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Quote (jammin @ Nov. 21 2012,13:26) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,20:54) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 20 2012,19:57) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,14:26) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 20 2012,11:54) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,01:52) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 19 2012,15:02) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 18 2012,22:54) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 18 2012,22:13) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,16:29) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 16 2012,21:52) who is that YHVH ed?
Hi Jammin,“YHVH is GOD”(117)
God bless
Ed J
who is that YHVH GOD? who is the GOD you are referring to?
Hi Jammin,If you don't know him,
I suggest you do get to know him.“YHVH”(63) is the God of “The Bible”(63).
“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (YHVH,)
the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” (John 17:3)God bless
Ed J
why cant you answer me?who is the GOD you are referring to?
Hi Jammin,YHVH (יהוה) is the Judeo-Christian “GOD” of The Bible.
God bless
Ed J
PS. Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over?
cant you answer my question ed?? is it hard for you to answer?who is the GOD you are referring to?
who is that judeo-christian GOD?
Hi Jammin,“I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of
God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.” (Ex 6:3)God bless
Ed J
who is that jehovah?
God
who is that GOD? why cant you answer my question boy LOL
Hi Jammin,יהוה YÄ-hä-vā (YHVH) is God's name, but most
English-speaking people say God's name as JEHOVAH.I answered your question “FIVE” times now.
What specifically do you want to know?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote That means God would be taking up the space that you and I take up. And that would mean that God was you and I, and you and I are God Almighty. Mike,
GOD IS LIFE NO???
SO NOTHING ALIVE EXIST WITHOUT GOD, SINCE ALL IS IN JESUS!!!
and JESUS IS GOD!!!
Therefore God Almighty is in you and I.
So it DOESN'T mean that God would be taking up the space that you and I take up???
therefore it is not also means that wherever there are creatures,there's also God???
If wherever there are creatures there's God, it is not OMNIPRESENCE THEN???
WHY SHOULD GOD BE WHEREVER THERE ARE NO CREATURES???
ALSO IN THE SPACE BETWEEN YOU AND ME THERE'S DEFINITELY LIFE ,OTHERWISE IT WON'T BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO MOVE!!!
UNLESS WE DIE!!!
SO IF THERE'S LIFE IN THE SPACE BETWEEN YOU AND ME,THERE'S ALSO GOD!!!
SINCE GOD IS LIFE!!!
SO WHAT, AND WHO IS CAPABLE TO DETERMINE WHEREVER THERE'S AN EMPTY SPACE THERE IS OR THERE ISN'T GOD???
CONSIDERING THE FACT
THAT WHAT WE BELEIVE IS AN EMPTY SPACE IN THE UNVERSE ISN'T EMPTY AT ALL, BUT IT IS COMPLETELY DARK ENERGY AND DARK MATTER
SO!
ISN'T GOD OMNIPRESENCE???
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 22 2012,02:32) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 21 2012,13:26) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,20:54) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 20 2012,19:57) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,14:26) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 20 2012,11:54) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,01:52) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 19 2012,15:02) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 18 2012,22:54) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 18 2012,22:13) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 17 2012,16:29) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 16 2012,21:52) who is that YHVH ed?
Hi Jammin,“YHVH is GOD”(117)
God bless
Ed J
who is that YHVH GOD? who is the GOD you are referring to?
Hi Jammin,If you don't know him,
I suggest you do get to know him.“YHVH”(63) is the God of “The Bible”(63).
“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee (YHVH,)
the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” (John 17:3)God bless
Ed J
why cant you answer me?who is the GOD you are referring to?
Hi Jammin,YHVH (יהוה) is the Judeo-Christian “GOD” of The Bible.
God bless
Ed J
PS. Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over?
cant you answer my question ed?? is it hard for you to answer?who is the GOD you are referring to?
who is that judeo-christian GOD?
Hi Jammin,“I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of
God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.” (Ex 6:3)God bless
Ed J
who is that jehovah?
God
who is that GOD? why cant you answer my question boy LOL
Hi Jammin,יהוה YÄ-hä-vā (YHVH) is God's name, but most
English-speaking people say God's name as JEHOVAH.I answered your question “FIVE” times now.
What specifically do you want to know?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
who is that JEHOVAH??Christ is called jehovah.
who is the GOD you are referring to?
the father is God
the son is GodQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 22 2012,11:45) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 22 2012,11:39) Christ is called jehovah.
