JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

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    942767
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    Marty,

    Is it scriptural that John the Baptist called Jesus “the Lamb of God” – even though Jesus wasn't literally a lamb?  YES or NO?


    Yes.


    Hi Marty,

    And is it scriptural that Jesus is called by the name “the Word of God” – even though he is not literally a spoke word from God?   YES or NO?


    Yes.


    And is it scriptural that Jesus is called the “monogenes” Son of God?  YES or NO?


    Yes.


    And is it scriptural that the Word that was made flesh dwelled on earth with the glory of the “monogenes” Son of God?  YES or NO?


    Hi Mike:

    Yes


    And is it scriptural that in the Word was life?  (John 1:4)


    Jhn 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #306355
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    The problem is not with what the articles are saying, Frank, because I don't really think any of us read them anymore. We started off reading them, but then when we questioned you about some of the unscriptural statements in them, you wouldn't answer us.

    I think most of us just figured that if the articles were going to contain unscriptural stuff, and you weren't going to stand and defend them, then why bother reading them in the first place?

    If there is anyone here who wants to read your huge articles, they can go to your website and read them, right? Why not just do what Ed suggested, and post a link (like you many times do), and let us decide if we want to click that link and read the article or not.

    I'm asking on behalf of many of us who find the threads hard to follow when we have to scroll through million word cut and pastes.

    Please……………….

    #306356
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (942767 @ July 18 2012,20:22)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 19 2012,12:52)

    Quote (942767 @ July 18 2012,19:20)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 19 2012,12:15)

    Quote (942767 @ July 08 2012,18:27)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2012,05:23)

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2012,10:14)
    Marty,

    Is it scriptural that John the Baptist called Jesus “the Lamb of God” – even though Jesus wasn't literally a lamb?  YES or NO?


    Yes.


    Hi Marty,

    And is it scriptural that Jesus is called by the name “the Word of God” – even though he is not literally a spoke word from God?   YES or NO?


    Yes.


    And is it scriptural that Jesus is called the “monogenes” Son of God?  YES or NO?


    Yes.


    And is it scriptural that the Word that was made flesh dwelled on earth with the glory of the “monogenes” Son of God?  YES or NO?


    Hi Mike:

    Yes


    And is it scriptural that in the Word was life?  (John 1:4)


    Jhn 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.


    And is it scriptural that in Jesus was life? (1 John 5:11) YES or NO?

    #306358
    942767
    Participant

    Hi Frank:

    You stated that you did not worship the same God that I worshiped, and so, what God do you worship?  I worship the Father of my Lord Jesus, God's Only Begotten Son and His Christ.

    Do you believe that Jesus is “Only Begotten(Monogenes) Son and His Christ” and if you do believe, have you received the Holy Ghost.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #306368
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 19 2012,00:08)

    Quote (kerwin @ July 18 2012,17:47)

    Frank,

    Here are some words to consider from another site:

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    What is “flooding”?
    Flooding is the act of repeatedly making comments in a single area with the obvious intent of overwhelming a single webpage with your commentary. Flooding can also take the form of filling a single comment or small group of comments with a huge amount of text, again with the obvious intent of overwhelming the page in question and possibly with the intent of causing substantial page load difficulties or browser crashes.

    These acts are considered an abuse of the system and may lead to your account being suspended or banned without warning.

    Here is my source.


    Like I really care what another site says!  :D


    Frank,

    Your fruit sound like that of an arrogant man and not that which strives to remain at peace with your neighbor while speaking the truth out of love.  Seek to be wise, even in the midst of those who are not.

    #306371
    kerwin
    Participant

    Marty,

    The manuscripts differ on the words of Acts 20:28.

    Acts 20:28
    New International Version (NIV)

    28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God,[a] which he bought with his own blood.
    Footnotes:

       Acts 20:28 Many manuscripts of the Lord
       Acts 20:28 Or with the blood of his own Son.

    Those that believe are the children of God; so how are they the children of humanity?  How are they the children of God?

    You know God is not a created being and so does not procreate as one.

