JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

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  • #315164
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 08 2012,12:11)


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    Godhead means what is in God's head

    Kerwin,

    Look up in the dictionary so you have some mature knowledge REGARDING THE WORD:

    GODHEAD

    WHEN IT IS A REFERENCE TO GOD.

    GOD IS A SPIRIT

    A SPIRIT HAS NO HEAD!!!

    NOT EVEN A BODY!!!

    JESUS CONFIRMED THIS!!!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #315166
    carmel
    Participant

    Lightenup,Oct. wrote:

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    Take care!

    Lightenup,

    HE IS LOOKING TO FIND A WAY TO TWIST AS MUCH HE COULD IN ORDER TO SUIT HIS MENTALITY.

    TAKE CARE AS WELL!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #315167
    kerwin
    Participant

    Charles,

    I looked and saw how Triniraianism has effected our language. As a whole the Jews have a better grasp of the of the term as it originated with them. I have heard it is not actually in the Ancient Greek but is instead used to translate words meaning “divinity”, divine nature, and deity in some older translations. Those sound close enough to the Jewish meaning that they well be valid translations.

    Look up personalization to discover how a spirit can have a head.

    #315179
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2012,12:28)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 08 2012,12:06)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2012,00:40)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2012,05:16)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 05 2012,20:17)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2012,10:06)

    mikeboll64,Oct. wrote:

    since he WAS existing in the form of his God,


    where can you read that paul said he was existing in the form of HIS God??

    what did paul said in phil 2.6
    1. form of HIS God
    or
    2. form of God?

    those two sentences are not the same mike.

    do not put your own words in the bible

    i will give you a chance mike. although it is very obvious that you are adding words in phil 2.6

    where can you read that paul said in phil 2.6 that Christ was existing in the form of HIS God


    Surely you must be kidding, right?   ???

    jammin, are you unaware that our God is also the God of Jesus?  Do you need me to point you to those scriptures?

    Also, why not address the actual point I made about Jesus not being “the unchanged one”?


    Hi Jammin,

    How does (Mike) adding “his” into the text change the meaning?         <– please explain
    Yes, I know Mike, he will likely offer only a derogatory 'snap comment' instead of an explanation.  :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    “Snap comment” ~ Ed J    (I may be the originator of this, Ha Ha, not likely though)


    dont you understand english??

    form of HIS GOD is not the same as FORM OF GOD

    can you say FORM OF HIS HUMAN? LOL

    paul is talking about nature in phil 2.6 and not a particular person


    Hi Jammin,

    So your not going to tell us what the difference is?
    Did think so, because there isn't any difference.  :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    form of HIS GOD means you are referring to a particular person.

    form of GOD means you are referring to the nature.

    do you understand that???

    there is no HIS in phil 2.6
    paul did not say that even in greek.

    mike is obviously a false teacher.
    he is adding words in the bible.

    now edj, if you still dont understand that, you go back to school

    #315180
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2012,14:30)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 08 2012,19:09)
    t

    may GOD open your heart and eyes


    Jamin

    If I am blind in my heart to God scriptures and can not see and understand Gods word ;

    then let God be my witness and yours, let him show who his really blind in his heart and mind.


    listen to this song t

    your grace is enough by don moen.
    it is a nice song
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWr4GNeK6XU

    #315185
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 08 2012,21:24)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2012,12:28)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 08 2012,12:06)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2012,00:40)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2012,05:16)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 05 2012,20:17)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2012,10:06)

    mikeboll64,Oct. wrote:

    since he WAS existing in the form of his God,


    where can you read that paul said he was existing in the form of HIS God??

    what did paul said in phil 2.6
    1. form of HIS God
    or
    2. form of God?

    those two sentences are not the same mike.

    do not put your own words in the bible

    i will give you a chance mike. although it is very obvious that you are adding words in phil 2.6

    where can you read that paul said in phil 2.6 that Christ was existing in the form of HIS God


    Surely you must be kidding, right?   ???

    jammin, are you unaware that our God is also the God of Jesus?  Do you need me to point you to those scriptures?

    Also, why not address the actual point I made about Jesus not being “the unchanged one”?


