JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2013,11:27)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2013,06:46) Quote (jammin @ Jan. 16 2013,11:48) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,20:18) Quote (jammin @ Jan. 15 2013,19:37) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,17:17) Hi Jammin, Are you suggesting that “I Change Not” exclusively means I don't change my mind?   (Yes  or  No) God bless Ed J i know you do not know how to read the context of the bible. Hi Jammin, Now that we established what my question really is. And now that you're through with giving me a speech…     WILL YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION? God bless Ed J do you now agree that your explanation in mal 3.6 is not really in the bible? did you read my explanation about mal 3.6? Hi Jammin, Is your answer “Yes” then?      …or “No”? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org i cant answer a yes or no

I can, the answer is “no”!

[mikeboll64]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 16 2013,18:00)

Mike, 1) John wrote of both the Word and the Word of life.

John wrote of “the Word of God” in Revelation 19.  From the context, we can be sure that the person named “the Word of God” is Jesus Christ.

John later wrote of “the Word [of God]” in his gospel.  Again, from the context, we can be sure that the person named “the Word” in that book is Jesus Christ.

John later wrote of “the Word of Life” in 1 John 1.  And once again, from the context, we can be sure that the person named “the Word of Life” in that letter is Jesus Christ.

Kerwin, you have put all the puzzle pieces together in Revelation 19, and have figured out that “the Word of God” is Jesus Christ.

You have not put them together in John and 1 John yet, mainly because your PERSONAL DOCTRINE is fighting to keep you from finishing those two puzzles.  I have faith that God will eventually lead you to finish those puzzles like you finished the Revelation puzzle.

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 16 2013,18:00)

2) Jesus may be called by the name of the Word previous to the Supper of the Great God.

Fantastic.  jammin will be happy to know that you've retracted your original claim that “the Word of God” is strictly a FUTURE name of Jesus Christ.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 15 2013,18:48)

did you read my explanation about mal 3.6?

James 1:17 NET ©
All generous giving and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or the slightest hint of change.

[mikeboll64]

Psalm 102:27 NIV ©
But you remain the same, and your years will never end.

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 17 2013,12:24)

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 15 2013,18:48) did you read my explanation about mal 3.6? James 1:17 NET © All generous giving and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or the slightest hint of change.

LOL

this is very obvious mike. it only tells that you do not know the the meaning of mal 3.6
LOL

why dont you accept the truth that you do not know the meaning of mal 3.6 LOL

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2013,12:02)

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2013,11:27) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2013,06:46) Quote (jammin @ Jan. 16 2013,11:48) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,20:18) Quote (jammin @ Jan. 15 2013,19:37) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,17:17) Hi Jammin, Are you suggesting that “I Change Not” exclusively means I don't change my mind?   (Yes  or  No) God bless Ed J i know you do not know how to read the context of the bible. Hi Jammin, Now that we established what my question really is. And now that you're through with giving me a speech…     WILL YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION? God bless Ed J do you now agree that your explanation in mal 3.6 is not really in the bible? did you read my explanation about mal 3.6? Hi Jammin, Is your answer “Yes” then?      …or “No”? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org i cant answer a yes or no I can, the answer is “no”!

how can you say no if you do not know the meaning of mal 3.6? LOL

poor ed

you always do this. altering the word of God.
like what you are saying in john 1.1. you said the Word is the HS but no version supports your imagination. also, commentaries do not support your imagination LOL
and now you are doing it again in mal 3.6 LOL

for God sake ed. the year is 2013 and i think you should start changing your attitude boy LOL

do not alter the word of God. do not put your imagination and say to people that this is the correct meaning of the verse

you must know how to read the context.

[jammin]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2013,11:35)

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2013,06:23) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 17 2013,07:13) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2013,01:44) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 16 2013,06:05) Quote (jammin @ Jan. 15 2013,14:45) New International Version (NIV) Jammin, You are doing better on you choice of translations. Hi Wakeup, Why would Jammin be doing better choosing a corrupt translation? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed J. It is better than either a thought to thought translation or one full of commentary when both are by those that are not carried along by the Spirit. I presently use the KJV and know it is far from being free of error.  Translator bias is expected and I do not follow the teachings of the Anglican Church, nor do I acknowledge the Royal of England as the head of God's church. The Textus Receptus is more accurate than the KJV and some of it is translated from the Latin Vulgate. bias?? you said bias bec it does not support your view. even commentaries do not support your views. you know why? bec your doctrine is not in the bible. therefore, you are just making stories. LOL your doctrine is full of stories. how can people believe to those people like you saying words that are not in the bible. you are blind kerwin. i gave a word for word verse for you in the bible and yet you dont believe that truth may God open your eyes Jammin, I stated bias because bias is the norm, of which I know of no exception. I state that certain people lack knowledge because their words display a lack of knowledge. Anyone who tells me Jehovah changed and became able to be tempted by sin does not know what they are talking about. God compels me to look into matters so as to become more certain.

so you are full of wisdom huh? LOL

i cant imagine a person who is full of wisdom like you is talking about words that are NOT IN THE BIBLE.

you can say that kerwin if you can read your imagination in the bible. you must prove your doctrine. i give you verse. i give you a word for word in the bible and yet you do not accept those facts.
may God open your eyes

[kerwin]

Jammin,

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so you are full of wisdom huh? LOL i cant imagine a person who is full of wisdom like you is talking about words that are NOT IN THE BIBLE. you can say that kerwin if you can read your imagination in the bible. you must prove your doctrine. i give you verse. i give you a word for word in the bible and yet you do not accept those facts. may God open your eyes

You make accusation but fail to consider that it is indeed written that God does not change nor is God tempted by evil.

