JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

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    jammin
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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2013,13:46)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 28 2013,12:25)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 28 2013,01:55)
    Jammin………Your problem is, you have not a clue boy what a Spiirt (IS). All spirits in a Man are manifested in flesh. God is a SPIRIT and can be manifested in anyones Flesh by “IT” INDWELLING “IN” HIM> GOD was “IN” Jesus Reconciling the World unto Himself. Not that God was Jesus as you falsely “assume”. Get it Boy? Just believe what Jesus Said “the Father is “IN” Me”.

     When did Jesus ever say he was the Father? Did Jesus pray to himself when he prayed. Jammin you have taken the Trinitarian and Preexistences Bait boy and it has messed you up boy.

    peace and love to you and yours Jammin………………………………………………..gene


    can you give me version that says in 1 tim 3.16 that GOD WAS IN HIM??


    Hi Jammin,

    “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself,
    not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us
    “The Word”(HolySpirit) of reconciliation.” (2 Corinthians 5:19)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    i said 1 tim 3.16

    why are you giving me corinthians boy?

    the meaning of 1tim 3.16 is not the same in cor

    do you know how to read>?

    1 tim 3.16 talks about that the son(christ) who is God came as a human.

    1 Timothy 3:16

    Contemporary English Version (CEV)

    16 Here is the great mystery of our religion:

    Christ[a] came as a human.

    1 Timothy 3:16

    21st Century King James Version (KJ21)

    16 And beyond controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh,

    #330473
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 28 2013,13:50)

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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2013,09:49)
    Hi Charles,   (Here is Jesus' lineage chart again for you to study)

                            Jesus lineage explained

    “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
    “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
    “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

    At birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
    At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)

    Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…

                       Mother         Father
                        Mary         HolySpirit
                         50%           50%
                             \              /
                               \          /
                                 Jesus
                                /        \
                              /            \        
                            /                \
                  Son of Man     Son of God
                 (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    there is no 50 50 in the bible.
    that only exist in your imagination


    Hi Jammin,

    If you choose to not believe
    the bible's teachings, that
    is your choice to make.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    it is not in the bible. it only exist in your imagination.

    give me verse that says Christ is 50% human and 50% God.


    Hi Jammin,

    Matt 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as
    his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came
    together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.
    I even underlined the specific part of the verse.  

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    there is not 50 50 in the bible. i dont need stories. i want verse.
    where can you read that it says Christ is 50% human and 50% son of God

    #330486
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,

    Your not alone: when it comes to Jesus, the meaning of “Son”
    somehow changes meaning to allow to allow for one's dogma.
    How do you define the term “Son” in Jesus' relation to God?     <– please answer

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #330511
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 27 2013,07:00)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 26 2013,13:40)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 24 2013,23:57)

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    he cant be a servant of his own boy.


    And who is he a servant of?  Do you agree that when scripture says Jesus is a servant of “God”, the word “God” is referring to the one and only Almighty God who created all things?  YES or NO?


    it depends on the context.


    Okay, here is the context:

    Acts 3:13
    The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.

    In the above context, is Jesus the servant of the one and only Almighty God, who created all things?


    i have a question for you
    who is the God in tim 3.16?


    There is no “God” mentioned in that scripture, jammin.  

    Now please answer MY question.


    are you sure


    Yes, quite sure thank you.  You can read my last post to you in the 1 Tim thread if you want.

    In the mean time, please answer the question I asked you a week ago.  I bolded and supersized it in the quote box above, for easy viewing.

    #330520
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2013,11:17)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 27 2013,07:00)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 26 2013,13:40)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 24 2013,23:57)

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    he cant be a servant of his own boy.


    And who is he a servant of?  Do you agree that when scripture says Jesus is a servant of “God”, the word “God” is referring to the one and only Almighty God who created all things?  YES or NO?


    it depends on the context.


    Okay, here is the context:

    Acts 3:13
    The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.

    In the above context, is Jesus the servant of the one and only Almighty God, who created all things?


    i have a question for you
    who is the God in tim 3.16?


    There is no “God” mentioned in that scripture, jammin.  

    Now please answer MY question.


    are you sure


    Yes, quite sure thank you.  You can read my last post to you in the 1 Tim thread if you want.

