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  • #341013
    2besee
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    Have to get back to the rest of the posts when I have some more time.

    #341016
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (kerwin @ April 06 2013,00:42)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,09:44)
    Surely you jest, Kerwin.  Does 2B believe that?  How about Abe?  Gene?  Ed J?  Marty?

    BTW, nice try, but the Word WAS MADE flesh.  The word “egeneto” is a VERB, Kerwin.  In your wording, it would mean that someone called the Word actually MADE (ie: created) some flesh.  

    In reality, the Word “BECAME flesh”.


    Mike,

    Are you stating my grammar is wrong because I changed the type of past verb.  It is good grammar according to the test at grammarly.com.

    The wood was made a bat.


    That's funny, Kerwin. I just pasted your first sentence into that site, and your sentence received a 67 out of 100. The notes were “weak, needs revision”.

    #341035
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,12:54)
    Seems fairly obvious that John is testifying ABOUT Jesus Christ, and mentions the Holy Spirit only to let us know that the Son of God will baptize WITH that Spirit.


    Mike………You couldn't be more wrong even if you tried. It was the Holy spirit that was the identifying mark as to who the “MAN” God was with, and It descended down from above, from heaven and remained on the Man Jesus and that is when the Word which was and is God who is “SPIRIT” came to be “IN” the man Jesus. The holy spirit was the identifying mark as to who Jesus was in the plan and will of God.

    To down play the significance of the Holy Spirit is pure foolishness because it is all about the Holy Spirit of God with Jesus and us also. Jesus said clearly he could do “NOTHING” of “HIMSELF”. What part of those word don't you understand is it the word “NOTHING” or “HIMSELF” you don't get? .

    Face the truth Mike you simply move what ever is said to fit you own false interpretations and use every trick you can think of to do it with.

    But where things are indeed clearly stated you simply deny them, even if God himself said it. God himself said there are no other Gods beside him But Mike say that is a lie there are all kinds of other gods i gusess everyone is a little god right Mike? Bold are you Mike i will give you that to even deny God very own words.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………..gene

    #341036
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 06 2013,21:01)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,12:54)
    Seems fairly obvious that John is testifying ABOUT Jesus Christ, and mentions the Holy Spirit only to let us know that the Son of God will baptize WITH that Spirit.


    Mike………You couldn't be more wrong even if you tried. It was the Holy spirit that was the identifying mark as to who the “MAN”  God was with, and It descended  down from above, from heaven and remained on the Man Jesus and that is when the Word which was and is God who is “SPIRIT” came to be “IN” the man Jesus. The holy spirit was the identifying mark as to who Jesus was in the plan and will of God.

    To down play the significance of the Holy Spirit is pure foolishness because it is all about the Holy Spirit of God with Jesus and us also.  Jesus said clearly he could do “NOTHING” of “HIMSELF”. What part of those word don't you understand is it the word “NOTHING” or “HIMSELF” you don't get? .

    Face the truth Mike you simply move what ever is said to fit you own false interpretations and use every trick you can think of to do it with.  

    But where things are indeed clearly stated  you simply deny them, even if God himself said it.  God himself said there are no other Gods beside him But Mike say that is a lie there are all kinds of other gods i gusess everyone is a little god right Mike?  Bold are you Mike i will give you that to even deny God very own words.

    peace and love to you  and yours…………………………..gene


    Gene

    There we go again mixing God's body with his rules ,will,and love ,mind

    God does not jump into anyone ,but it is his will ,and understanding that enter the heart of the true and righteous believers ,because that is the only way we as true believer can respond to the love In us for God ,

    #341037
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ April 05 2013,23:18)

    Quote (abe @ April 06 2013,05:52)

    Quote (2besee @ April 05 2013,03:11)

    Quote (abe @ April 05 2013,16:03)
    Hi Mike,

    (quote)
    Kerwin, where are the scriptures that teach us that John the Baptist came to testify about the Holy Spirit at all – let alone “the Holy Spirit Son of God”?

