John 1:1

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2012,12:22)

Hi T, This is what you said “no ,NICK NOT ALL THAT CALLS ON THE NAME OF CHRIST WILL BE SAVE ONLY THOSE WHO DO IT FROM A FULL HEART ,AND IN TRUTH ,TO BECOME HOLY LIKE GOD HIS,AND ACCEPTING HIS SON ” THE WORD”THAT CAME IN FLESH TO SACRIFICE HIS LIVE FOR US, “ Knowing about God and His son does not save us.

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MT 7:21 “ Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
MT 7:22 “ Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’
MT 25:11 “Later the other virgins also came, saying, ‘ Lord, lord, open up for us.’
LK 6:46 “ Why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?

that will be the answer from Jesus him self

[jammin]

the Word refers to Christ! john 1.1
when he became human , he was given a name JESUS!
that's what the bible says.

that's just so simple to understand.

[NickHassan]

Hi Jammin,
Was John the Baptist, Elijah and will Elijah come again?
From whence did the preaching and powers of Elijah and John come?

[jammin]

does it have connection in john 1.1?
the topic is about john 1.1.who is the word. that's it.

[Ed J]

JOHN 1:1 who is “The Word”?

That would be God's “HolySpirit”. (see Eph.6:17)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 25 2012,17:55)

the Word refers to Christ! john 1.1 when he became human , he was given a name JESUS! that's what the bible says. that's just so simple to understand.

Jammin,

The bible does not say the Word spoken of in John 1 is Jesus. Such an interpretation breaks scripture as it would cause a child to exist before his parent. God is not a God of Confusion.

[mikeboll64]

Kerwin,

Do you believe that John the Baptist was Elijah?

[jammin]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 26 2012,19:21)

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 25 2012,17:55) the Word refers to Christ! john 1.1 when he became human , he was given a name JESUS! that's what the bible says. that's just so simple to understand. Jammin, The bible does not say the Word spoken of in John 1 is Jesus. Such an interpretation breaks scripture as it would cause a child to exist before his parent.  God is not a God of Confusion.

yes. GOD is not a God of confusion. therefore, he is not your GOD bec you are confused.

the WORD refers to christ. we are talking here in the beginning, before everything was made, he was with GOD.

when he became human. he was given a name JESUS.

that is just your opinion. read that in john 1.1
john says “THE WORD”
it refers to christ! he is called the WORD or the WORD of GOD.

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 26 2012,17:21)

JOHN 1:1 who is “The Word”? That would be God's “HolySpirit”. (see Eph.6:17) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

eph 6.17 has no connetion in john 1.1

the meaning of eph 6.17 is GOD's word is indespensable weapon.
it refers to the teaching of GOD.

Ephesians 6:17

Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
17 Accept God’s salvation as your helmet. And take the sword of the Spirit—that sword is the teaching of God.

[Ed J]

HI Jammin,

1 Cor 14:36-38 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that
I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[kerwin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 26 2012,19:47)

Kerwin, Do you believe that John the Baptist was Elijah?

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John 1:21 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV) 21 They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?”   He said, “I am not.”   “Are you the Prophet?”   He answered, “No.”

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Luke 1 New International Version (NIV) 11 Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing at the right side of the altar of incense. 12 When Zechariah saw him, he was startled and was gripped with fear. 13 But the angel said to him: “Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to call him John. 14 He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice because of his birth, 15 for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born. 16 He will bring back many of the people of Israel to the Lord their God. 17 And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the parents to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous—to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”

[NickHassan]

The thread has been brought up.

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 26 2012,21:04)

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 26 2012,19:21) Quote (jammin @ Feb. 25 2012,17:55) the Word refers to Christ! john 1.1 when he became human , he was given a name JESUS! that's what the bible says. that's just so simple to understand. Jammin, The bible does not say the Word spoken of in John 1 is Jesus. Such an interpretation breaks scripture as it would cause a child to exist before his parent.  God is not a God of Confusion. yes. GOD is not a God of confusion. therefore, he is not your GOD bec you are confused. the WORD refers to christ. we are talking here in the beginning, before everything was made, he was with GOD. when he became human. he was given a name JESUS. that is just your opinion. read that in john 1.1 john says “THE WORD” it refers to christ! he is called the WORD or the WORD of GOD.

Jammin,

You appear to be arguing from your own authority which I do not recognize.  Can you answer why you believe that the Word spoken in John 1 is the Anointed.