    #306374
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,10:37)

    Quote (carmel @ July 19 2012,15:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,07:29)

    Quote (carmel @ July 19 2012,14:10)

    Quote (jammin @ July 18 2012,14:02)
    your christ is not a real GOD boy!

    you are an anti Christ just like the others.

    repent and be baptitzed!

    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!


    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!

    Jammin,

    This also confirms it:

    DRBV. Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    WHO IS ABOVE JESUS THEN??? NO ONE BECAUSE HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF IN THE MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS CHRIST

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES


    Charles

    You can not even understand your own quoted scriptures,


    Quote
    You can not even understand your own quoted scriptures,

    Terraricca,

    It's no use telling me that unless you prove through your wisdom what that scripture means!!

    It is only a proof that you have no confidence in yourself!! or not even trust yourself.

    at least others would verify themselves.

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Charles

    Quote
    This also confirms it:

    DRBV. Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    WHO IS ABOVE JESUS THEN??? NO ONE BECAUSE HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF IN THE MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS CHRIST

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES

    in the first verse you quoted ; Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    PAUL SAYS THAT GOD HIS FATHER EXALTED HIM ( SO HE DID NOT EXALTED HIMSELF)

    IN THIS VERSE ;10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    IT SAYS THAT ALL KNEE SHOULD BOW IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH AND UNDER THE EARTH

    SO THIS LAST TREE WORDS MAKE WANDER IF THERE IS A PLACE UNDER THE PLANET EARTH ,AND IF IT IS SIMBOLIC OR ALEGORIC AND IN REALITY IT TALKS ABOUT THE DEAD BEING BELOW GROUND ,THEN ALSO ALLWOULD BE NOT INCLUDING JESUS FATHER THE GOD ALMIGHTY RIGHT ? YES

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER

    IN VERSE 11 PAUL SAYS THAT EVERY TONGUE ;;SHOULD;; (NOT HAVE TO)CONFESS THAT JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY (WHAT IS THAT GLORY ??? DO YOU KNOW???)OF GOD THE FATHER

    Quote

    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!


    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!

    Jammin,

    (Charles)
    This also confirms it:

    NOW THAT YOU HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING COULD YOU SHOW ME HOW THOSE VERSES CONFIRM :”” THAT THE SON HIS TRULY GOD JUST AS THE FATHER HIS TRULY GOD ???


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    PAUL SAYS THAT GOD HIS FATHER EXALTED HIM ( SO HE DID NOT EXALTED HIMSELF)

    Terraricca,

    WHEN  DO YOU AND OTHERS GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD IS A SPIRIT???

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD THROUGH HIS OWN GENUINE SPIRIT BECAME MAN???

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD BECAME ONE BEING BOTH IN FLESH AND SPIRIT AND WALKED ON EARTH AS GOD/MAN??? JESUS

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD DIED AS MAN  IN JESUS IN ORDER TO UNITE HIMSELF FOR ETERNITY IN THE GLORIFIED MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS SINCE ALL THE FATHER'S FULLNESS SHOULD DWELL WITHIN???

    AND AS A SPIRIT ONLY GOD COULDN'T ACHIEVE THESE GREAT UNFATHOMABLE MYTERIES???

    SO GOD HAD TO BE BOTH FLESH AND SPIRIT AND THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE ENTIRE CREATION IN

    LIGHT AND DARKNESS

    INVISIBLE AND VISIBLE

    POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE

    GOOD AND EVIL

    MAN AND WOMAN

    LIFE AND DEATH

    AND THE LIST IS ENDLESS EVEN IN OUR ENTIRE BODY

    BUT AT THE END ALL THESE TWOS BECOME ONE LIKE THE FATHER AND THE SON  WHO BECAME ONE THROUGH JESUS. THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE AND THEREFORE HE WOULD

    Colossians 1:18…………….that in all things he may hold the primacy:

    SINCE HE IS GOD!!!

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES

    #306388
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ July 20 2012,00:45)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,10:37)

    Quote (carmel @ July 19 2012,15:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,07:29)

    Quote (carmel @ July 19 2012,14:10)

    Quote (jammin @ July 18 2012,14:02)
    your christ is not a real GOD boy!

    you are an anti Christ just like the others.

    repent and be baptitzed!