No he isn't.
yes he is
mat 3.3
For this was he of whom it was said by Isaiah the Prophet, “A voice that cries in the desert, 'Prepare the way of THE LORD JEHOVAH and level his paths'.”sorry boy
Quote (jammin @ Nov. 22 2012,17:08) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 22 2012,11:45) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 22 2012,11:39) Christ is called jehovah.
No he isn't.
yes he is
mat 3.3
For this was he of whom it was said by Isaiah the Prophet, “A voice that cries in the desert, 'Prepare the way of THE LORD JEHOVAH and level his paths'.”sorry boy
Hi Jammin,Yes, the way of The LORD JEHOVAH was prepared when John the baptist baptized Jesus. (John 1:14)
“How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolySpirit(John 1:14) and with power: who went about
doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with(/within) him.” (Acts 10:38)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgthat LORD in mat 3.3 is Christ.
the bible said that. john the baptist said that to jesusWesley's Notes
3:3 The way of the Lord – Of Christ. Make his paths straight – By removing every thing which might prove a hinderance to his gracious appearance. Isaiah 40:3.
the book of luke also said that Christ is JEHOVAH
luke 2.11
“For today, The Savior has been born to you, who is THE LORD JEHOVAH The Messiah, in the city of David.”sorry boy. you are a false teacher. you do not have a match for the word of GOD
Hi Jammin,
No, Luke 2:11 does NOT say that; here is what Luke 2:11 actually says:
“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior,
which is Christ the Lord.” (Luke 2:11)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (carmel @ Nov. 21 2012,00:45) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 21 2012,12:01) So then Jesus was “FULLY GLORIFIED” when he said that his God was also our God? 
Mike,
No!!!
That was 04.00 in the MORNING.
If you keep on reading you will have your answer.
Hi Charles,First of all, you have no scriptural indication of when Jesus was “fully glorified” – especially of what time of day it was.
Secondly, it doesn't really matter, because Jesus STILL refers to Jehovah as “my God” in Revelation – while he is in heaven at the right hand of his God and our God.
Quote (carmel @ Nov. 21 2012,15:22) Quote That means God would be taking up the space that you and I take up. And that would mean that God was you and I, and you and I are God Almighty. Therefore God Almighty is in you and I.
Charles,I don't want to get into this omnipresent thing. Like the trinity doctrine and the belief that there LITERALLY exists only one god, it is a tradition of MEN, that has been passed down through the generations.
I will prove to you that God is not omnipresent using one scripture:
Exodus 33:3
Go up to the land flowing with milk and honey. But I will not go with you, because you are a stiff-necked people and I might destroy you on the way.”If God was truly omnipresent, there would never even be a possibility of Him “not going with” the Israelites, because He would already BE anywhere they are, and anywhere they were going. Not only that, but He would already be taking up every atom of space that made up the nation of Israel, and therefore would have BEEN the nation of Israel.
mikeboll64,Nov. wrote:[/quote]
Quote First of all, you have no scriptural indication of when Jesus was “fully glorified” – especially of what time of day it was.
Mike,
Here is your indication:
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonas was in the whale's belly three days and three nights: so shall the Son of man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights.
Using Jewish time,
Can you work that out???
since He died Friday at three in the afternoon???
Or shall I do it for you???
Quote Secondly, it doesn't really matter, because Jesus STILL refers to Jehovah as “my God” in Revelation IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT JESUS CALL HIS FATHER!!!
THE FATHER ALSO CALLED JESUS GOD!!!
Hebrews 1:8 But to the Son: Thy throne,
O GOD,
is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of
THY KINGDOM.
OK???
HE CALLED HIM GOD,
AND ALSO HIS SON'S KINGDOM
AND SINCE HE IS HIS SON,
HE IS ALSO HIS SON GOD,
OR HIS GOD AS WELL!!!
SINCE HE IS IN A DIFFERENT STATE AND BELONG TO HIM!!!
SIMILAR TO GOD'S KINGDOM,WHICH IS THE SON'S KINGDOM!!!
ALSO
JESUS CONFIRMED TO MAGDALENE THAT HE IS THE TRUE GOD:
John 20:17 ………..But go to my brethren, and say to them: I ascend to my Father and to your Father, to my God and your God.
