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LU….. Jesus said, not me,
luk 18: 19…..”Why callest thou “me good? “NONE” is good, SAVE ONE, that is God.
Do you actually think that statement of Jesus, doesn’t apply to him also? Do you think the ruler was not talking to him? Do you believe Jesus was lying when he said that?
LU…..You see that’s the trouble here, many say they believe in Jesus, but don’t truly believe in what he says.
Fact is what Jesus said there is “EXACTLY” RIGHT, there is “ONLY” ONE that is truly or completely good , and that is God the Father. Jesus was not saying we or he don’t do good things, at times. Because he also said this, ‘if you being evil know how to give “good gifts”, to your children , how much more will you Heavenly Father give them that ask of his spirit, so yes we all do good at times even Jesus is called “the “good” shepherd” right?, But Jesus was speaking of the only one that was “completely good” and that is God the Father, He is the , ONLY “TRULY” GOOD ONE.
Peace and love to you and yours……..gene
Gene
Jesus, in his humanity was to demonstrate on our earth that man by the grace of God (forgiveness) and the communion of the spirit with Him can keep his holy law.
JESUS AS THE DIVINE SON WAS CERTAINLY GOOD, LIKE HIS FATHERIT IS TRUE THAT AT THE ORIGIN OF EVERYTHING, IT IS THE FATHER WHO RECEIVES ALL HONORS.
Are you and your Father the same person?
I never said that Jesus is the Father.
Yahweh is the God and Father of Jesus Christ.You can’t deceive me.
Christ Himself taught in the most emphatic manner that
He is God. When the young man came and asked, “Good
Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?”
Jesus, before replying to the direct question, said, “Why
callest thou Me good? there is none good but One, that is,
God.” Mark 10:17, 18. What did Jesus mean by these
words? Did He mean to disclaim the epithet as applied to
Himself? Did He mean to intimate that He was not
absolutely good? Was it a modest depreciation of
Himself?—By no means; for Christ was absolutely good.
To the Jews, who were continually watching to detect in
Him some failing of which they might accuse Him, He
boldly said, “Which of you convinceth me of sin?” John
8:46. In the whole Jewish nation not a man could be found
who had ever seen Him do a thing or heard Him utter a
word that had even the semblance of evil; and those who
were determined to condemn Him could do it only by
hiring false witnesses against Him. Peter says that He “did
no sin, neither was guile found in His mouth.” 1 Peter 2:22.
Paul says that He “knew no sin.” 2 Cor. 5:21. The Psalmist
says, “He is my Rock, and there is no unrighteousness in
Him.” Ps. 92:15. And John says, “Ye know that He was
manifested to take away our sins; and in Him is no sin.” 1
John 3:5.
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Christ cannot deny Himself, therefore He could not say
that He was not good. He is and was absolutely good, the
perfection of goodness. And since there is none good but
God, and Christ is good, it follows that Christ is God, and
that this is what He meant to teach the young man.
It was this that He taught the disciples. When Philip said
to Jesus, “Show us the Father, and it sufficeth us,” Jesus
said to him: “Have I been so long time with you, and yet
hast thou not known Me, Philip? he that hath seen Me hath
seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the
Father?” John 14:8, 9. This is as emphatic as when He said,
“I and My Father are one.” John 10:30. So truly was Christ
God, even when here among men, that when asked to
exhibit the Father He could say, Behold Me. And this
brings to mind the statement that when the Father brought
the First-begotten into the world, He said, “And let all the angels of God worship Him.” Heb. 1:6. It was not simply
when Christ was sharing the glory of the Father before the
world was that He was entitled to homage, but when He
came a Babe in Bethlehem, even then all the angels of God
were commanded to adore Him.
The Jews did not misunderstand Christ’s teaching
concerning Himself. When He declared that He was one
with the Father, the Jews took up stones to stone Him; and
when He asked them for which of His good works they
sought to stone Him, they [15] replied: “For a good work
we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that
Thou, being a man, makest Thyself God.” John 10:33. If
He had been what they regarded Him, a mere man, His
words would indeed have been blasphemy; but He was
God.
The object of Christ in coming to earth was to reveal
God to men, so that they might come to Him. Thus the
apostle Paul says that “God was in Christ, reconciling the
world unto Himself” (2 Cor. 5:19); and in John we read that
the Word, which was God, was “made flesh.” John 1:1,14.