    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!


    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!

    Jammin,

    This also confirms it:

    DRBV. Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    WHO IS ABOVE JESUS THEN??? NO ONE BECAUSE HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF IN THE MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS CHRIST

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES


    Charles

    You can not even understand your own quoted scriptures,


    Quote
    You can not even understand your own quoted scriptures,

    Terraricca,

    It's no use telling me that unless you prove through your wisdom what that scripture means!!

    It is only a proof that you have no confidence in yourself!! or not even trust yourself.

    at least others would verify themselves.

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Charles

    Quote
    This also confirms it:

    DRBV. Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    WHO IS ABOVE JESUS THEN??? NO ONE BECAUSE HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF IN THE MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS CHRIST

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES

    in the first verse you quoted ; Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    PAUL SAYS THAT GOD HIS FATHER EXALTED HIM ( SO HE DID NOT EXALTED HIMSELF)

    IN THIS VERSE ;10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    IT SAYS THAT ALL KNEE SHOULD BOW IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH AND UNDER THE EARTH

    SO THIS LAST TREE WORDS MAKE WANDER IF THERE IS A PLACE UNDER THE PLANET EARTH ,AND IF IT IS SIMBOLIC OR ALEGORIC AND IN REALITY IT TALKS ABOUT THE DEAD BEING BELOW GROUND ,THEN ALSO ALLWOULD BE NOT INCLUDING JESUS FATHER THE GOD ALMIGHTY RIGHT ? YES

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER

    IN VERSE 11 PAUL SAYS THAT EVERY TONGUE ;;SHOULD;; (NOT HAVE TO)CONFESS THAT JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY (WHAT IS THAT GLORY ??? DO YOU KNOW???)OF GOD THE FATHER

    Quote

    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!


    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!

    Jammin,

    (Charles)
    This also confirms it:

    NOW THAT YOU HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING COULD YOU SHOW ME HOW THOSE VERSES CONFIRM :”” THAT THE SON HIS TRULY GOD JUST AS THE FATHER HIS TRULY GOD ???


    Quote
    PAUL SAYS THAT GOD HIS FATHER EXALTED HIM ( SO HE DID NOT EXALTED HIMSELF)

    Terraricca,

    WHEN  DO YOU AND OTHERS GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD IS A SPIRIT???

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD THROUGH HIS OWN GENUINE SPIRIT BECAME MAN???

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD BECAME ONE BEING BOTH IN FLESH AND SPIRIT AND WALKED ON EARTH AS GOD/MAN??? JESUS

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD DIED AS MAN  IN JESUS IN ORDER TO UNITE HIMSELF FOR ETERNITY IN THE GLORIFIED MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS SINCE ALL THE FATHER'S FULLNESS SHOULD DWELL WITHIN???

    AND AS A SPIRIT ONLY GOD COULDN'T ACHIEVE THESE GREAT UNFATHOMABLE MYTERIES???

    SO GOD HAD TO BE BOTH FLESH AND SPIRIT AND THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE ENTIRE CREATION IN

    LIGHT AND DARKNESS

    INVISIBLE AND VISIBLE

    POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE

    GOOD AND EVIL

    MAN AND WOMAN

    LIFE AND DEATH

    AND THE LIST IS ENDLESS EVEN IN OUR ENTIRE BODY

    BUT AT THE END ALL THESE TWOS BECOME ONE LIKE THE FATHER AND THE SON  WHO BECAME ONE THROUGH JESUS. THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE AND THEREFORE HE WOULD

    Colossians 1:18…………….that in all things he may hold the primacy:

    SINCE HE IS GOD!!!

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES


    Charles

    When are going to accept that God his a powerful being and in a spirit form ,

    And that he created first his son through whom he creat
    ed all other things ,

    Until you understand this basic knowledge you will not have truth,just men illusions

    #306393
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ July 19 2012,14:42)
    Marty,

    The manuscripts differ on the words of Acts 20:28.

    Acts 20:28
    New International Version (NIV)

    28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God,[a] which he bought with his own blood.
    Footnotes:

       Acts 20:28 Many manuscripts of the Lord
       Acts 20:28 Or with the blood of his own Son.

