JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

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  • #305571
    terraricca
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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2012,20:08)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 10 2012,19:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:56)
    f

    scriptures says MAIDEN  I think


    Yes, I do not believe that she was actually a “virgin” when she gave birth to Yahshua.


    Luke 1
    31 You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. 32 He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end.”

    34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I have not known a man?”

    What do you think she was talking about, Frank?


    Mike

    good scriptures ,those slip my mine ,gething old I guess :D

    #305572
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    :)

    #305576
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,07:40)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,19:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:56)
    f

    scriptures says MAIDEN  I think


    Yes, I do not believe that she was actually a “virgin” when she gave birth to Yahshua.


    f

    does it matter ??? she was a surrogate mother to Christ ,the son of God


    T;

    That is not written:

    It is written that Jesus was conceived as John the Baptist.

    Why do you hope we believe you and not God?

    #305577
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2012,10:43)

    Quote (kerwin @ July 10 2012,22:38)
    T;

    God uttered and the first thing came to be; nothing or no one, but him,  existed before his utterance was begotten from him.  Each and every thing has been created by God's Utterance.


    K

    if you talk and make your utterance if you want it heard, then you would need someone that listen to it right ???


    T;

    I like my listeners to hear my voice; and I believe it is tthe same with God.

    #305579
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ July 11 2012,23:18)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2012,10:43)

    Quote (kerwin @ July 10 2012,22:38)
    T;

    God uttered and the first thing came to be; nothing or no one, but him,  existed before his utterance was begotten from him.  Each and every thing has been created by God's Utterance.


    K

    if you talk and make your utterance if you want it heard, then you would need someone that listen to it right ???


    T;

    I like my listeners to hear my voice; and I believe it is tthe same with God.


    K

    but kerwin,so God was mute before he start to create ??? you say no at first ,

    but now you say that his first creation is his spoken words

    make up your mind

    #305580
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ July 11 2012,23:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,07:40)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,19:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:56)
    f

    scriptures says MAIDEN  I think


    Yes, I do not believe that she was actually a “virgin” when she gave birth to Yahshua.


    f

    does it matter ??? she was a surrogate mother to Christ ,the son of God


    T;

    That is not written:

    It is written that Jesus was conceived as John the Baptist.

    Why do you hope we believe you and not God?


    K

    answer this ; was Mary (his Mother)more than the disciples of Christ ???

    #305583
    kerwin
    Participant

    Mike,

    Love is the sum of God's Word.

    Since all things were created by God's Word they are begotten by it while it is begotten by God.

    #305584
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:32)

    Quote (kerwin @ July 11 2012,23:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,07:40)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,19:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:56)
    f

    scriptures says MAIDEN  I think


    Yes, I do not believe that she was actually a “virgin” when she gave birth to Yahshua.


    f

    does it matter ??? she was a surrogate mother to Christ ,the son of God


    T;

    That is not written:

    It is written that Jesus was conceived as John the Baptist.

    Why do you hope we believe you and not God?


    K

    answer this ; was Mary (his Mother)more than the disciples of Christ ???


    T;

    Mary is a descendant of David's flesh whom Jehovah chose to honor by making her the mother of Jesus' flesh.  The son of her body became the father of her Spirit through the Word; when she chose to believe.

    #305597
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,12:40)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,19:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:56)
    f

    scriptures says MAIDEN  I think


    Yes, I do not believe that she was actually a “virgin” when she gave birth to Yahshua.


    f

    does it matter ??? she was a surrogate mother to Christ ,the son of God

    Pieear,

    I also do not believe that Miriam was a surrogate mother to Yahshua. I believe that Yahseph was the biological father of Yahshua.


    Pieear,

    Well, does it matter is Yahshua pre-existed his birth or not? I also do not believe that Miriam was a surrogate mother to Yahshua. I believe that Yahseph was the biological father of Yahshua.

    PAREIDOLIA

    #305598
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ July 12 2012,02:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:32)

    Quote (kerwin @ July 11 2012,23:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,07:40)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,19:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:56)
    f

    scriptures says MAIDEN  I think


    Yes, I do not believe that she was actually a “virgin” when she gave birth to Yahshua.


    f

    does it matter ??? she was a surrogate mother to Christ ,the son of God


    T;

    That is not written:

    It is written that Jesus was conceived as John the Baptist.