    In the mean time, please answer the question I asked you a week ago.  I bolded and supersized it in the quote box above, for easy viewing.


    do you have the original copy of the bible?

    #330521
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,07:56)
    Hi Jammin,

    Your not alone: when it comes to Jesus, the meaning of “Son”
    somehow changes meaning to allow to allow for one's dogma.
    How do you define the term “Son” in Jesus' relation to God?     <– please answer

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    i still have a question for you
    where can you read christ is 50%man and 50%son of God?

    #330532
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,13:01)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 24 2013,18:20)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,10:21)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,21:06)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 20 2013,04:34)

    he cant be a servant of his own boy.


    And who is he a servant of?  Do you agree that when scripture says Jesus is a servant of “God”, the word “God” is referring to the one and only Almighty God who created all things?  YES or NO?


    it depends on the context.


    Okay, here is the context:

    Acts 3:13
    The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.

    In the above context, is Jesus the servant of the one and only Almighty God, who created all things?


    jammin,

    I'm done talking to you until my question is answered.

    #330543
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 29 2013,11:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,07:56)
    Hi Jammin,

    Your not alone: when it comes to Jesus, the meaning of “Son”
    somehow changes meaning to allow to allow for one's dogma.
    How do you define the term “Son” in Jesus' relation to God?     <– please answer

    God bless
    Ed J


    i still have a question for you
    where can you read christ is 50%man and 50%son of God?


    Hi Jammin,

    As usual, you refuse to answer my questions. If you were to
    actually read my posts… I have answered that already: Matt 1:18

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #330575
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,16:04)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 29 2013,11:59)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,07:56)
    Hi Jammin,

    Your not alone: when it comes to Jesus, the meaning of “Son”
    somehow changes meaning to allow to allow for one's dogma.
    How do you define the term “Son” in Jesus' relation to God?     <– please answer

    God bless
    Ed J


    i still have a question for you
    where can you read christ is 50%man and 50%son of God?


    Hi Jammin,

    As usual, you refuse to answer my questions. If you were to
    actually read my posts… I have answered that already: Matt 1:18

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    i still have questions for you.
    remember you did not give any verse that says Christ is 50% man and 50% son of God

    let me post mat1.18
    Matthew 1:18

    New International Version (NIV)
    Joseph Accepts Jesus as His Son

    18 This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about[a]: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.

    there is no 50 50 there boy LOL
    i cant read your imagination in mat 1.18
    it only exits in your imagination LOl

    #330576
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 29 2013,12:47)

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    he cant be a servant of his own boy.


    And who is he a servant of?  Do you agree that when scripture says Jesus is a servant of “God”, the word “God” is referring to the one and only Almighty God who created all things?  YES or NO?


    it depends on the context.


    Okay, here is the context:

    Acts 3:13
    The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.

    In the above context, is Jesus the servant of the one and only Almighty God, who created all things?


    jammin,

    I'm done talking to you until my question is answered.


    now you are trying to ignore the truth in 1tim 3.16

    LOL

    do you have the original copy of the bible?
    i know you will answer a big NO

    LOL

    you cant deny the truth mike. true Christians believe that the father is God. they also believe that the son is like his father. the son is also God by nature.

    thomas said to Christ, my Lord and my God.

    #330632
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Answer the question, jammin.

    #330699
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2013,11:54)
    Answer the question, jammin.


    your question is incomplete.
    you should say the God who created all things thru Christ

    #330715
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,07:56)
    Hi Jammin,

    How do you define the term “Son” in Jesus' relation to God?     <– please answer

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Jammin?

    #330717
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2013,17:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,07:56)
    Hi Jammin,

    How do you define the term “Son” in Jesus' relation to God?     <– please answer

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Jammin?


    have you finished your own version?

    #330762
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 31 2013,19:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2013,17:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,07:56)
    Hi Jammin,

    How do you define the term “Son” – in Jesus' relation to God?     <– please answer

    God bless
    Ed J  


    Jammin?


    have you finished your own version?


    Hi Jammin,

    Will you please answer my question?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #330807
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2013,13:06)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 31 2013,19:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2013,17:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,07:56)
    Hi Jammin,

    How do you define the term “Son” – in Jesus' relation to God?     <– please answer

    God bless
    Ed J  


    Jammin?


    have you finished your own version?


