DID TO ADAM. THAT IS:
SATAN TOOK THE FIRST EVER PURE SOUL,
AND GOD TOOK THE FIRST EVER EVIL FLESH SUBSTANCE.
NO WONDER WHY JESUS NEVER CALLED MARY MOTHER BUT OPTED TO CALL HER WOMAN OBVIOUS IT WAS HIS INCONCEIVABLE VERSATILE SPIRIT ITSELF AS WOMAN!
1 Corinthians 11:3…………THE HEAD(spirit) OF THE WOMAN IS THE MAN(Jesus)
8 For the man is not of the woman, but the WOMAN OF THE MAN. 9 For the man was not created for the woman, BUT THE WOMAN (MARY)FOR THE MAN(JESUS).ALL CREATION WAS PERFECTED TO THE LEAST DETAIL IN THE MICROCREATION BODY OF MARY TO SUPPLY JESUS WITH THE APPROPRIATE IMMACULATE FLESH BODY IN ORDER TO REDEEM AND RCONCILE THE ENTIRE OF OUR CREATION IN HIS IMMACULATE FLESH.
Matthew 13:45 Again the kingdom of heaven is like to a merchant seeking good
PEARLS
46 Who when he had found ONE PEARL OF GREAT PRICE,( MARY) went his way, and sold ALL THAT HE HAD,( THE WORD ) and bought it.
To conclude and in order to eliminate all doubts, read hereunder:
John 17:6 I have manifested thy name to the men whom thou hast given me OUT OF THE WORLD. YOURS THEY WERE, and to me thou gave them; and they have kept thy word. 17:14 I have given them thy word, and the world hath hated them, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD; AS I AM NOT OF THE WORLD.
17:16 THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD AS I ALSO AM NOT OF THE WORLD
JESUS, TALKING IN THE NATURE STATE OF MAN SINCE HE WAS ABOUT TO DIE, EMPHASIZED FIRST IN 6 AND SAID: OUT OF THE WORLD, THEN : YOURS THEY WERE, THEN BOTH IN 14, AND 16 MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD AS HE IS NOT OF THE WORLD,
SO THE APPOSTLES WERE ALSO NOT OF THE WORLD.
SO IT WAS NOT JUST MARY WHICH WAS NOT OF THE WORLD, BUT ALL THE GENERATION OF HEAVEN. AND THEY STILL ARE BEING SENT!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 08 2013,12:24) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 06 2013,03:12) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2013,11:18) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2013,02:00) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 28 2013,08:59)
jammin, do you agree with me that ONLY the MOST HIGH God should get the capital “G”? YES or NO?
the capital G should be given to the true God, the most high God and not god.
Okay, I agree that the capital “G” should only be given to the Most High God, the One called “the only true God” by Jesus himself.So let's use what we learned in our discussion about whether or not Satan was God Almighty, and apply that same logic and reasoning to Jesus.
We both concluded that Satan is NOT God Almighty – not because there is a scripture that specifically says, “Satan is not God Almighty” – but because Satan is many times listed as someone OTHER THAN God Almighty, right?
Let's use that same common sense in the following scriptures:
John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.Since Jesus lists himself as someone OTHER THAN “the only true God” in the above verse, we should be able to use the same common sense we used while discussing Satan, and conclude that Jesus is NOT “the only true God”, right?
Mark 5:7
He shouted at the top of his voice, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? In God’s name don’t torture me!”Luke 1:32
He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High.In both of the above scriptures, Jesus is identified as someone OTHER THAN “the Most High God” – once by an angel, and once by a demon. So once again, if we use that same common sense we used when discussing Satan, we will conclude that Jesus can't BE the Most High God if he is someone OTHER THAN the Most High God.
So what we have here is evidence that you, jammin, are smart enough to realize Satan can't be the Most High God because he is identified in many scriptures as someone OTHER THAN the Most High God.
And we have evidence that I use that same reasoning and common sense when it comes to Jesus……….. but YOU don't.
Why do you suppose that I'M consistent in my logic, common sense, and reasoning, while YOU are inconsistent?
Is it perhaps because you are a Trinitarian, and for your comically flawed, man-made doctrine to be fulfilled, you must force yourself to completely ignore the common sense you applied to our Satan discussion when it comes to discussing Jesus?