    Why do you hope we believe you and not God?


    K

    answer this ; was Mary (his Mother)more than the disciples of Christ ???


    T;

    Mary is a descendant of David's flesh whom Jehovah chose to honor by making her the mother of Jesus' flesh.  The son of her body became the father of her Spirit through the Word when she chose to believe.


    K
    You did not answer the question

    #305599
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 12 2012,05:09)

    Quote (kerwin @ July 12 2012,02:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:32)

    Quote (kerwin @ July 11 2012,23:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,07:40)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,19:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:56)
    f

    scriptures says MAIDEN  I think


    Yes, I do not believe that she was actually a “virgin” when she gave birth to Yahshua.


    f

    does it matter ??? she was a surrogate mother to Christ ,the son of God


    T;

    That is not written:

    It is written that Jesus was conceived as John the Baptist.

    Why do you hope we believe you and not God?


    K

    answer this ; was Mary (his Mother)more than the disciples of Christ ???


    T;

    Mary is a descendant of David's flesh whom Jehovah chose to honor by making her the mother of Jesus' flesh.  The son of her body became the father of her Spirit through the Word when she chose to believe.


    K
    You did not answer the question


    Pieear,

    What kind of a question is this?:

    “was Mary (his Mother)more than the disciples of Christ”

    Is this what you call a “trick question”? :D

    #305600
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 12 2012,11:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,12:40)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,19:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:56)
    f

    scriptures says MAIDEN  I think


    Yes, I do not believe that she was actually a “virgin” when she gave birth to Yahshua.


    f

    does it matter ??? she was a surrogate mother to Christ ,the son of God

    Pieear,

    I also do not believe that Miriam was a surrogate mother to Yahshua. I believe that Yahseph was the biological father of Yahshua.


    Pieear,

    Well, does it matter is Yahshua pre-existed his birth or not? I also do not believe that Miriam was a surrogate mother to Yahshua. I believe that Yahseph was the biological father of Yahshua.

    PAREIDOLIA


    f

    why do you not answer the question ,instead of inventing things

    #305601
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 12 2012,06:15)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 12 2012,11:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,12:40)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,19:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:56)
    f

    scriptures says MAIDEN  I think


    Yes, I do not believe that she was actually a “virgin” when she gave birth to Yahshua.


    f

    does it matter ??? she was a surrogate mother to Christ ,the son of God

    Pieear,

    I also do not believe that Miriam was a surrogate mother to Yahshua. I believe that Yahseph was the biological father of Yahshua.


    Pieear,

    Well, does it matter is Yahshua pre-existed his birth or not? I also do not believe that Miriam was a surrogate mother to Yahshua. I believe that Yahseph was the biological father of Yahshua.

    PAREIDOLIA


    f

    why do you not answer the question ,instead of inventing things


    Pieear,

    Does it matter? Does it matter to who? Well, it seems that it matters to you since you asked? If it did not matter to you, then why do you ask?

    #305603
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2012,10:40)

    Quote (942767 @ July 09 2012,14:15)
    Mike, shame on you for trying to put words in my mouth:

    No, “not the Word who became flesh”.  That is not what the scripture states.


    John 1:14
    And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    Okay, I give up.  Tell me how what I posted is not what the scripture says.


    Hi Mike:

    You added that the word WHO to the scripture.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #305605
    942767
    Participant

    Hi:

    I have this revelation to share with you.

    The “Logos” which is “the Word which God has spoken” which in John 1 pertains to Jesus “became flesh”.

    This the propetic Word of God which is not a spiritual being who became flesh otherwise you would have and “the Word was God” which you say is Jesus and if so, “Jesus is God” and “the Word became flesh” or “God became flesh”.

    On the other hand Jesus stated the following when explaining what he meant by stating that he was the bread of life that came down from heaven and explaining those scriptures about eating his flesh and drinking his blood:

    Quote
    Jhn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life

    This is the Rhema Word of God which is the Word of God which is spoken to humanity with the intent of it being obeyed and so becoming a part of a person's spirit, and so, the “spirit” does not become “flesh” but the spirit is the life that is lived through the body which happens to be flesh.