NOW:
CONSIDERING :
ASCEND TO
DEFINED AS :
ASCEND TO A HIGHER DEGREE IN VIEW OF
It WOULD MEAN:
GO TO MY BRETHREN, AND SAY TO THEM :
I GLORIFY AS MY FATHER,AND AS YOUR FATHER,AS MY GOD, AND YOUR GOD.
SO HE CONFIRMED THAT HE IS GOD IN THE TRUTH,
SINCE HE GLORIFIED BOTH SPIRITUAL (WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT)AS HIS GOD , AND CARNAL (IN HIMSELF)AS THEIR GOD.
WHILE THE FATHER IS STILL UP TO NOW AS A SPIRIT ONLY
SO THE FACT THAT HE SAID, MY FATHER,AND MY GOD, IT MADE JESUS MORE THE TRUE GOD!!! SINCE HE WAS DISCRIBING HIS UNIQUE STATE!!!
IN FACT JESUS CHRIST IS IN COMMAND AS THE TRUE GOD OF BOTH HEAVEN AND EARTH,
BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH CREATURES.
AND THE ENTIRE CRATURES ARE ALL SUBJECT TO HIM!!!
WHILE THE FATHER IS PLEASED TO HAVE HIS FULNESS IN A HIS GOD ,SINCE HE IS IN HIS SON THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT.
NEXT TO HIM ON HIS RIGHT HAND.
AFTER ALL HE HIMSELF EXALTED HIM AS THE TRUE GOD!!!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote If God was truly omnipresent, there would never even be a possibility of Him “not going with” the Israelites, because He would already BE anywhere they are, and anywhere they were going. Not only that, but He would already be taking up every atom of space that made up the nation of Israel, and therefore would have BEEN the nation of Israel. Mike,
the above is a proof that you take scripture LITERALLY ONLY.
I will not go with you,
GOD NEVER LEAVE HIS CREATURES AS SUCH OTHERWISE THEY WILL NOT EXIST,
DO YOU FEEL GOD WITHIN YOU???
DON'T YOU COMMIT ALL KIND OF EVIL STILL IF YOU WANT TO???
NOTHING EXISTS WITHOUT GOD'S SPIRIT WITHIN , NO MATTER WHAT!!!
SATAN HIMSELF EXISTS ONLY THROUGH THE SON'S SPIRIT WITHIN HIM AS A MEDIATOR AS LIFE SOURCE.
DID YOU EVER REFLECTED ON THE EVENT OF THE FIG TREE WHICH JESUS ERADICATED TO PROVE TO SATAN THAT HIS(JESUS')SPIRIT IS THE LIFE SOURCE???
SATAN BELEIVED THAT HE WAS THE LIFE SOURCE OF THE WORLD,SINCE HE OWNED THE EARTH.
HE BELEIVED THAT
HE WAS AUTONOMOUS!!!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 23 2012,00:33) Hi Jammin, No, Luke 2:11 does NOT say that; here is what Luke 2:11 actually says:
“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior,
which is Christ the Lord.” (Luke 2:11)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
the Word Lord there refers to jehovah.the version is correct
translators know what they are doing. they know the language better than you boy LOL
make your own bible
Quote So you think that Satan was in the soul of the one you say is “God in flesh”? You think God in flesh had to obey Satan?
Mike,
Jesus, first obeyed the Father when he was one with Him and left Him in order for the Father to create all OUR CREATION
BY HIM.
Then He obeyed His parents,EXCEPT ONES AT THE AGE OF 12.
Then He obeyed His enemy throughout the 18 hidden years, AS SON OF MAN ONLY.
Then He lived BOTH AS THE REAL SON OF MAN,AND THE REAL SON OF GOD TO CARRY THE FATHER WITHIN HIM IN HIS FULNESS!!!
SO JESUS FIRST CARRIED SATAN’S SPIRIT SINCE BIRTH UP TO 30 YEARS.
THEN HE CARRIED GOD ALMIGHTY FOR THREE YEARS ON EARTH MAKING GOD THE FATHER IN FLESH FORM,THE FIRST EVER FORM GOD EVER HAD.
BEFORE HE WAS FORMLESS,JUST UNIQUE SPIRIT.
THEN THROUGH DEATH ITSELF,HE BECAME THE TRUE GOD IN BOTH
FLESH( HIS OWN SPIRIT THROUGH CREATION) AND SPIRIT OF THE FATHER ALL THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT.
NOW!