You have failed to resolve the conflict between your teaching and the fact that the child does not come into existence before the parent.   According to your teaching Christ came to exist because Mary came to exist first while Mary came to exist because Christ came to exist first.  That teaching is in conflict with itself.

I do know that in beginning the Word of God was God because Jehovah personalizes his own Word.  I also know the Word was with God because it is written that the Spirit hovered over the waters  and the Spirit also personalized the Word of God.  I also know that all that has been created is created by the Word of God.  Do you disagree with that knowledge.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 26 2012,13:49)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 26 2012,19:47) Kerwin, Do you believe that John the Baptist was Elijah? Quote John 1:21 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV) 21 They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?”   He said, “I am not.”   “Are you the Prophet?”   He answered, “No.” Quote Luke 1 New International Version (NIV) 11 Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing at the right side of the altar of incense. 12 When Zechariah saw him, he was startled and was gripped with fear. 13 But the angel said to him: “Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to call him John. 14 He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice because of his birth, 15 for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born. 16 He will bring back many of the people of Israel to the Lord their God. 17 And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the parents to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous—to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”

Good, scriptural answers, Kerwin.    That's the way this site should work all the time.  

But what about these scriptures?

Malachi 4:5
“See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes.

Matthew 11:14
And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come.

Matthew 17:10-12
The disciples asked him, “Why then do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?”  Jesus replied, “To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things.  But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.”

[jammin]

ed j,
it is very clear that you dont understand eph 6.17
my advise to you is dont use a verse if you dont know exactly the right meaning of it.

kerwin,
that is what the bible says. the WORD is christ! what are you talking about??
christ became human! you said the word is JESUS. there was no JESUS in the beginning kerwin. we are talking about the beginning of all beginnings. it was CHRIST who was with GOD! when he became human he was given a name jesus! that's what the bible says!

if you dont believe that the WORD is christ. then who is the WORD in john 1.1?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 26 2012,14:15)

You have failed to resolve the conflict between your teaching and the fact that the child does not come into existence before the parent.

Yet there is one mentioned in history who was both the Root AND the Branch of another. That one is Jesus.

Normally, the branch does not exist before the root. But then, the life of Jesus was anything but normal.

[david]

Quote (jammin @ Feb. 27 2012,11:29)

ed j, it is very clear that you dont understand eph 6.17 my advise to you is dont use a verse if you dont know exactly the right meaning of it. kerwin, that is what the bible says. the WORD is christ! what are you talking about?? christ became human! you said the word is JESUS. there was no JESUS in the beginning kerwin. we are talking about the beginning of all beginnings. it was CHRIST who was with GOD! when he became human he was given a name jesus! that's what the bible says! if you dont believe that the WORD is christ. then who is the WORD in john 1.1?

Jammin, doesn't “Christ” or “messiah” literally mean “anointed one.”

Didn't he in fact become the anointed one (Christ) when he was anointed with holy spirit?

[mikeboll64]

Luke 2
11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord.

26 It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not die before he had seen the Lord’s Christ.

29 “Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
you now dismiss your servant in peace.

Apparently, Jesus was the Christ from no later than 8 days old.

[NickHassan]

Yes MB,
Elijah could never BE John the baptist in our understanding but references to the Spirit in scripture are different.

The same with Jesus becoming Jesus Christ by the SPIRIT OF CHRIST

[terraricca]

david

Jn 1:32 Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him.
Jn 1:33 I would not have known him, except that the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is he who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’
Jn 1:34 I have seen and I testify that this is the Son of God.”

Mt 3:16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him.
Mt 3:17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

yes Christ was anointed in the Jordan river just as scriptures says ;

Isa 61:1 The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me,
because the LORD has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim freedom for the captives
and release from darkness for the prisoners,
Isa 61:2 to proclaim the year of the LORD'S favor
and the day of vengeance of our God,
to comfort all who mourn,
Isa 61:3 and provide for those who grieve in Zion—
to bestow on them a crown of beauty
instead of ashes,
the oil of gladness
instead of mourning,
and a garment of praise
instead of a spirit of despair.
They will be called oaks of righteousness,
a planting of the LORD
for the display of his splendor.

Isa 61:4 They will rebuild the ancient ruins
and restore the places long devastated;
they will renew the ruined cities
that have been devastated for generations.
Isa 61:5 Aliens will shepherd your flocks;
foreigners will work your fields and vineyards.
Isa 61:6 And you will be called priests of the LORD,
you will be named ministers of our God.
You will feed on the wealth of nations,
and in their riches you will boast.

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