    Those that believe are the children of God; so how are they the children of humanity?  How are they the children of God?

    You know God is not a created being and so does not procreate as one.


    Hi Kerwin:

    We are children of God by the Spirit of Adoption having come to God with a repentant heart believing what He has done for us in the person of His Only Begotten Son.  We have been born again from the dead.

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    Jhn 1:12   But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:  
    Jhn 1:13   Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

    Jesus is the “Monogenes” Son of the Living God, than he is unique in the way that “He is a Son of the Living God”.

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    Gal 4:4   But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,  
    Gal 4:5   To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.

    Here he was a Son of God under the Law of Moses born as an infant in the state of innocence just as any other child under the Law of Moses.

    He was the first to be born again from the dead after he had fulfiled the Law of Moses having obeyed God without sin even unto death on the cross.

    You say:

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    Marty,

    The manuscripts differ on the words of Acts 20:28.

    Acts 20:28
    New International Version (NIV)

    28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God,[a] which he bought with his own blood.
    Footnotes:

       Acts 20:28 Many manuscripts of the Lord
       Acts 20:28 Or with the blood of his own Son.

    Any way that you want to read this, with the His own blood, with the blood of the Lord, or the blood of His Son, it is still His own blood.  Just any blood of any ordinary man will never wash away our sins.

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    Jhn 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #306394
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 20 2012,01:42)

    Quote (carmel @ July 20 2012,00:45)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,10:37)

    Quote (carmel @ July 19 2012,15:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,07:29)

    Quote (carmel @ July 19 2012,14:10)

    Quote (jammin @ July 18 2012,14:02)
    your christ is not a real GOD boy!

    you are an anti Christ just like the others.

    repent and be baptitzed!

    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!


    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!

    Jammin,

    This also confirms it:

    DRBV. Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    WHO IS ABOVE JESUS THEN??? NO ONE BECAUSE HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF IN THE MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS CHRIST

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES


    Charles

    You can not even understand your own quoted scriptures,


    Quote
    You can not even understand your own quoted scriptures,

    Terraricca,

    It's no use telling me that unless you prove through your wisdom what that scripture means!!

    It is only a proof that you have no confidence in yourself!! or not even trust yourself.

    at least others would verify themselves.

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Charles

    Quote
    This also confirms it:

    DRBV. Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    WHO IS ABOVE JESUS THEN??? NO ONE BECAUSE HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF IN THE MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS CHRIST

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES

    in the first verse you quoted ; Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    PAUL SAYS THAT GOD HIS FATHER EXALTED HIM ( SO HE DID NOT EXALTED HIMSELF)

    IN THIS VERSE ;10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    IT SAYS THAT ALL KNEE SHOULD BOW IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH AND UNDER THE EARTH

    SO THIS LAST TREE WORDS MAKE WANDER IF THERE IS A PLACE UNDER THE PLANET EARTH ,AND IF IT IS SIMBOLIC OR ALEGORIC AND IN REALITY IT TALKS ABOUT THE DEAD BEING BELOW GROUND ,THEN ALSO ALLWOULD BE NOT INCLUDING JESUS FATHER THE GOD ALMIGHTY RIGHT ? YES

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER

    IN VERSE 11 PAUL SAYS THAT EVERY TONGUE ;;SHOULD;; (NOT HAVE TO)CONFESS THAT JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY (WHAT IS THAT GLORY ??? DO YOU KNOW???)OF GOD THE FATHER

    Quote

    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!


    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!

    Jammin,

    (Charles)
    This also confirms it:

    NOW THAT YOU HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING COULD YOU SHOW ME HOW THOSE VERSES CONFIRM :”” THAT THE SON HIS TRULY GOD JUST AS THE FATHER HIS TRULY GOD ???


    Quote
    PAUL SAYS THAT GOD HIS FATHER EXALTED HIM ( SO HE DID NOT EXALTED HIMSELF)

    Terraricca,

    WHEN  DO YOU AND OTHERS GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD IS A SPIRIT???

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD THROUGH HIS OWN GENUINE SPIRIT BECAME MAN???