    Hi Jammin,

    Will you please answer my question?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    this is my answer

    how do you define the term son in ed's relation to his father?

    #330808
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Feb. 01 2013,19:00)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2013,13:06)

    Quote (jammin @ Jan. 31 2013,19:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 31 2013,17:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2013,07:56)
    Hi Jammin,

    How do you define the term “Son” – in Jesus' relation to God?     <– please answer

    God bless
    Ed J  


    Jammin?


    have you finished your own version?


    Hi Jammin,

    Will you please answer my question?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    this is my answer

    how do you define the term son in ed's relation to his father?


    The same

    #331010
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2013,13:11)
    [/quote]
    768

    Ed wrote:


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    Tell me how is it that you believe that Jesus was human
    if you also believe no part of him was actually human?

    Edj,

    There's a big difference between a human and  A PERFECT HUMAN.

    JESUS, WAS IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN.

    THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE OWNED THE SAME FLESH AND BLOOD SUBSTANCE AS OURS HUMANS!

    JESUS CONFIRMED:

    JOHN 8:23And he said to them: You are from beneath,  HELL,SATAN’S I am from above. HEAVEN GOD’S You are of this world, SATAN’S I am not of this world.

    John 14:30 I will not now speak many things with you. For the prince of this world cometh, and IN ME  HE HATH NOT ANY THING .

    SO JESUS  HAD NOTHING FROM THIS SATAN’S WORLD, NOT A SPECK.

    OURS IS A COMPLETE DIFFERENT WAY . THROUGH HELL SATAN’S.

    NOW THE WORD, JESUS TO BE AS WE ALL KNOW, WAS WITH GOD, AND THE WORD WAS GOD.

    SO THE WORD WAS NOT JUST ONE SPIRIT! SINCE IT WAS ALSO GOD!

    BUT THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN!

    AND WITHIN THE HOLY SPIRIT THERE WAS THEFATHER!

    SO THE WORD WAS  THE GODHEAD

    THE TRIUNE GOD IN THE SON’S SPIRIT AS THE WORD

    SO THE WORD CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT CONCEIVED MARY, THE EX SON’S SPIRIT THROUGH CREATION AND BECAME MAN!

    NOW IS THAT ACCORDING TO YOU A HUMAN BEING IN THE SAME SUBSTANCE AS OURS?

    OR EVEN WORST:

    IS THAT A 50% HUMAN IN THE SAME SUBSTANCE LIKE OURS, AND A 50% GOD'S SUSBSTANCE?

    AND IF IT IS SO THEN AS YOU BLASPHEME,WOULD THAT MAKE JESUS A PERFECT MAN?

    DIDN'T JESUS SAY :

    BE PERFECT LIKE THE FATHER IS PERFECT SO IN ORDER FOR JESUS TO BE A PERFECT MAN HE MUST BE ENTIRELY  GOD’S SPIRIT SUBSTANCE !!!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #331011
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 03 2013,01:11)
    Edj,

    IS THAT A 50% HUMAN IN THE SAME SUBSTANCE LIKE OURS, AND A 50% GOD'S SUSBSTANCE?

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    That is what the Scripture is telling us about Jesus lineage:

                        Mary         HolySpirit
                         50%           50%
                             \              /
                               \          /
                                 Jesus
                                /        \
                              /            \        
                            /                \
                  Son of Man     Son of God
                 (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35)

    “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
    “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
    “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #331158
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2013,01:31)

    Quote (carmel @ Feb. 03 2013,01:11)
    Edj,

    IS THAT A 50% HUMAN IN THE SAME SUBSTANCE LIKE OURS, AND A 50% GOD'S SUSBSTANCE?

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    That is what the Scripture is telling us about Jesus lineage:

                        Mary         HolySpirit
                         50%           50%
                             \              /
                               \          /
                                 Jesus
                                /        \
                              /            \        
                            /                \
                  Son of Man     Son of God
                 (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35)

    “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
    “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
    “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


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    That is what the Scripture is telling us about Jesus lineage:

    Edj,

    which scripture?

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