    Jn.1:29   The next day John sees Jesus coming to him, and said, Behold the Lamb of God, which takes away the sin of the world. 30This is he of whom I said, After me comes a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. 31And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. 32And John bore record, saying, I saw the    SPIRIT descending from heaven like a dove, and it stayed  on  him. 33And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said to me, On whom you shall see the SPIRIT   descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which   baptizes   with the    Holy Ghost.    34And I saw, and bore record that this is the     Son of God.

    Jn.3:29   “He who has the    BRIDE     is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice. So this joy of mine has been made full. 30“He must increase, but I must decrease.

    And John bore record, saying, I saw the    SPIRIT descending from heaven like a dove, and it stayed  on  him.

    “He who has the    BRIDE     is the bridegroom;

    The Spirit is the Bride.

    Peace.


    Abe, I'm starting to see it now.

    Rev.21

    [1] Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
    [2] And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband;
    [3] and I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling of God is with men. He will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself will be with them;
    [4] he will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning nor crying nor pain any more, for the former things have passed away.”

    ——————

    That is connected right?


    Hi 2b,

    Amen.

    Bride

    Rom.8:22   For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. 23And not only this, but also we     ourselves,      HAVING the     FIRSTFRUITS      of the   Spirit,   even we ourselves groan within ourselves,   waiting   eagerly for [our] adoption as sons, the    Redemption    of our body.

    2Cor.1:21-22    Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He    anointed     us, set his   Seal  of ownership on us, and put his   Spirit   in our hearts as a    Deposit,   Guaranteeing what is      TO COME.

    Deposit is the Bride.    To Come is the Wife.
    New Jerusalem            Holy Jerusalem

    Eph.1:13   In Him,(Christ) you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation– having also believed, you were   Sealed    in   Him with the HOLY SPIRIT   of    Promise,    14who is given as a   PLEDGE (deposit)     of our    inheritance,   with a view to the  redemption    of [God's own] possession, to the praise of His glory.

    2Cor.5:4   For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the     SPIRIT    as a   DEPOSIT,   Guaranteeing  what   is           TO COME.

    I hope this helps.

    Peace brother.


    Hi Abe.

    Do you believe that The Holy Spirit and Jesus became ONE?

    Where do you believe Jesus is NOW?

    Thank you Abe.


    Hi 2b,

    Acts2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

    having received of the Father

    Jn.16:7 “But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will NOT come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.

    Jn.14:18 “I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to You.

    Looks like he got married.

    Peace brother..

    #341047
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,14:17)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 06 2013,00:42)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,09:44)
    Surely you jest, Kerwin.  Does 2B believe that?  How about Abe?  Gene?  Ed J?  Marty?

    BTW, nice try, but the Word WAS MADE flesh.  The word “egeneto” is a VERB, Kerwin.  In your wording, it would mean that someone called the Word actually MADE (ie: created) some flesh.  

    In reality, the Word “BECAME flesh”.


    Mike,

    Are you stating my grammar is wrong because I changed the type of past verb.  It is good grammar according to the test at grammarly.com.

    The wood was made a bat.


    That's funny, Kerwin.  I just pasted your first sentence into that site, and your sentence received a 67 out of 100.  The notes were “weak, needs revision”.


    Mike,

    grammarly.com does not like passive “was made”.  It is in the KJV though.

    The bottom line is that Jesus is the Word made flesh.  

    Quote
    Jesus is the Word made flesh. The Bible is the Word made text

    I obtained that quote third hand from a blog but it is well written.  It is credited to someone that was on the  television.

    #341055
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2013,04:31)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,14:17)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 06 2013,00:42)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,09:44)
    Surely you jest, Kerwin.  Does 2B believe that?  How about Abe?  Gene?  Ed J?  Marty?