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD BECAME ONE BEING BOTH IN FLESH AND SPIRIT AND WALKED ON EARTH AS GOD/MAN??? JESUS

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD DIED AS MAN  IN JESUS IN ORDER TO UNITE HIMSELF FOR ETERNITY IN THE GLORIFIED MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS SINCE ALL THE FATHER'S FULLNESS SHOULD DWELL WITHIN???

    AND AS A SPIRIT ONLY GOD COULDN'T ACHIEVE THESE GREAT UNFATHOMABLE MYTERIES???

    SO GOD HAD TO BE BOTH FLESH AND SPIRIT AND THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE ENTIRE CREATION IN

    LIGHT AND DARKNESS

    INVISIBLE AND VISIBLE

    POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE

    GOOD AND EVIL

    MAN AND WOMAN

    LIFE AND DEATH

    AND THE LIST IS ENDLESS EVEN IN OUR ENTIRE BODY

    BUT AT THE END ALL THESE TWOS BECOME ONE LIKE THE FATHER AND THE SON  WHO BECAME ONE THROUGH JESUS. THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE AND THEREFORE HE WOULD

    Colossians 1:18…………….that in all things he may hold the primacy:

    SINCE HE IS GOD!!!

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES


    Charles

    When are going to accept that God his a powerful being and in a spirit form ,

    And that he created first his son through whom he created all other things ,

    Until you understand this basic knowledge you will not have truth,just men illusions


    Quote
    And that he created first his son through whom he created all other things ,

    Terraricca,

    God never created His Son.

    God crated first the spiritual beings through His Son while still within the Father.

    Then after the rebel,He emanated His Son to recreate all our visible creation through Him as the FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE NO MATTER WHAT?

    Did you ever realized that through the above statement Jesus' Spirit was also the first ever evil creature in Lucifer??

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #306395
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ July 20 2012,11:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 20 2012,01:42)

    Quote (carmel @ July 20 2012,00:45)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,10:37)

    Quote (carmel @ July 19 2012,15:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,07:29)

    Quote (carmel @ July 19 2012,14:10)

    Quote (jammin @ July 18 2012,14:02)
    your christ is not a real GOD boy!

    you are an anti Christ just like the others.

    repent and be baptitzed!

    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!


    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!

    Jammin,

    This also confirms it:

    DRBV. Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    WHO IS ABOVE JESUS THEN??? NO ONE BECAUSE HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF IN THE MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS CHRIST

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES


    Charles

    You can not even understand your own quoted scriptures,


    Quote
    You can not even understand your own quoted scriptures,

    Terraricca,

    It's no use telling me that unless you prove through your wisdom what that scripture means!!

    It is only a proof that you have no confidence in yourself!! or not even trust yourself.

    at least others would verify themselves.

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Charles

    Quote
    This also confirms it:

    DRBV. Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    WHO IS ABOVE JESUS THEN??? NO ONE BECAUSE HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF IN THE MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS CHRIST

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES

    in the first verse you quoted ; Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    PAUL SAYS THAT GOD HIS FATHER EXALTED HIM ( SO HE DID NOT EXALTED HIMSELF)

    IN THIS VERSE ;10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    IT SAYS THAT ALL KNEE SHOULD BOW IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH AND UNDER THE EARTH

    SO THIS LAST TREE WORDS MAKE WANDER IF THERE IS A PLACE UNDER THE PLANET EARTH ,AND IF IT IS SIMBOLIC OR ALEGORIC AND IN REALITY IT TALKS ABOUT THE DEAD BEING BELOW GROUND ,THEN ALSO ALLWOULD BE NOT INCLUDING JESUS FATHER THE GOD ALMIGHTY RIGHT ? YES

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER

    IN VERSE 11 PAUL SAYS THAT EVERY TONGUE ;;SHOULD;; (NOT HAVE TO)CONFESS THAT JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY (WHAT IS THAT GLORY ??? DO YOU KNOW???)OF GOD THE FATHER

    Quote

    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!


    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!

    Jammin,

    (Charles)
    This also confirms it:

    NOW THAT YOU HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING COULD YOU SHOW ME HOW THOSE VERSES CONFIRM :”” THAT THE SON HIS TRULY GOD JUST AS THE FATHER HIS TRULY GOD ???