Those that believe he does are either ignorant or corrupt and so prone to misinterpret things. About such men it is said “adders' poison is under their lips.”

To know these things is a sign of Wisdom.

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2013,19:44)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2013,12:02) Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2013,11:27) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,17:17) Hi Jammin, Are you suggesting that “I Change Not” exclusively means I don't change my mind?   (Yes  or  No) God bless Ed J i cant answer a yes or no I can, the answer is “no”! how can you say no if you do not know the meaning of mal 3.6? LOL

Hi Jammin,

Not exclusively from Malachi 3:6, but there are others as well; here is another:
“God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent:
 hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?” (Num 23:19)

And just in case you didn't know, “The Son of Man” is Jesus.
So GOD doesn't change, and HE isn't “The Son of Man”.
Those FACTS do not sit well with your doctrine.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
PS. I do know the meaning of Malachi 3:6.

[carmel]

Ed wrote:

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And just in case you didn't know, “The Son of Man” is Jesus. So GOD doesn't change, and HE isn't “The Son of Man”.

Edj,

WRONG:

JESUS IS NOT SON OF MAN

BUT

SON OF MAN AND SON OF GOD!!!

OK???

THAT MEANS THAT GOD IS NOT MAN,

BUT MAN/GOD IN JESUS' SOUL

THAT MEANS THAT GOD IS NOT SON OF MAN,

BUT SON OF MAN AND SON OF GOD IN JESUS' SOUL.

SO:

“God is not a man, that he should lie; SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON TO ESTABLISH

THE TRUTH, MAN/GOD

neither the son of man, that he should repent: SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON TO ESTABLISH

THE SON OF MAN AND SON OF GOD SINLESS

THEREFORE:

hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?” (Num 23:19)

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[Ed J]

Hi Charles,

JESUS IS NOT [JUST THE] SON OF MAN

BUT

[THE] SON OF MAN AND [THE] SON OF GOD!!!

In this, I agree.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

Quote (carmel @ Jan. 17 2013,14:58)

“God is not a man, that he should lie; SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON TO ESTABLISH THE TRUTH, MAN/GOD

Charles,

Why don't you believe the words you yourself just wrote?

God is not a man, SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON.

Get it? God Himself did not send God Himself. He sent HIS SON.

Jesus is the SON OF God – not God Himself.

I also agree with you and Ed that Jesus is both the “Son of Man”, and the “Son of God”.

[jammin]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2013,04:35)

Jammin, Quote so you are full of wisdom huh? LOL i cant imagine a person who is full of wisdom like you is talking about words that are NOT IN THE BIBLE. you can say that kerwin if you can read your imagination in the bible. you must prove your doctrine. i give you verse. i give you a word for word in the bible and yet you do not accept those facts. may God open your eyes You make accusation but fail to consider that it is indeed written that God does not change nor is God tempted by evil. Those that believe he does are either ignorant or corrupt and so prone to misinterpret things. About such men it is said “adders' poison is under their lips.” To know these things is a sign of Wisdom.

you do not know those things kerwin. in fact, what you are saying are just stories. they cant be read in the bible.
what i say to you is written, but you dont like to believe the truth

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2013,05:17)

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2013,19:44) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2013,12:02) Quote (jammin @ Jan. 17 2013,11:27) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 15 2013,17:17) Hi Jammin, Are you suggesting that “I Change Not” exclusively means I don't change my mind?   (Yes  or  No) God bless Ed J i cant answer a yes or no I can, the answer is “no”! how can you say no if you do not know the meaning of mal 3.6? LOL Hi Jammin, Not exclusively from Malachi 3:6, but there are others as well; here is another: “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent:  hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?” (Num 23:19) And just in case you didn't know, “The Son of Man” is Jesus. So GOD doesn't change, and HE isn't “The Son of Man”. Those FACTS do not sit well with your doctrine. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org PS. I do know the meaning of Malachi 3:6.

thanks for saying that you do not understand mal 3.6
it only proves you are a false teacher.

now you are using num 23.19
did the verse say GOD WILL NOT BECOME HUMAN or GOD IS NOT A MAN?

those two sentences are different boy. go back to school and study english

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2013,10:02)

Quote (carmel @ Jan. 17 2013,14:58) “God is not a man, that he should lie; SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON TO ESTABLISH THE TRUTH, MAN/GOD Charles, Why don't you believe the words you yourself just wrote? God is not a man, SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON. Get it?  God Himself did not send God Himself.  He sent HIS SON. Jesus is the SON OF God – not God Himself. I also agree with you and Ed that Jesus is both the “Son of Man”, and the “Son of God”.