    BTW, nice try, but the Word WAS MADE flesh.  The word “egeneto” is a VERB, Kerwin.  In your wording, it would mean that someone called the Word actually MADE (ie: created) some flesh.  

    In reality, the Word “BECAME flesh”.


    Mike,

    Are you stating my grammar is wrong because I changed the type of past verb.  It is good grammar according to the test at grammarly.com.

    The wood was made a bat.


    That's funny, Kerwin.  I just pasted your first sentence into that site, and your sentence received a 67 out of 100.  The notes were “weak, needs revision”.


    Mike,

    grammarly.com does not like passive “was made”.  It is in the KJV though.

    The bottom line is that Jesus is the Word made flesh.  

    Quote
    Jesus is the Word made flesh. The Bible is the Word made text

    I obtained that quote third hand from a blog but it is well written.  It is credited to someone that was on the  television.


    K

    if what you say and believe then all the prophets that spoke to men from the received words from God ,can say what you believe ;THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH ;

    BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THIS VIEW IS HOW CAN WORDS EITHER VERBAL OR WRITTEN BECOME FLESH ,FLESH HIS A MATERIAL RELATED TO BOXING IN THE SOUL OF MEN OR ANIMALES ,

    PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME

    #341069
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 07 2013,05:20)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2013,04:31)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,14:17)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 06 2013,00:42)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,09:44)
    Surely you jest, Kerwin.  Does 2B believe that?  How about Abe?  Gene?  Ed J?  Marty?

    BTW, nice try, but the Word WAS MADE flesh.  The word “egeneto” is a VERB, Kerwin.  In your wording, it would mean that someone called the Word actually MADE (ie: created) some flesh.  

    In reality, the Word “BECAME flesh”.


    Mike,

    Are you stating my grammar is wrong because I changed the type of past verb.  It is good grammar according to the test at grammarly.com.

    The wood was made a bat.


    That's funny, Kerwin.  I just pasted your first sentence into that site, and your sentence received a 67 out of 100.  The notes were “weak, needs revision”.


    Mike,

    grammarly.com does not like passive “was made”.  It is in the KJV though.

    The bottom line is that Jesus is the Word made flesh.  

    Quote
    Jesus is the Word made flesh. The Bible is the Word made text

    I obtained that quote third hand from a blog but it is well written.  It is credited to someone that was on the  television.


    K

    if what you say and believe then all the prophets that spoke to men from the received words from God ,can say what you believe ;THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH ;

    BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THIS VIEW IS HOW CAN WORDS EITHER VERBAL OR WRITTEN BECOME FLESH ,FLESH HIS A MATERIAL RELATED TO BOXING IN THE SOUL OF MEN OR ANIMALES ,

    PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME


    T,

    Scripture answers the how with these words.

    Jeremiah 31:33
    King James Version (KJV)

    33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

    #341074
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 07 2013,04:22)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 06 2013,21:01)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,12:54)
    Seems fairly obvious that John is testifying ABOUT Jesus Christ, and mentions the Holy Spirit only to let us know that the Son of God will baptize WITH that Spirit.


    Mike………You couldn't be more wrong even if you tried. It was the Holy spirit that was the identifying mark as to who the “MAN”  God was with, and It descended  down from above, from heaven and remained on the Man Jesus and that is when the Word which was and is God who is “SPIRIT” came to be “IN” the man Jesus. The holy spirit was the identifying mark as to who Jesus was in the plan and will of God.

    To down play the significance of the Holy Spirit is pure foolishness because it is all about the Holy Spirit of God with Jesus and us also.  Jesus said clearly he could do “NOTHING” of “HIMSELF”. What part of those word don't you understand is it the word “NOTHING” or “HIMSELF” you don't get? .

    Face the truth Mike you simply move what ever is said to fit you own false interpretations and use every trick you can think of to do it with.  