    Quote
    PAUL SAYS THAT GOD HIS FATHER EXALTED HIM ( SO HE DID NOT EXALTED HIMSELF)

    Terraricca,

    WHEN  DO YOU AND OTHERS GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD IS A SPIRIT???

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD THROUGH HIS OWN GENUINE SPIRIT BECAME MAN???

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD BECAME ONE BEING BOTH IN FLESH AND SPIRIT AND WALKED ON EARTH AS GOD/MAN??? JESUS

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD DIED AS MAN  IN JESUS IN ORDER TO UNITE HIMSELF FOR ETERNITY IN THE GLORIFIED MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS SINCE ALL THE FATHER'S FULLNESS SHOULD DWELL WITHIN???

    AND AS A SPIRIT ONLY GOD COULDN'T ACHIEVE THESE GREAT UNFATHOMABLE MYTERIES???

    SO GOD HAD TO BE BOTH FLESH AND SPIRIT AND THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE ENTIRE CREATION IN

    LIGHT AND DARKNESS

    INVISIBLE AND VISIBLE

    POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE

    GOOD AND EVIL

    MAN AND WOMAN

    LIFE AND DEATH

    AND THE LIST IS ENDLESS EVEN IN OUR ENTIRE BODY

    BUT AT THE END ALL THESE TWOS BECOME ONE LIKE THE FATHER AND THE SON  WHO BECAME ONE THROUGH JESUS. THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CRE
    ATURE AND THEREFORE HE WOULD

    Colossians 1:18…………….that in all things he may hold the primacy:

    SINCE HE IS GOD!!!

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES


    Charles

    When are going to accept that God his a powerful being and in a spirit form ,

    And that he created first his son through whom he created all other things ,

    Until you understand this basic knowledge you will not have truth,just men illusions


    Quote
    And that he created first his son through whom he created all other things ,

    Terraricca,

    God never created His Son.

    God crated first the spiritual beings through His Son while still within the Father.

    Then after the rebel,He emanated His Son to recreate all our visible creation through Him as the FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE NO MATTER WHAT?

    Did you ever realized that through the above statement Jesus' Spirit was also the first ever evil creature in Lucifer??

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Charles

    This is not in scriptures ,and so could not be trusted ,

    #306397
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ July 20 2012,04:40)
    Terraricca,

    God never created His Son.

    God crated first the spiritual beings through His Son while still within the Father.

    peace and love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles.

    I believe Jesus was part of God (as well) in his preexistent state.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #306400
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ July 19 2012,13:31)
    Hi Frank:

    You stated that you did not worship the same God that I worshiped, and so, what God do you worship?  I worship the Father of my Lord Jesus, God's Only Begotten Son and His Christ.

    Do you believe that Jesus is “Only Begotten(Monogenes) Son and His Christ” and if you do believe, have you received the Holy Ghost.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty,

    Listen up! I AM NOT A “GOD” WORSHIPER!

    “BAAL” Gad
    “The LORD” God

    #306402
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ July 19 2012,14:23)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 19 2012,00:08)

    Quote (kerwin @ July 18 2012,17:47)

    Frank,

    Here are some words to consider from another site:

    Quote
    What is “flooding”?
    Flooding is the act of repeatedly making comments in a single area with the obvious intent of overwhelming a single webpage with your commentary. Flooding can also take the form of filling a single comment or small group of comments with a huge amount of text, again with the obvious intent of overwhelming the page in question and possibly with the intent of causing substantial page load difficulties or browser crashes.

    These acts are considered an abuse of the system and may lead to your account being suspended or banned without warning.

    Here is my source.


    Like I really care what another site says!  :D


    Frank,

    Your fruit sound like that of an arrogant man and not that which strives to remain at peace with your neighbor while speaking the truth out of love.  Seek to be wise, even in the midst of those who are not.


    kerwin,

    You are a rotten apple full of worms! :D

    #306403
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 20 2012,07:13)

    Quote (kerwin @ July 19 2012,14:23)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 19 2012,00:08)

    Quote (kerwin @ July 18 2012,17:47)

    Frank,

    Here are some words to consider from another site:

    Quote
    What is “flooding”?
    Flooding is the act of repeatedly making comments in a single area with the obvious intent of overwhelming a single webpage with your commentary. Flooding can also take the form of filling a single comment or small group of comments with a huge amount of text, again with the obvious intent of overwhelming the page in question and possibly with the intent of causing substantial page load difficulties or browser crashes.