(Btw, why do you think the demon asked Jesus to swear to him “in God's name” that he wouldn't torture him? Why can't Jesus swear in HIS OWN name, if he is actually God?)
jammin, if your doctrine only allows you to practice common sense and logic SOME OF THE TIME, perhaps it's time for you to find a new doctrine.
the father is truly God
jammin,Haven't I just listed scriptures that identify Jesus as someone OTHER THAN “the only true God” and “the Most High God”? YES I have.
And didn't you just say that the “only true God” and “Most High God” is the ONLY one who should get the capital “G”?
Yes you did.
Now you only need to adhere to your own words, jammin.
what you are saying is not in the bible.
you do not want the truth of the bible mike/.
the bible said Christ is truly God and you ignore this truth.the bible said the father is truly God
the said said the son is also truly God just like his father.make your own bible boy LOL
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 08 2013,01:14) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 06 2013,20:16) if the bible is silent, you must be silent. do not conclude that Christ was the first creation created by God bec paul did not say that.
he said firstborn of all creation and that is not literally created.
the context proves that it refers to the supremacy of Christ. pls read commentaries also. scholars know more than you know.
also, the bible proves that it talks about supremacy of Christ.Colossians 1:15
New Century Version (NCV)
The Importance of Christ15 No one can see God, but Jesus Christ is exactly like him. He ranks higher than everything that has been made.
did you see that boy? study hard
Jammin……………You are right in this Boy,
peace and love to you and yours…………………………gene
thanks gene but mike does not want to believe this truth.he wants illusion LOL
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 11 2013,15:54) you do not want the truth of the bible mike/.
the bible said Christ is truly God and you ignore this truth.
You've got it backwards, sonny.YOUR OWN WORDS said that ONLY the Most High God deserves the capital “G”, right?
Did I show you TWO different scriptures that CLEARLY identify Jesus as someone OTHER THAN “the Most High God”?
End of story, jammin. You will either adhere to YOUR OWN WORDS, or show us all that you are NOT a man of your word.
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 11 2013,15:55) thanks gene but mike does not want to believe this truth
I believe the truth of the Bible, jammin. Not the truth of the likes of you, who desperately WANTS Jesus to be the Most High God he is the Son and Servant of.And not the truth of Gene, who desperately WANTS Jesus to have begun his existence as a human being born of Mary.
I understand the words “firstborn of every creature” to mean Jesus was the first thing God ever created. I believe Prov 8:22 confirms my understanding, by saying this wisdom (Jesus) was created as the first of God's works.
I believe Jesus himself confirms it in Rev 3:14, when he calls himself “the beginning of the creation by God”.
I believe Micah 5:2 confirms it, when it speaks of Jesus' ORIGINS being from days of old.
You don't have to believe these things, but keep in mind that I'm just reading the words of the scriptures the way they were written – while you and Gene both read those same scriptures in whatever way compliments your own man-made doctrines.
Quote (carmel @ Mar. 10 2013,10:43) Quote (mikeboll @ 64) is taking in knowledge of WHAT, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THAT BIZZARE PHRASE MEANS, APART THAT IT IS ALSO NOT WITHIN THAT VERSE
The Greek word used by Jesus was “ginōskōsin”. It is Strong's #1097, and the very first words in Strong's definition are: I am taking in knowledge.
Luke 8:10
To you is given knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of GodThe bolded “knowledge” is the same Greek word.
So now that we've gotten that part sorted out…………….
Quote (carmel @ Mar. 10 2013,10:43) Quote (mikeboll @ 64) Jesus is saying that THE WAY TO eternal life WHERE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, JESUS SAID THOSE WORDS, SINCE THEY ARE NOT IN THAT VERSE???
How do YOU understand it, Charles? Do you think that taking in knowledge of Jesus and his and our God, IN ITSELF, is LITERALLY “eternal life”? Will I live forever just by reading the Bible once and taking in knowledge of God and his servant Jesus Christ?Jesus is OBVIOUSLY talking about “the way” to eternal life. Or the “requirement” to gain eternal life.
Quote (carmel @ Mar. 10 2013,10:43) Quote (mikeboll @ 64) of both him, AND the “only true God” HOW FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IN THAT VERSE GOD ALMIGHTY IS KNOWN AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD
I'm not sure I understand the question. But I have one of my own:Charles, is it abundantly clear in John 17:3 that Jesus identifies himself as someone OTHER THAN the one he calls “the only true God”? YES or NO?