Christ is not the father. of course that is what the bible says.
but Christ is also God by nature just like his father.

[terraricca]

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 18 2013,12:12)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2013,10:02) Quote (carmel @ Jan. 17 2013,14:58) “God is not a man, that he should lie; SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON TO ESTABLISH THE TRUTH, MAN/GOD Charles, Why don't you believe the words you yourself just wrote? God is not a man, SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON. Get it?  God Himself did not send God Himself.  He sent HIS SON. Jesus is the SON OF God – not God Himself. I also agree with you and Ed that Jesus is both the “Son of Man”, and the “Son of God”. Christ is not the father. of course that is what the bible says. but Christ is also God by nature just like his father.

What then you mean is that Christ his also A God right

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 18 2013,12:12)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2013,10:02) Quote (carmel @ Jan. 17 2013,14:58) “God is not a man, that he should lie; SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON TO ESTABLISH THE TRUTH, MAN/GOD Charles, Why don't you believe the words you yourself just wrote? God is not a man, SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON. Get it?  God Himself did not send God Himself.  He sent HIS SON. Jesus is the SON OF God – not God Himself. I also agree with you and Ed that Jesus is both the “Son of Man”, and the “Son of God”. Christ is not the father. of course that is what the bible says. but Christ is also God by nature just like his father.

Jammin,

Those words are just confusion as there is only one God. You are there either claiming:

1) The Father is Yawheh and the Son is not.
2) The Father are both titles of Yawheh.
3) That 2=1 otherwise 2 Yawhehs = 1 Yawheh.

The third is what you seem to be claiming and that is just bad math; and so confusion.

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 18 2013,12:06)

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2013,04:35) Jammin, Quote so you are full of wisdom huh? LOL i cant imagine a person who is full of wisdom like you is talking about words that are NOT IN THE BIBLE. you can say that kerwin if you can read your imagination in the bible. you must prove your doctrine. i give you verse. i give you a word for word in the bible and yet you do not accept those facts. may God open your eyes You make accusation but fail to consider that it is indeed written that God does not change nor is God tempted by evil. Those that believe he does are either ignorant or corrupt and so prone to misinterpret things. About such men it is said “adders' poison is under their lips.” To know these things is a sign of Wisdom. you do not know those things kerwin. in fact, what you are saying are just stories. they cant be read in the bible. what i say to you is written, but you dont like to believe the truth

Jammin,

If you know God you do not actually have to read these things to know they are true. None the less they are written in Scripture. I just do not see it beneficial to point at them as you either believe them or not. Perhaps at a different time the Spirit will compel me to look but it was Bereans who with nobility for searching Scripture and not Paul.

[jammin]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2013,18:12)

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 18 2013,12:12) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2013,10:02) Quote (carmel @ Jan. 17 2013,14:58) “God is not a man, that he should lie; SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON TO ESTABLISH THE TRUTH, MAN/GOD Charles, Why don't you believe the words you yourself just wrote? God is not a man, SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON. Get it?  God Himself did not send God Himself.  He sent HIS SON. Jesus is the SON OF God – not God Himself. I also agree with you and Ed that Jesus is both the “Son of Man”, and the “Son of God”. Christ is not the father. of course that is what the bible says. but Christ is also God by nature just like his father. What then you mean is that Christ his also A God right

of course. are not you A MAN by nature?

[jammin]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2013,19:23)

Quote (jammin @ Jan. 18 2013,12:12) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2013,10:02) Quote (carmel @ Jan. 17 2013,14:58) “God is not a man, that he should lie; SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON TO ESTABLISH THE TRUTH, MAN/GOD Charles, Why don't you believe the words you yourself just wrote? God is not a man, SO HE SENT HIS OWN SON. Get it?  God Himself did not send God Himself.  He sent HIS SON. Jesus is the SON OF God – not God Himself. I also agree with you and Ed that Jesus is both the “Son of Man”, and the “Son of God”. Christ is not the father. of course that is what the bible says. but Christ is also God by nature just like his father. Jammin, Those words are just confusion as there is only one God.  You are there either claiming: 1) The Father is Yawheh and the Son is not. 2) The Father are both titles of Yawheh. 3) That 2=1 otherwise 2 Yawhehs = 1 Yawheh. The third is what you seem to be claiming and that is just bad math; and so confusion.

you are confused bec you dont know the real God,.

of course the father is not the son. did i say that the father is also the son?
of course not LOL

the father is not the son
the son is not the father

BUT THEY HAVE THE SAME NATURE, GOD.

example,

you and your father. you are not your father. but you have the same nature, MAN.

one nature< MAN.
you are not alien and man. you are a MAN. you only have one nature and that is your human nature.

Christ and his father are two in numbers. two persons but one in essence or narture, God.
that is the true teachings of the bible.

you can read john 1.1-14 phil 2.6
read it ask knowledge from God. may God open your eyes

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