    Hi Jammin,

    How does (Mike) adding “his” into the text change the meaning?         <– please explain
    Yes, I know Mike, he will likely offer only a derogatory 'snap comment' instead of an explanation.  :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    “Snap comment” ~ Ed J    (I may be the originator of this, Ha Ha, not likely though)


    dont you understand english??

    form of HIS GOD is not the same as FORM OF GOD

    can you say FORM OF HIS HUMAN? LOL

    paul is talking about nature in phil 2.6 and not a particular person


    Hi Jammin,

    So your not going to tell us what the difference is?
    Did think so, because there isn't any difference.  :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    form of HIS GOD means you are referring to a particular person.

    form of GOD means you are referring to the nature.

    do you understand that???

    there is no HIS in phil 2.6
    paul did not say that even in greek.

    mike is obviously a false teacher.
    he is adding words in the bible.

    now edj, if you still dont understand that, you go back to school


    Hi Jammin,

    Rather than God being an individual, are you suggesting
    that “God” is (according to you) a species instead?              <– please answer

    species: A group subordinate to a genus and containing individuals
                       agreeing in some common attributes and called by a common name.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315192
    terraricca
    Participant

    carmel

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    DO YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD RESPECTED OUR LOGICAL REASONING IN ORDER TO REDEEM US???

    GOD INVITE US TO HIS LOGICAL ORDER TO REDEEM US,

    UNDERSTAND ONE THING CARMEL ;THAT THE LOGIC OF UNDERSTANDING IS ONLY RELATION TO OUR KNOWLEDGE,AND SO WHAT SEEMS RIGHT TO ONE MAY NOT BE SEEN TO THE OTHER RIGHT BECAUSE THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE OTHER, BUT GOD HAS THE SUPREM KNOWLEDGE THAT TO US IS MOST OF THE TIME DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND ,BECAUSE OF OUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE,SEE,SATAN BROUGHT IN A NEW KNOWLEDGE WEN HE CONVINCE ADAM TO EAT WHAT WAS NOT GOOD TO DO ,AND SO CREATED MEN VIEW AND LOGIC UNDERSTANDING ,WHAT HAS BEEN NOW SEEN FOR SOME 6000 YEARS THE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THAT LOGIC HIS WHAT ??? MEN IS DESTROYING HIS ONLY HOME THE EARTH ,WHY WOULD YOU THINK GOD SAYS DO NOT PUT YOUR TRUST IN MEN ???

    #315193
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 08 2012,19:11)
    carmel,

    Godhead means what is in God's head.

    You can certainly use that to evade explaining why the idea of the Trinity is so irrational.  

    Of course where does that leave Paul and his reason?

    Since your teaching is irrational because parts of it are in the head of God why bother reasoning?

    In fact why come up with a teaching that is not explicitly written in Scripture as doing so involves reason.

    Your teaching is not explicitly written in Scripture but has evolved via a semblance of reason over time.

    For example of a similar statement and explanation, I declare that the teaching you believe in is a lie.  I do not need to explain why that is as that explanation is in the head of Jehovah.


    KERWIN

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    Godhead means what is in God's head.

    ARE YOU IN A BOUCHERY CLASS NOW ???

    #315194
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 09 2012,04:26)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2012,14:30)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 08 2012,19:09)
    t

    may GOD open your heart and eyes


    Jamin

    If I am blind in my heart to God scriptures and can not see and understand Gods word ;

    then let God be my witness and yours, let him show who his really blind in his heart and mind.


    listen to this song t

    your grace is enough by don moen.
    it is a nice song
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWr4GNeK6XU


    Jamin

    I do not listen to based emotion words and music exept love songs I know that those are related to the flesh and the emotions of the heart toward your loved ones,

    but when it comes to Gods scriptures and truth ,only pure heart and mind can be there for the true understanding ,our emotion there are only to reinforce the will to increase the true love for our creator and his son Jesus Christ.so that our love for God and his son may be complete in our soul.

    #315213
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2012,23:51)

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 08 2012,19:11)
    carmel,

    Godhead means what is in God's head.

    You can certainly use that to evade explaining why the idea of the Trinity is so irrational.  

    Of course where does that leave Paul and his reason?

    Since your teaching is irrational because parts of it are in the head of God why bother reasoning?

    In fact why come up with a teaching that is not explicitly written in Scripture as doing so involves reason.

    Your teaching is not explicitly written in Scripture but has evolved via a semblance of reason over time.

    For example of a similar statement and explanation, I declare that the teaching you believe in is a lie.  I do not need to explain why that is as that explanation is in the head of Jehovah.


    KERWIN

    Quote
    Godhead means what is in God's head.

    ARE YOU IN A BOUCHERY CLASS NOW ???


    T,

    I am not in butchers class but a compound word generally is defined by its parts.

    #315219
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 09 2012,14:50)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2012,23:51)

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 08 2012,19:11)
    carmel,

    Godhead means what is in God's head.

    You can certainly use that to evade explaining why the idea of the Trinity is so irrational.  

    Of course where does that leave Paul and his reason?