    But where things are indeed clearly stated  you simply deny them, even if God himself said it.  God himself said there are no other Gods beside him But Mike say that is a lie there are all kinds of other gods i gusess everyone is a little god right Mike?  Bold are you Mike i will give you that to even deny God very own words.

    peace and love to you  and yours…………………………..gene


    Gene

    There we go again mixing God's body with his rules ,will,and love ,mind

    God does not jump into anyone ,but it is his will ,and understanding that enter the heart of the true and righteous believers ,because that is the only way we as true believer can respond to the love In us for God ,


    Terricca……….No matter how man times Jesus said the Father was truly “IN” him you people refuse to believe him , you have no idea what a spirit is much less how it functions. So you come back with you usual comments . I am not mixing any body with any rules, God is a Spirit and does not have a body. Again you seem to have absolutely no idea what a spirit, much less how it can exist “IN” a person. So after all your so called 40 or so years of thinking you know what scripture say you still don't seem to even have a clue do you Pierre?

    Peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene

    #341106
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2013,07:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 07 2013,05:20)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2013,04:31)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,14:17)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 06 2013,00:42)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,09:44)
    Surely you jest, Kerwin.  Does 2B believe that?  How about Abe?  Gene?  Ed J?  Marty?

    BTW, nice try, but the Word WAS MADE flesh.  The word “egeneto” is a VERB, Kerwin.  In your wording, it would mean that someone called the Word actually MADE (ie: created) some flesh.  

    In reality, the Word “BECAME flesh”.


    Mike,

    Are you stating my grammar is wrong because I changed the type of past verb.  It is good grammar according to the test at grammarly.com.

    The wood was made a bat.


    That's funny, Kerwin.  I just pasted your first sentence into that site, and your sentence received a 67 out of 100.  The notes were “weak, needs revision”.


    Mike,

    grammarly.com does not like passive “was made”.  It is in the KJV though.

    The bottom line is that Jesus is the Word made flesh.  

    Quote
    Jesus is the Word made flesh. The Bible is the Word made text

    I obtained that quote third hand from a blog but it is well written.  It is credited to someone that was on the  television.


    K

    if what you say and believe then all the prophets that spoke to men from the received words from God ,can say what you believe ;THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH ;

    BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THIS VIEW IS HOW CAN WORDS EITHER VERBAL OR WRITTEN BECOME FLESH ,FLESH HIS A MATERIAL RELATED TO BOXING IN THE SOUL OF MEN OR ANIMALES ,

    PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME


    T,

    Scripture answers the how with these words.

    Jeremiah 31:33
    King James Version (KJV)

    33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.


    K

    you must not understand what your quoted scripture mean,

    because ;

    Jer 31:33 “This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
    after that time,” declares the LORD.
    “I will put my law in their minds
    and write it on their hearts.
    I will be their God,
    and they will be my people.
    Jer 31:34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
    or a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’
    because they will all know me,
    from the least of them to the greatest,”
    declares the LORD.
    “For I will forgive their wickedness
    and will remember their sins no more.”
    Jer 31:35 This is what the LORD says,

    Ex 34:10 Then the LORD said: “I am making a covenant with you. Before all your people I will do wonders never before done in any nation in all the world.

    DT 6:5 “ You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.

    do you see that the new covenant is of grace ,but what was changed ??? does DT 6;5 is annulled ??? i do not think so ,
    did EX 34;10 changed ??? JN 4:48 So Jesus said to him, “Unless you people see signs and wonders, you simply will not believe.”

    Jn 21:25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

    SO WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS CHANGED ??? ARE ONE OF THOSE JESUS TALK ABOUT IN JN.4;48 ???