The only honest and correct answer is “YES”……… so don't bother posting a novel to “explain”, okay?
Quote (carmel @ Mar. 11 2013,12:45) Quote (abe @ Mar. 11 2013,12:33) [/quote]
quote=abe,Mar. 11 2013,12:33]Quote Was Mary from the earth? Abe,
IT IS QUITE OBVIOUS THAT THE LINAGE OF MARY, WHICH WAS TO SUPPLY THE PURE FLESH OF THE WORD FROM THE CONTAMINATED FLESH OF EVE IT WAS DEFINITELY A PROCESS OF THE WORD BOTH REGARDING her FLESH SUBSTANCE, AND EVEN MORE HER SPIRIT.
THEREFORE THE SPIRIT ITSELF OF THE SON,THE WORD, THE MOST POWERFULL SPIRIT AS THE MEDIATOR, WAS UNFATHOMABLE FOR US, DOING HIS WORK THROUGHOUT THE LINEAGE OF MARY RIGHT FROM SETH.
THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CREATION , THEREFORE CREATED, REGARDING MARY'S FLESH BODY ONLY, THE WORD PRODUCED THE IMMACULATE FLESH SUBSTANCE WHICH GOD NEEDED TO BECOME GOD IN FLESH
SO MATERIAL WISE THE LINAGE OF MARY AND ALL THE SELECT WERE SHIELDED,SEPARATED WITH THE POWER OF THE WORD FROM SATAN'S EVIL SPIRIT.
IT MEANS THAT SATAN HAD NOT THE LEAST AWARENESS WHAT WAS HAPPENING,NEVER MIND THE CHANCE TO GET INVOVLED IN ANY WAY THROUGH HIS SEED, AND STAIN WITH HIS EVIL SPIRIT THE PROCESS WHEREVER MARY'S SEED WAS CONCERNED.
JEREMIAH 31:22 How long wilt thou be dissolute in deliciousness, O wandering daughter? for the Lord hath created a new thing upon the earth: A WOMAN SHALL COMPASS A MAN.
THE ABOVE IS DEFINITELY A REFERENCE TO MARY. NOTICE AS WELL THE STATEMENT FOR THE LORD HAD CREATED A NEW THING UPON THE EARTH SO IT HAS NOTHING TO BE COMPARED WITH THE NORMAL CONCEPTION PROCESS REGARDING MARY!
IT IS ALSO GOOD TO NOTICE THAT WHEREVER THIS HOLY GENERATION WAS BEING PROCESSED IT WAS ALWAYS THROUGH BARREN, OLD WOMEN OR BOTH, AS PROOF THAT THE WORD WAS DOING ITS MYSTERIOUS WORK!
GOD WAS CLEAR REGARDING MARY AND SAID:
Genesis 3:15 I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: ………….
REFLECT:
ALMIGHTY GOD HIMSELF THROUGH THE WORD, THE MOST POWERFULL SPIRITput enmities between Satan and the woman,
and Satan seed and her seed:
SO SATANIC SPERM, WOULD NEVER TOUCH HER LINAGE AND HER HOLY OVUM. EVEN IF SHE WAS ATTACKED, RAPED AND VIOLENTLY HAD INTERCOURSE WHILE ON HER WAY TO VISIT ELIZEBETH .
CONFIRMATION:
Hebrews 4:12 For the
WORD OF GOD IS A LIVING AND EFFECTUAL, AND MORE PIRCING THAN ANY TWO ENDGED SWORD;
AND REACHNG UNTO THE DIVISION OF
THE SOUL AND THE SPIRIT,
OF THE JOINTS ALSO AND MARROW,………..
THE ABOVE IS A DESCRIPTION, REGARDING THE POWER OF THE WORD IN UTMOST DETAIL HOW GOD MADE THINGS CONCERNING HIS PERSONAL AND UNIQUE PROCESS TO FURNISH HIMSELF WITH THE MOST IMMACULATE FLESH SUBSTANCE AND STORES IT IN THE OVUM OF MARY.