    Hebrews 1 states:

    Quote
    Hbr 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

    Hbr 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #305610
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (942767 @ July 12 2012,15:36)
    Hi:

    I have this revelation to share with you.

    The “Logos” which is “the Word which God has spoken” which in John 1 pertains to Jesus “became flesh”.

    This the propetic Word of God which is not a spiritual being who became flesh otherwise you would have and “the Word was God” which you say is Jesus and if so, “Jesus is God” and “the Word became flesh” or “God became flesh”.

    On the other hand Jesus stated the following when explaining what he meant by stating that he was the bread of life that came down from heaven and explaining those scriptures about eating his flesh and drinking his blood:

    Quote
    Jhn 6:63   It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life

    This is the Rhema Word of God which is the Word of God which is spoken to humanity with the intent of it being obeyed and so becoming a part of a person's spirit, and so, the “spirit” does not become “flesh” but the spirit is the life that is lived through the body which happens to be flesh.

    Hebrews 1 states:

    Quote
    Hbr 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,  

    Hbr 1:2   Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty

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    I have this revelation to share with you.

    this revelation of yours is not from scriptures nor is in line with them ,

    so I pass

    #305611
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 12 2012,11:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,12:40)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,19:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:56)
    f

    scriptures says MAIDEN  I think


    Yes, I do not believe that she was actually a “virgin” when she gave birth to Yahshua.


    f

    does it matter ??? she was a surrogate mother to Christ ,the son of God

    Pieear,

    I also do not believe that Miriam was a surrogate mother to Yahshua. I believe that Yahseph was the biological father of Yahshua.


    Pieear,

    Well, does it matter is Yahshua pre-existed his birth or not? I also do not believe that Miriam was a surrogate mother to Yahshua. I believe that Yahseph was the biological father of Yahshua.

    PAREIDOLIA


    F

    no comment ,do you deserve

    #305613
    kerwin
    Participant

    T;

    I did answer your question by speaking of Mary's two forms; one of the flesh and the other of the spirit. No one is greater than those that have been reborn of the Spirit by the Word. In the ways of the flesh Mary was honored above all other women in that she was chosen to be the mother of Jesus' flesh.

    #305615
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 12 2012,09:00)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 12 2012,11:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,12:40)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,19:15)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:56)
    f

    scriptures says MAIDEN  I think


    Yes, I do not believe that she was actually a “virgin” when she gave birth to Yahshua.


    f

    does it matter ??? she was a surrogate mother to Christ ,the son of God

    Pieear,

    I also do not believe that Miriam was a surrogate mother to Yahshua. I believe that Yahseph was the biological father of Yahshua.


    Pieear,

    Well, does it matter is Yahshua pre-existed his birth or not? I also do not believe that Miriam was a surrogate mother to Yahshua. I believe that Yahseph was the biological father of Yahshua.

    PAREIDOLIA


    F

    no comment ,do you deserve


    Pieear,

    But to your question you deserve an answer, right? :D

    #305616
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 12 2012,08:58)

    Quote (942767 @ July 12 2012,15:36)
    Hi:

    I have this revelation to share with you.

    The “Logos” which is “the Word which God has spoken” which in John 1 pertains to Jesus “became flesh”.

    This the propetic Word of God which is not a spiritual being who became flesh otherwise you would have and “the Word was God” which you say is Jesus and if so, “Jesus is God” and “the Word became flesh” or “God became flesh”.

    On the other hand Jesus stated the following when explaining what he meant by stating that he was the bread of life that came down from heaven and explaining those scriptures about eating his flesh and drinking his blood:

    Quote
    Jhn 6:63   It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life

    This is the Rhema Word of God which is the Word of God which is spoken to humanity with the intent of it being obeyed and so becoming a part of a person's spirit, and so, the “spirit” does not become “flesh” but the spirit is the life that is lived through the body which happens to be flesh.

    Hebrews 1 states:

    Quote
    Hbr 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,  

    Hbr 1:2   Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;  

    Love in Christ,
    Marty


    Marty

    Quote
    I have this revelation to share with you.

    this revelation of yours is not from scriptures nor is in line with them ,

    so I pass


    Pieear,

    Why pass? Why not state why you do not believe his revelation “is not from scriptures nor is in line with them”? Oh yeah! That's right! You can't function without the backing of your cronies Mike and t8! :D

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