    Since your teaching is irrational because parts of it are in the head of God why bother reasoning?

    In fact why come up with a teaching that is not explicitly written in Scripture as doing so involves reason.

    Your teaching is not explicitly written in Scripture but has evolved via a semblance of reason over time.

    For example of a similar statement and explanation, I declare that the teaching you believe in is a lie.  I do not need to explain why that is as that explanation is in the head of Jehovah.


    KERWIN

    Quote
    Godhead means what is in God's head.

    ARE YOU IN A BOUCHERY CLASS NOW ???


    T,

    I am not in butchers class but a compound word generally is defined by its parts.


    K

    godhead does not mean what is in Gods head ,this mean he his the top God

    Ac 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
    Ro 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
    Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.KJV

    #315261
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 09 2012,02:41)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 08 2012,21:24)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2012,12:28)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 08 2012,12:06)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2012,00:40)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2012,05:16)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 05 2012,20:17)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2012,10:06)

    mikeboll64,Oct. wrote:

    since he WAS existing in the form of his God,


    where can you read that paul said he was existing in the form of HIS God??

    what did paul said in phil 2.6
    1. form of HIS God
    or
    2. form of God?

    those two sentences are not the same mike.

    do not put your own words in the bible

    i will give you a chance mike. although it is very obvious that you are adding words in phil 2.6

    where can you read that paul said in phil 2.6 that Christ was existing in the form of HIS God


    Surely you must be kidding, right?   ???

    jammin, are you unaware that our God is also the God of Jesus?  Do you need me to point you to those scriptures?

    Also, why not address the actual point I made about Jesus not being “the unchanged one”?


    Hi Jammin,

    How does (Mike) adding “his” into the text change the meaning?         <– please explain
    Yes, I know Mike, he will likely offer only a derogatory 'snap comment' instead of an explanation.  :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    “Snap comment” ~ Ed J    (I may be the originator of this, Ha Ha, not likely though)


    dont you understand english??

    form of HIS GOD is not the same as FORM OF GOD

    can you say FORM OF HIS HUMAN? LOL

    paul is talking about nature in phil 2.6 and not a particular person


    Hi Jammin,

    So your not going to tell us what the difference is?
    Did think so, because there isn't any difference.  :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    form of HIS GOD means you are referring to a particular person.

    form of GOD means you are referring to the nature.

    do you understand that???

    there is no HIS in phil 2.6
    paul did not say that even in greek.

    mike is obviously a false teacher.
    he is adding words in the bible.

    now edj, if you still dont understand that, you go back to school


    Hi Jammin,

    Rather than God being an individual, are you suggesting
    that “God” is (according to you) a species instead?              <– please answer

    species: A group subordinate to a genus and containing individuals
                       agreeing in some common attributes and called by a common name.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    i cant read species in the bible.

    that is just an opinion from men

    i can read nature..Christ's nature is God. phil 2.6

    #315262
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,04:58)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 09 2012,04:26)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2012,14:30)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 08 2012,19:09)
    t

    may GOD open your heart and eyes


    Jamin

    If I am blind in my heart to God scriptures and can not see and understand Gods word ;

    then let God be my witness and yours, let him show who his really blind in his heart and mind.


    listen to this song t

    your grace is enough by don moen.
    it is a nice song
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWr4GNeK6XU


    Jamin

    I do not listen to based emotion words and music exept love songs I know that those are related to the flesh and the emotions of the heart toward your loved ones,

    but when it comes to Gods scriptures and truth ,only pure heart and mind can be there for the true understanding ,our emotion there are only to reinforce the will to increase the true love for our creator and his son Jesus Christ.so that our love for God and his son may be complete in our soul.


    May God open your eyes

    #315265
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 08 2012,05:26)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2012,14:30)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 08 2012,19:09)
    t

    may GOD open your heart and eyes


    Jamin

    If I am blind in my heart to God scriptures and can not see and understand Gods word ;

    then let God be my witness and yours, let him show who his really blind in his heart and mind.


    listen to this song t

    your grace is enough by don moen.
    it is a nice song
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWr4GNeK6XU


    I really liked the song. I saw Don Moen years ago in concert and really like him since then. Thanks for putting it up!!

    God bless, jammin!

    #315266
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 09 2012,13:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,04:58)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 09 2012,04:26)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2012,14:30)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 08 2012,19:09)
    t

    may GOD open your heart and eyes


    Jamin

    If I am blind in my heart to God scriptures and can not see and understand Gods word ;

    then let God be my witness and yours, let him show who his really blind in his heart and mind.


    listen to this song t

    your grace is enough by don moen.
    it is a nice song
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWr4GNeK6XU


    Jamin

    I do not listen to based emotion words and music exept love songs I know that those are related to the flesh and the emotions of the heart toward your loved ones,

    but when it comes to Gods scriptures and truth ,only pure heart and mind can be there for the true understanding ,our emotion there are only to reinforce the will to increase the true love for our creator and his son Jesus Christ.so that our love for God and his son may be complete in our soul.