YOU REALY ARE SHORT OF THE REALITY OF GOD!!!
YOU DON'T EVEN RESPECT GOD AS HE IS:
LOVE
MEEK
HUMBLE
PATIENT
CHARITABLE
LOVE YOUR ENEMY AND DO GOOD TO WHOEVER THAT HATES YOU!!!
GOD DEMONSTARTED HIS POWER THROUGH HIS BENIGNITY NOT THROUGH HIS MAJESTY!!!
OTHERWISE BY USING HIS POWER OF HIS MAJESTY,HE WOULD BE LIKE HIS ENEMY!!!
GOD WON THROUGH DEATH ITSELF!!!
REFLECT ON THIS BECAUSE VERY, VERY FEW ARE AWARE THAT JESUS USED HIS DEATH TO GLORIFY WITH.
THIS TO SHOW SATAN THAT SINCE HE WAS THE POWER OF DEATH,THE EMPIRE OF DEATH,
DEATH BECAME HOLY,NO MORE CURSE THROUGH HIM!!!
JESUS BECAME CURSED FOR US,AND THROUGH THAT CURSE WE NO LONGER FEAR DEATH BECAUSE THROUGH IT WE END UP IN FRONT OF
THE TRUE GOD ,AND JESUS CHRIST.
NOT INFRONT OF THE FATHER!!!
AND IF WE LIVE IN HIM WHILE ON EARTH,
WE END UP IN HEAVEN WITHOUT THE NEED OF THE FATHER HIMSELF!!!
OBVIOUS!!!
BECAUSE JESUS ON THE CROSS DREW ALL THINGS ONTO HIMSELF.
Quote WHAT DID JESUS MEAN WITH THE WORDS:??? DRB:John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL THINGS to myself.
I honestly don't know, Charles.
I DON’T BLAME YOU!!!
JESUS ON THE CROSS BECAME:
BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH???
BOTH INVISIBLE AND VISIBLE???
BOTH LIGHT AND DARKNESS???
BOTH GODLY AND MANLY,
BOTH GOOD AND EVIL,
BOTH THE BEGINNING AND THE END,???
BOTH THE FIRST AND THE LAST,???
BOTH ALPHA AND OMEGA???
BOTH GOD AND SATAN,
BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON???
THAT THEY MAY KNOW YOU:
THE ONLY TRUE GOD,AND JESUS CHRIST
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Quote (carmel @ Nov. 23 2012,15:17) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 24 2012,04:27) First of all, you have no scriptural indication of when Jesus was “fully glorified” – especially of what time of day it was.
Mike,
Here is your indication:
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonas was in the whale's belly three days and three nights: so shall the Son of man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights.
Using Jewish time,
Can you work that out???
since He died Friday at three in the afternoon???
Or shall I do it for you???
Let's work it out together. You say Jesus died at 3:00 Friday afternoon. John 20:1 says that Mary came to the tomb “early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark”.So Friday night he was in the tomb. And all day Saturday (the Sabbath). And Saturday night. Then what?
Quote (carmel @ Nov. 23 2012,15:17) Quote (mikeboll @ 64) Secondly, it doesn't really matter, because Jesus STILL refers to Jehovah as “my God” in Revelation IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT JESUS CALL HIS FATHER!!!
THE FATHER ALSO CALLED JESUS GOD!!!
Hebrews 1:8 But to the Son: Thy throne,
O GOD,
is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of
THY KINGDOM.
Ah, but calling someone a god is a far cry from calling someone “MY God”, right? After all, the Father also called Satan “the god of Ekron”, right? Does that fact put Satan on equal status with God Almighty?Plus, consider the fact that Hebrews 1:8 is a quote from Psalm 45:6, which was written about a HUMAN KING. If this human king could be called “god” without actually being God Almighty, then why can't Jesus be called “god” without actually being God Almighty?
Charles, the bottom line is this: Jesus said that his God was also our God. So who do you think Jesus calls “my God” four different times in Revelation 3:12? Whoever Jesus is calling “my God” in that verse is also OUR God.
Quote (carmel @ Nov. 24 2012,00:38) JESUS ON THE CROSS BECAME: BOTH LIGHT AND DARKNESS
BOTH GOOD AND EVIL,
BOTH GOD AND SATAN,
Hmmmm…………………..charles
Quote JESUS ON THE CROSS BECAME: BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH???
