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Ed,
Christ liveth in Paul? “Yes” or “No” ?
You do not include a context so I do not know in what sense you mean.
Spiritually yes but bodily no. Paul is one with Christ Jesus in the union of the Spirit which is why Jesus prayed that believers would be in him and God and him and God would be in Jesus.
Not everyone is given the same authority by the Spirit.(1 Corinthians 12:28-29)
Hi Kerwin,
In the context that Christ in Paul is baptizing with God’s HolySpirit; not Paul bodily, no, but Christ in him.
You disagree?
Hi Nick,
(1)So if one is baptized as a Jehovah Witness, is that an acceptable “water baptism”?
Or (2) how about if one is baptized Mormon, is that an acceptable “water baptism”?
These are serious questions, and I expect you to answer respond to them as such.3. Roman Catholic?
4. Pentecostal?
5. Baptist?Please answer these five for me
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God bless
Ed JOK Nick,
Let me be specific, can any Church perform this task?
You implied NO, as you did not accept the list I gave.If you don’t like my list, please give me some direction.
Since you believe “water baptize” is necessary, please
do tell me which Church does a valid water baptism?Is any Church that says: “in Jesus name” acceptable?
Hi ED
Let me be specific, can any Church perform this task?
A FOOLISH QUESTION.
THOSE IN THE BODY OF CHRIST DO THIS NOT THOSE IN THE FALSE CHURCH.
AGAIN REPENTANCE IS THE ISSUEHi ED,
ANOTHER FOOLISH QUESTION.
Your arguments are with scripture and the God Who inspired it.
Why would you think a servant quoting scripture makes himself God?
Ed,
He is in Paul spiritually but Paul was given to be an apostle and not the Christ. (1 Corinthians 12:28-29)
Only Christ has the power the immerse other in the Holy Spirit and fire. (Matthew 3:11) He and God are the only ones said to have that authority in Scripture.
terrarica,
kw
I am not sure what you mean as the apostles did immerse student-followers in the name of Christ. We do not have record of all the apostles ministries.
what I said is clear; one more thing in Matt 28;19 it says also to be baptized in the name of the holy spirit ;what is the name of the holy spirit ? and where in scriptures does it say to be baptized in the name of the holy spirit ?
I know of in the name of Jesus ,but please answer
There is a weak argument that the words “in the name of Son, the Father, and the Holy Spirit” were not written in Matthew but the evidence is full of holes and so the argument supporting the idea is at best academic.
I take the easy route of believing the words “in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit” mean the same thing as “in the name of Jesus” which leads me to conclude it is not a formula a person utters with their mouth but it is the authority they are given by God and Jesus living in them by the Holy Spirit.
Nick
any religion that preach lies is a part of the whore and those that have accepted their preachings are servants of the whore ,
water is meant to clean us and drink of or make drinks from it ,it will by no means save anyone ,but living by the truth of God and fulfil the works of the spirit that will give life
Hi,
Understanding is not essential but obedience is.
If being the first to enter the pool at Bethesda was necessary to be healed then arguing about it was not going to help.
Hi Nick,
Do tell me which Church does a valid water baptism?
Is any Church that says: “in Jesus name” acceptable? (<– please answer)_______________
God bless
Ed JNick
sorry but you are wrong even the enuk was teach by philippe and only then baptized,
Jesus came to instruct us not to keep us ignorant as you want those converts of yours to be
yes the pool was to tell us that things don’t come by it self we have to do some thing about it like ;Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”
water is meant to clean us and drink of or make drinks from it ,it will by no means save anyone
So, according to some members of this board, water is only to clean us and drink and will by no means save us.
Not according to the good Saint Peter, (1Peter3:21) “Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience”Do tell me which Church does a valid water baptism?
Is any Church that says: “in Jesus name” acceptable? (<– please answer)It is the heart of the believer which is acceptable. How could you not know that?
Hi ed,
Those in the body of Christ are given the role.
They were the servants used in the early church and nothing has changed.
They are not in the whore.
Many are called but few are chosen.
To all…….”WHO EVER CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD “SHALL” BE SAVED”.
The chosen were chose for specific purposes, like the prophets, leaders like Moses , king David , Joshua , and Jesus, and John the Baptist, why to serve the “many who are called” not all who are called are chosen for a specific purpose other then being saved. That could wellbe the meaning of the words ” many are called, but few chosen. IMO
peace and love to all of you and yours…………….gene
Gene,
So what do the following words of Jesus have to do with the words “whoever cries on the name the name of the Lord will be saved”?
John 14:14-17Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Hi GB,
You quote Joel 2 .32 which is specific for the end times.
Paul broadens the meaning in Romans 10.13 to cover all who are preached to and respond with obedience.
Hi ed,
Those in the body of Christ are given the role.
Hi Nick,
First I gave you a list of Churches in my area and asked which one is acceptable, and you did not answer ?
Next, I asked if they say “in Jesus’ name” would any church be acceptable, once again you did not answer ??“Church of Christ” believes “water baptism” is necessary for salvation, and
I think the “Seventh Day Adventists” believe “water baptism” is necessary.
If they say “in Jesus Name” – are either of these Churches acceptable?Please Nick, if you are not going to answer my questions,
I see no point in discussing anything with you.
…can you at least try to answer ???
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