    May God open your eyes


    Jammin,

    You owe me a lot of answers

    By not answering my questions, your eyes shall remained closed.

    #315269
    terraricca
    Participant

    Jamin his a religious fanatic ,he believe men does not do any effort to understand truth love those who congratulate him, and so is blind to anything that make sense,He his also stuck on words and repetition of small phrases

    #315283
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 09 2012,13:33)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 09 2012,02:41)

    Quote (jammin @ Oct. 08 2012,21:24)

    form of HIS GOD means you are referring to a particular person.

    form of GOD means you are referring to the nature.

    do you understand that???

    there is no HIS in phil 2.6
    paul did not say that even in greek.

    mike is obviously a false teacher.
    he is adding words in the bible.

    now edj, if you still dont understand that, you go back to school


    Hi Jammin,

    Rather than God being an individual, are you suggesting
    that “God” is (according to you) a species instead?
                 <– please answer

    species: A group subordinate to a genus and containing individuals
                       agreeing in some common  attributes  and called by a common name.

    God bless
    Ed J


    i cant read species in the bible.

    that is just an opinion from men

    i can read nature..Christ's nature is God. phil 2.6


    Hi Jammin, is your answer “No” then?

    Nature: The inherent character or basic constitution of a person or thing
    Attributes: A quality or feature regarded as a characteristic or inherent part of someone or something.

    Attributes and nature mean the same.
    Nature IS NOT WRITTEN in Philp.2:6 either.
    Now will you kindly please answer my question?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #315284
    Ed J
    Participant

    “i cant read species in the bible” …is not an answer.

    #315285
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,03:06)

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 09 2012,14:50)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2012,23:51)

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 08 2012,19:11)
    carmel,

    Godhead means what is in God's head.

    You can certainly use that to evade explaining why the idea of the Trinity is so irrational.  

    Of course where does that leave Paul and his reason?

    Since your teaching is irrational because parts of it are in the head of God why bother reasoning?

    In fact why come up with a teaching that is not explicitly written in Scripture as doing so involves reason.

    Your teaching is not explicitly written in Scripture but has evolved via a semblance of reason over time.

    For example of a similar statement and explanation, I declare that the teaching you believe in is a lie.  I do not need to explain why that is as that explanation is in the head of Jehovah.


    KERWIN

    Quote
    Godhead means what is in God's head.

    ARE YOU IN A BOUCHERY CLASS NOW ???


    T,

    I am not in butchers class but a compound word generally is defined by its parts.


    K

    godhead does not mean what is in Gods head ,this mean he his the top God

    Ac 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
    Ro 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
    Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.KJV


    T,

    Try those same Scriptures in the newer versions to discover God's head is a translation of.

    Acts 17:29
    New American Standard Bible (NASB)

    29 Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man.

    Romans 1:20
    New American Standard Bible (NASB)

    20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

    Colossians 2:9
    New American Standard Bible (NASB)

    9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,

    I seems it was believed these things are in God's head.

    #315286
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote
    I looked and saw how Triniraianism has effected our language.  

    Kerwin,

    FIRST AND FORMOST:

    GOD IS THE ONLY GENUINE AND UNIQUE PURE SPIRIT.

    SO ONLY HE IS ACTUALLY :

    A SPIRIT BEING WITHOUT A BODY.

    SO ONLY HE IS A DEVINE BEING.

    WHEREVER YOU LOOKED IN IT NEVER SAID THAT GOD HAS A BODY!!!

    ALL THE SPIRITUAL CREATURES HAVE A KIND OF SPIRITUAL BODY IN ORDER TO SEE EACH OTHER.
    THEREFORE THEY ARE IN DIFFERENT SPIRITUAL  REALMS ACCORDINGLY,FROM THE ONE CLOSEST TO THE ONE FARTHEST TO GOD WHICH IS HELL.

    JOHN :4:24  God is a spirit; and they that adore him, must adore him in spirit and in truth.

    Read above, Jesus confirmd that God is a spirit.

    Who adores God must adores Him in Spirit,and in truth

    Now can you adore God in spirit with a HEAD,OR WITH A BODY???

    WOULDN'T YOU BE ADORING GOD WITH A BODY THEN,

    RATHER IN SPIRIT.

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

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