BOTH INVISIBLE AND VISIBLE???
BOTH LIGHT AND DARKNESS???
BOTH GODLY AND MANLY,
BOTH GOOD AND EVIL,
BOTH THE BEGINNING AND THE END,???
BOTH THE FIRST AND THE LAST,???
BOTH ALPHA AND OMEGA???
BOTH GOD AND SATAN,
BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON???
THAT THEY MAY KNOW YOU:
THE ONLY TRUE GOD,AND JESUS CHRIST
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
even within your own statement you are false ,never mind the scriptures there you are way,way out
mikeboll64,Nov. wrote:[/quote]
Quote Hmmmm………………….. Mike,
With:
Hmmmm……………………
you get nowhere!!!
Contradict me!!!
say something which make sense in order to prove that I am wrong!!!!
OBVIOUS REFER TO SCRIPTURE!!!
ALL WHAT I WROTE IS SCRIPTURAL!!!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Okay Charles.
Was God Himself really on the stake? Did God Himself die at the hands of men?
Was Satan crucified on the stake? What scripture says so?
What happened to God and to Satan when Jesus was removed from the stake?
It seems that YOU need to scripturally support the odd things you often claim on this thread BEFORE any of us need to scripturally refute them.
Show me a scripture that says Jesus became Satan and God on the stake.
Show me how someone who wasn't God can “BECOME God on the stake”, when God is immutable.
I think “Hmmmmm…………………” sums it up just fine.
terraricca,Nov. wrote:[/quote]
Quote even within your own statement you are false ,never mind the scriptures there you are way,way out Terraricca,
FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS!!! Prove otherwise through scripture !!!
NOT JUST BLA! BLA! BLA! BLA!
Jesus confirmed:
IF I AM LIFTED UP,I DREW ALL THINGS ONTO MYSELF!!!
DO YOU WANT MORE PROOFS THEN THAT STATEMENT FROM THE MOUTH OF JESUS CHRIST???
IN YOUR OWN INTELIGENCE DEFINE WHAT ALL THINGS ARE!!!
AREN'T ALL THINGS MEAN WHATEVER EXIST STARTING WITH GOD HIMSELF???
CONSIDERING:
colossians 1:Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For in him were
ALL THINGS
created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers: a
ALL THINGS
were created by him and in him. 17 And he is before all, and by him
ALL THINGS
consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in
ALL THINGS
he may hold the primacy: 19 Because in him, it hath well pleased the Father, that
ALL FULLNESS
should dwell; 20 And through him to reconcile
ALL THINGS UNTO HIMSELF,
making peace through the blood of his cross, both as to the
THINGS
that are on earth, and the
THINGS
that are in heaven.
Now reflect:
Isaiah 45:14 Thus saith the Lord:
(WHO IS SPEAKING ,THE FATHER OR THE SON???)
The labour of Egypt, and the merchandise of Ethiopia, and of Sabaim, men of stature shall come over to thee,
( TO WHOM ??” TO THE SON OR TO THE FATHER)
and shall be thins: they shall walk after thee,
(AFTER WHO??? AFTER THE SON OR AFTER THE FATHER)
they shall go bound with manacles: and they shall worship thee,
( WORSHIP WHO THE SON OR THE FATHER)
and shall make supplication to thee:
(TO WHOM TO THE SON OR TO THE FATHER)
only in thee is God,
(IN WHOM IS GOD??? IN THE SON OR IN THE FATHER)
and there is no God besides thee.( BESISDES WHO ,THE SON OR THE FATHER???
SO TO DECIDE WHO IS SPEAKING TO WHOM!!!
SO YOU WILL KNOW WHO IS THIS UNIQUE GOD AND THERE'S NO OTHER BESIDES HIM!!! IN BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH !!!
15 Verily thou art a hidden God, ( WHO IS A HIDDEN GOD,THE SON OR THE FATHER)
the God of Israel the saviour.( WHO IS CALLING WHO :
THE GOD OF ISRAEL THE SAVIOUR??? BUT AGAIN FIRST DECIDE WHO IS SPEAKING TO WHO!!!)
25 Therefore shall he say:( WHO THE FATHER OR THE SON???)
In the Lord (IN WHICH LORD??? THE FATHER OR THE SON???)
are my justices and empire: they shall come to him,
( TO WHOM TO THE FATHER OR TO THE SON???)
and all that resist him shall be confounded.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
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