    These acts are considered an abuse of the system and may lead to your account being suspended or banned without warning.

    Here is my source.


    Like I really care what another site says!  :D


    Frank,

    Your fruit sound like that of an arrogant man and not that which strives to remain at peace with your neighbor while speaking the truth out of love.  Seek to be wise, even in the midst of those who are not.


    kerwin,

    You are a rotten apple full of worms!  :D


    kerwin,

    You want to insult me? Well, I will play your foolishness and join right in with your peoples fight forum of “I'm right and you are wrong!” :D

    #306404
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Ed J @ July 19 2012,13:44)

    Quote (carmel @ July 20 2012,04:40)
    Terraricca,

    God never created His Son.

    God crated first the spiritual beings through His Son while still within the Father.

    peace and love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles.

    I believe Jesus was part of God (as well) in his preexistent state.


    Ed,

    You believe something that WAS God Almighty became something that WASN'T God Almighty? How can “God”, who never changes, become “not-God”?

    #306405
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    You'd have to read the book.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #306407
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 20 2012,14:35)
    Hi Mike,

    You'd have to read the book.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ

    THEIR IS NO BOOK THAT SAYS that IN THE SCRIPTURES OF GOD

    #306426
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 20 2012,02:18)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 20 2012,07:13)

    Quote (kerwin @ July 19 2012,14:23)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 19 2012,00:08)

    Quote (kerwin @ July 18 2012,17:47)

    Frank,

    Here are some words to consider from another site:

    Quote
    What is “flooding”?
    Flooding is the act of repeatedly making comments in a single area with the obvious intent of overwhelming a single webpage with your commentary. Flooding can also take the form of filling a single comment or small group of comments with a huge amount of text, again with the obvious intent of overwhelming the page in question and possibly with the intent of causing substantial page load difficulties or browser crashes.

    These acts are considered an abuse of the system and may lead to your account being suspended or banned without warning.

    Here is my source.


    Like I really care what another site says!  :D


    Frank,

    Your fruit sound like that of an arrogant man and not that which strives to remain at peace with your neighbor while speaking the truth out of love.  Seek to be wise, even in the midst of those who are not.


    kerwin,

    You are a rotten apple full of worms!  :D


    kerwin,

    You want to insult me? Well, I will play your foolishness and join right in with your peoples fight forum of “I'm right and you are wrong!” :D


    Frank;

    It is called a rebuke and the wise give heed to a just rebuke.

    As you state, I am an apple full of worms as I have not yet claimed the goal for which I strive; a goal I choose credit you with also striving for.

    #306429
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 20 2012,05:09)

    Quote (carmel @ July 20 2012,11:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 20 2012,01:42)

    Quote (carmel @ July 20 2012,00:45)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,10:37)

    Quote (carmel @ July 19 2012,15:31)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,07:29)

    Quote (carmel @ July 19 2012,14:10)

    Quote (jammin @ July 18 2012,14:02)
    your christ is not a real GOD boy!

    you are an anti Christ just like the others.

    repent and be baptitzed!

    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!


    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!

    Jammin,

    This also confirms it:

    DRBV. Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    WHO IS ABOVE JESUS THEN??? NO ONE BECAUSE HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF IN THE MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS CHRIST

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES


    Charles

    You can not even understand your own quoted scriptures,


    Quote
    You can not even understand your own quoted scriptures,

    Terraricca,

    It's no use telling me that unless you prove through your wisdom what that scripture means!!

    It is only a proof that you have no confidence in yourself!! or not even trust yourself.

    at least others would verify themselves.