NOTWITSTANDING THE FACT THAT CAME THROUGH SATAN'S EARTH.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles,(quote)
THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CREATION , THEREFORE CREATED, REGARDING MARY'S FLESH BODY ONLY, THE WORD PRODUCED THE IMMACULATE FLESH SUBSTANCE WHICH GOD NEEDED TO BECOME GOD IN FLESHNum.23:18 And he took up his parable, and said, Rise up, Balak, and hear; listen to me, you son of Zippor:
19God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: has he said, and shall he not do it? or has he spoken, and shall he not make it good?(quote)
IT MEANS THAT SATAN HAD NOT THE LEAST AWARENESS WHAT WAS HAPPENING,NEVER MIND THE CHANCE TO GET INVOVLED IN ANY WAY THROUGH HIS SEED, AND STAIN WITH HIS EVIL SPIRIT THE PROCESS WHEREVER MARY'S SEED WAS CONCERNED.Ps.51:5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me.
2Cor.5:20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God :21For he hath MADE him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Heb.9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Peace brother..
mikeboll64,Mar. wrote:[/quote]
Quote The Greek word used by Jesus was “ginōskōsin”. It is Strong's #1097, and the very first words in Strong's definition are: I am taking in knowledge. Mike ,
Hereunder is the
TEXT ANALYSIS
STRONG’S GREEK ENGLISH
3778 [e] hautē αὕτη this
1161 [e] de δέ moreover
1510 [e] estin ἐστιν is
3588 [e] hē ἡ –
166 [e] aiōnios αἰώνιος eternal
2222 [e] zōē ζωὴ life,
2443 [e] hina ἵνα that
1097 [e] ginōskōsin γινώσκωσιν* they should know
4771 [e] se σὲ you,NOW YOU WROTE:
Jesus is saying that THE WAY TO eternal life is taking in knowledge of both him, AND the “only true God”, who is not only OUR God, but also JESUS' God.
THE PHRASE :
THE WAY TO ETERNAL LIFE, which YOU invented, has nothing in comparison with:
NOW THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE which in itself justified Jesus mission on earth, which was the redemption from death of all creation, confirmed:
THE TWO NATURES OF JESUS CHRIST AS FULLY MAN AND FULLY GOD,
and OFFICIALLY, declared the most VITAL:
THE UNIFICATION OF JESUS CHRIST WITH THE FATHER THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT.
THE GLORIFICATION!
THEREFORE THE ONLY TRUE GOD,AND JESUS CHRIST. IN THE TRUTH.
BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH BEING FOR ETENITY!
Now I PERSONALLY EXPECT THAT YOU EXPAND IN ORDER FOR US TO BE AWARE WHAT THE TRUTH IS ! SINCE IT IS A VAGUE INTERPRETATION!
Quote Charles, is it abundantly clear in John 17:3 that Jesus identifies himself as someone OTHER THAN the one he calls “the only true God”? YES or NO? IT IS NOT ONLY IF IT IS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR BUT WHAT IT IS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR FOR HIM, AND IN THE SAME TIME, INFACT IT IS NOT!SINCE HE GIVES A DIFFERENT INTERPRATION THEN WHAT IT REALLY IS.
JESUS CONFIRMED NOT ONLY THAT THE FATHER IS:
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, BUT ALSO THAT THE FATHER BECAME SO,CONJOINED WITH JESUS CHRIST.
SO HE IN THE SAME INSTANT CONFIRMED THAT HE ALSO IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD, SINCE JESUS CHRIST IS INCLUDED IN THE TITLE.
SO IF YOU ARE SAYING WHAT IT IS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD , IN THE SAME TIME YOU ARE SAYING,BUT IT IS NOT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR FOR YOU, THAT JESUS CHRIST IS ALSO THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
Peace and Love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 10 2013,09:22) Quote (carmel @ Mar. 09 2013,21:50) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,12:10) Quote (carmel @ Mar. 08 2013,00:53) IT IS DIFFICULT FOR YOU MIKE, SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU IGNORE THE BELIEF THAT GOD IS A TRIUNE GOD.
Actually Charles,The fact that you DO want our ONE God to be some kind of multi-personality freak is the reason you can't accept “I am the beginning of the creation by God” for the most obvious and sensible meaning – which is: Jesus was the first thing God ever created.
It's not like there is just ONE scripture that you have to twist into a nonsensical meaning. You have to twist Prov 8:22, Col 1:15, Micah 5:2, Rev 3:14, Heb 1:6…… and many others as well.
Do ALL of those scriptures have some oddball, nonsensical meaning, Charles? Must we imagine that ALL of them mean something other than the most obvious and sensible meaning – just so your comically flawed, man-made doctrine can be fulfilled?