In the same connection it is stated, “No man hath seen God
at any time; the only-begotten Son, which is in the bosom
of the Father, He hath declared Him” (or made Him
known). John 1:18.
Note the expression, “the only-begotten Son, which is in
the bosom of the Father.” He has His abode there, and He is
there as a part of the Godhead, as surely when on earth as
when in heaven. The use of the present tense implies
continued existence. It presents the same idea that is
contained in the statement of Jesus to the Jews (John 8:58),
“Before Abraham was, I am.” And this again shows His
identity with the One who appeared to Moses in the
burning bush, who declared His name to be “I AM THAT I
AM.”
And, finally, we have the inspired words of the apostle
Paul concerning Jesus Christ, that “it pleased the Father
that in Him should all fullness [16] dwell.” Col. 1:19.Christ AND His righteousness
from E.J.Waggoner
Christ Himself taught in the most emphatic manner that
He is God.Is God, Jesus’ Father?
“Yes” or “No”
Edj
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2] The same was in the beginning with God.
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.Yes God the Father IS the Father of Jesus.
Jésus IS the only begotten Son OF GOD(see John 3:16)
Christ Himself taught in the most emphatic manner that
He is God.Is God, Jesus’ Father?
“Yes” or “No”
Yes God the Father IS the Father of Jesus.
Hi Berean, your words don’t add up.
Are you claiming: that Jesus fathered Himself?
“Yes” or “No” ?
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God bless
Ed JEdj
Read Hebrews 1
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
[2] Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
[3] Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
[4] Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
[5] For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?Christ Himself taught in the most emphatic manner that
He is God.Is God, Jesus’ Father?
“Yes” or “No”
Yes God the Father IS the Father of Jesus.
Hi Berean,
Are you claiming: that Jesus fathered Himself?
“Yes” or “No” ?Will you please answer my question
Edj
Read Hebrews 1
We can discuss Hebrews 1 another time.
Now will you please answer my questionAre you claiming: that Jesus fathered Himself?
“Yes” or “No” ?
Ed J
Ed J wrote:
Hi Berean, your words don’t add up.
Are you claiming: that Jesus fathered Himself?
Ed J, are you claiming to not comprehend the idea of more than one member in the unity of YHVH which is Father, Son , and Spirit? Or are you just trying really hard to not consider it?
Berean…..Just the opposite , what Jesus said, proves he was and is not a GOD. Why do you people have to twist up every thing Jesus clearly said , to make it fit your false teachings.
Here is what Jesus truly said, “this is life eternal that they might know “YOU” the “ONLY” true GOD,
PAUL said this, “but unto us (true believers) there is but “ONE” God, and one mediator between men and God, THE “MAN” Jesus Christ. ”
This is not to even mention the many places that GOD THE FATHER HIMSELF SAID ,” I AM GOD, and there is “NO” other GOD besides ME. There is about ten places where God the Father said that in scripture. Do I need to quote them again here? What good would it do?
Berean you not only do not believe what Jesus says , or Paul said, you don’t even believe what God Almighty himself says.
Your problem, you take a scripture that doesn’t actually say what you are saying and force the text to say what you want it to say, by adding your own words to them, while all the time ignoring the scriptures that say just the opposite things. Tell me Berean is that good and honest scholarship?
You can not produce a single scripture where Jesus ever said he was a God, not one, or where he ever said “he” was the word of God “himself”. But I can produce scripture where he said the words he was speaking to us “was not “HIS” “words”, but the words of him that sent him.
GOD the Father Was in the prophets speaking to us through them , and he was also in Jesus his son speaking to through him, but that does not make Jesus a God, no more then it made the prophets a God either.
Berean, question is, when are you going to stop believing what false Christianity is saying, and start to believe in what Jesus and the prophets who were directly quoting GOD the Father, have said.
Peace and love to you and yours………gene
You said “Hi Danny,
Funny how right after I show you that isn’t the case,
you go right on repeating it as if it is true.Odd really ???”
So Ed J is right and all others are wrong.
I don’t like your attitude.Jesus is so wonderful, the Father is so loving, and their spirit is so comforting.
Amen!
God bless,
Danny
You said “Hi Danny,
Funny how right after I show you that isn’t the case,
you go right on repeating it as if it is true.Odd really ???”
So Ed J is right and all others are wrong.
I don’t like your attitude.“We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is
begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.” (1 John 5:18-19)Hi Berean,
Are you claiming: that Jesus fathered Himself?
“Yes” or “No” ?
Will you please answer my question
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