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Charles

    Quote
    This also confirms it:

    DRBV. Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    WHO IS ABOVE JESUS THEN??? NO ONE BECAUSE HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF IN THE MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS CHRIST

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES

    in the first verse you quoted ; Philipians 2:9 For which cause God also hath exalted him, and hath given him a name which is above ALL NAMES:

    PAUL SAYS THAT GOD HIS FATHER EXALTED HIM ( SO HE DID NOT EXALTED HIMSELF)

    IN THIS VERSE ;10 That in the name of Jesus (JAHOSHUA) every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth:

    IT SAYS THAT ALL KNEE SHOULD BOW IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH AND UNDER THE EARTH

    SO THIS LAST TREE WORDS MAKE WANDER IF THERE IS A PLACE UNDER THE PLANET EARTH ,AND IF IT IS SIMBOLIC OR ALEGORIC AND IN REALITY IT TALKS ABOUT THE DEAD BEING BELOW GROUND ,THEN ALSO ALLWOULD BE NOT INCLUDING JESUS FATHER THE GOD ALMIGHTY RIGHT ? YES

    11 AND THAT EVERY TONGUE SHOULD CONFESS THAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER

    IN VERSE 11 PAUL SAYS THAT EVERY TONGUE ;;SHOULD;; (NOT HAVE TO)CONFESS THAT JESUS CHRIST IS IN THE GLORY (WHAT IS THAT GLORY ??? DO YOU KNOW???)OF GOD THE FATHER

    Quote

    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!


    Quote
    the father is truly GOD
    the son is truly GOD!

    Jammin,

    (Charles)
    This also confirms it:

    NOW THAT YOU HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING COULD YOU SHOW ME HOW THOSE VERSES CONFIRM :”” THAT THE SON HIS TRULY GOD JUST AS THE FATHER HIS TRULY GOD ???


    Quote
    PAUL SAYS THAT GOD HIS FATHER EXALTED HIM ( SO HE DID NOT EXALTED HIMSELF)

    Terraricca,

    WHEN  DO YOU AND OTHERS GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD IS A SPIRIT???

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD THROUGH HIS OWN GENUINE SPIRIT BECAME MAN???

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD BECAME ONE BEING BOTH IN FLESH AND SPIRIT AND WALKED ON EARTH AS GOD/MAN??? JESUS

    WHEN DO YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND THAT GOD DIED AS MAN  IN JESUS IN ORDER TO UNITE HIMSELF FOR ETERNITY IN THE GLORIFIED MYSTICAL BODY OF JESUS SINCE ALL THE FATHER'S FULLNESS SHOULD DWELL WITHIN???

    AND AS A SPIRIT ONLY GOD COULDN'T ACHIEVE THESE GREAT UNFATHOMABLE MYTERIES???

    SO GOD HAD TO BE BOTH FLESH AND SPIRIT AND THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE ENTIRE CREATION IN

    LIGHT AND DARKNESS

    INVISIBLE AND VISIBLE

    POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE

    GOOD AND EVIL

    MAN AND WOMAN

    LIFE AND DEATH

    AND THE LIST IS ENDLESS EVEN IN OUR ENTIRE BODY

    BUT AT THE END ALL THESE TWOS BECOME ONE LIKE THE FATHER AND THE SON  WHO BECAME ONE THROUGH JESUS. THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE AND THEREFORE HE WOULD

    Colossians 1:18…………….that in all things he may hold the primacy:

    SINCE HE IS GOD!!!

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES


    Charles

    When are going to accept that God his a powerful being and in a spirit form ,

    And that he created first his son through whom he created all other things ,

    Until you understand this basic knowledge you will not have truth,just men illusions


    Quote
    And that he created first his son through whom he created all other things ,

    Terraricca,

    God never created His Son.

    God crated first the spiritual beings through His Son while still within the Father.

    Then after the rebel,He emanated His Son to recreate all our visible creation through Him as the FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE NO MATTER WHAT?

    Did you ever realized that through the above statement Jesus' Spirit was also the first ever evil creature in Lucifer??

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Charles

    This is not in scriptures ,and so could not be trusted ,


    Quote
    This is not in scriptures ,and so could not be trusted ,

    Terraricca,

    For the love of Jesus!!

    Be specific.

    I said many things in that statement,and it is all in scripture

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