You do it if you want to. I refuse to make nonsense out of perfectly clear scriptures – just to appease my own personal desires.
I do, however, wish you the best on your spiritual journey, and hope that you will soon come to accept the words of scripture as they were written.
I pray that you will come to accept our one God, the Father, AND His only begotten Son……… instead of a made up God who CONSISTS OF a Father and a Son.
Quote Do ALL of those scriptures have some oddball, nonsensical meaning, Charles? Mike,
ARE YOU GOING TO SUBSTANTIATE YOUR POINT THAT THE BELOW IS A PROOF THAT THE SON'S SPIRIT WAS CREATED?
HAVE A GO MIKE!
define:
THE FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE!
IN ORDER TO PROVE THAT JESUS WAS EVER CREATED!
I AM WAITING !!!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
CharlesQuote define: THE FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE!
firstborn = first come into live
of every creature = before all other creature
Quote firstborn = first come into live of every creature = before all other creature
Terraricca,
REFLECT:
firstborn = first come into live, BUT EACH DIFFERENT SPECIES, IN NATURE,NOT JESUS’SPIRIT.
JESUS’SPIRIT WAS USED BY THE FATHER,THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT TO CREATE EVERY SPECIES IN NATURE FOR THE FIRST TIME,AND THEN NATURE, THROUGH THAT PARTICULAR FIRST ONE, PRODUCED QUANTITIES OF IT.
FOR INSTANCE READ:
And he said: Let the earth bring forth the green herb, and such as may seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after its kind, which may have seed in itself upon the earth. And it was so done.
GOD SAID: LET THE EARTH BRING FORTH THE GREEN HERB,
Notice: it says HERB, not HERBS, SO IT IS REFERRING TO THE FIRST EVER CREATURE IN THE PLANT PROCESS IN THIS CASE THE HERB, THAT PARTICULAR FIRST HERB, SINCE IT WAS CREATED FOR THE FIRST TIME,
IT WAS CREATED BY THE WORD GOD'S MOST POWERFULL SPIRIT WHICH WAS IN THAT PARTICULAR HERB TO GIVE IT LIFE AND EXIST.
NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE WORDWAS CREATED, BUT THE HERB WAS.
THEN THROUGH ITS SEED IT PRODUCED QUATITIES,BUT THE FIRST ONE WAS CREATED BY THE WORD GOD’ S SPIRIT,composed purposely in
THREE SPIRITS,
THE FATHER, THE SPIRIT OF LOVE
THE SON, THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM,
AND THE HOLY SPIRIT THE SPIRIT OF POWER,
IN ORDER TO CREATE ALL.
BUT ALL IN THE SON'S SPIRIT, THE MOST POWERFULL SPIRIT,AS THE ONLY MEDIATOR.
WHICH IS STILL IN NATURE NO MATTER WHAT,TO KEEP IT ALIVE, AND FUNCTIONING.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Charles
Quote JESUS’SPIRIT WAS USED BY THE FATHER,THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT TO CREATE EVERY SPECIES IN NATURE FOR THE FIRST TIME,AND THEN NATURE, THROUGH THAT PARTICULAR FIRST ONE, PRODUCED QUANTITIES OF IT. God created Jesus as a spirit being ,called THE WORD of GOD ,the holy spirit is not used of what we know prior to men creation ,
Quote THREE SPIRITS, THE FATHER, THE SPIRIT OF LOVE
THE SON, THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM,
AND THE HOLY SPIRIT THE SPIRIT OF POWER,
IN ORDER TO CREATE ALL.
BUT ALL IN THE SON'S SPIRIT, THE MOST POWERFULL SPIRIT,AS THE ONLY MEDIATOR.
WHICH IS STILL IN NATURE NO MATTER WHAT,TO KEEP IT ALIVE, AND FUNCTIONING.
this is purely your own fabrication ,you do not know God or his son ,the trinity is still doing is demolition in your mind and soul,
Charles
Quote Notice: it says HERB, not HERBS, SO IT IS REFERRING TO THE FIRST EVER CREATURE IN THE PLANT PROCESS IN THIS CASE THE HERB, THAT PARTICULAR FIRST HERB, SINCE IT WAS CREATED FOR THE FIRST TIME, Ge 1:11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so.
Ge 1:12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
Ge 1:13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.I can not follow you ,you are lost
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