    SO THE COVENANT ARE THE LAWS OF GOD;BUT WRITTEN ON THE PERSON INSIDE PART ,THE HEART AND SOUL,

    IN EVERYONE THAT DOES DO THAT ,HE WILL LIVE WITH AND WALK WITH GOD IN TRUTH ,BUT YOUR CLAIM OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE WAY THAT THE WORDS BECOME FLESH ,YOU HAVE MISSED THE TRAIN ,SO TO SPEAK,

    JOHN 1;1-& MENTION A PERSON BY SAYING : Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us;

    Jn 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

    Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’

    SO YOU ARE MISS USING THAT SCRIPTURE PLEASE EXPLAIN IT WITH TRUTH

    #341107
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 07 2013,07:48)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 07 2013,04:22)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 06 2013,21:01)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,12:54)
    Seems fairly obvious that John is testifying ABOUT Jesus Christ, and mentions the Holy Spirit only to let us know that the Son of God will baptize WITH that Spirit.


    Mike………You couldn't be more wrong even if you tried. It was the Holy spirit that was the identifying mark as to who the “MAN”  God was with, and It descended  down from above, from heaven and remained on the Man Jesus and that is when the Word which was and is God who is “SPIRIT” came to be “IN” the man Jesus. The holy spirit was the identifying mark as to who Jesus was in the plan and will of God.

    To down play the significance of the Holy Spirit is pure foolishness because it is all about the Holy Spirit of God with Jesus and us also.  Jesus said clearly he could do “NOTHING” of “HIMSELF”. What part of those word don't you understand is it the word “NOTHING” or “HIMSELF” you don't get? .

    Face the truth Mike you simply move what ever is said to fit you own false interpretations and use every trick you can think of to do it with.  

    But where things are indeed clearly stated  you simply deny them, even if God himself said it.  God himself said there are no other Gods beside him But Mike say that is a lie there are all kinds of other gods i gusess everyone is a little god right Mike?  Bold are you Mike i will give you that to even deny God very own words.

    peace and love to you  and yours…………………………..gene


    Gene

    There we go again mixing God's body with his rules ,will,and love ,mind

    God does not jump into anyone ,but it is his will ,and understanding that enter the heart of the true and righteous believers ,because that is the only way we as true believer can respond to the love In us for God ,


    Terricca……….No matter how man times Jesus said the Father was truly “IN” him you people refuse to believe him ,  you have no idea what a spirit is much less how it functions. So you come back with you usual comments . I am not mixing any body with any rules, God is a Spirit and does not have a body. Again you seem to have absolutely no idea what a spirit, much less how it can exist “IN” a person. So after all your so called 40 or so years of thinking you know what scripture say you still don't seem to even have a clue do you Pierre?  

    Peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene


    Gene

    I know it very well what spirit are and what they are not wen you read the context

    #341142
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Gene,

    It seriously tires me to address your posts.  They are usually unorganized, hard to read, and repeat the same old tired stuff I've addressed for you a thousand times already.  But here goes………….

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 06 2013,09:01)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,12:54)
    Seems fairly obvious that John is testifying ABOUT Jesus Christ, and mentions the Holy Spirit only to let us know that the Son of God will baptize WITH that Spirit.


    Mike………You couldn't be more wrong even if you tried. It was the Holy spirit that was the identifying mark as to who the “MAN”  God was with,


    Okay Gene, when someone testifies about someone else, his comments are about that someone else, right?  What exactly does John say ABOUT the Holy Spirit, Gene?  See if you can spot the difference in these two examples:

    1.  JESUS will baptize with the Holy Spirit.

    2.  It is the HOLY SPIRIT that Jesus will baptize with.

    #1 is a testimony about JESUS, because HE is the subject of the sentence.  #2 is a testimony about THE HOLY SPIRIT, because IT is the subject.

    Now, go find me a scripture where the HOLY SPIRIT is the subject, and John is testifying about it.

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 06 2013,09:01)
    To down play the significance of the Holy Spirit is pure foolishness…….


    I've never done such a thing.  This is the most irritating thing about yours posts, Gene.  You are always attributing unscriptural beliefs to me, Pierre, t8, and others………. beliefs none of us has ever claimed.   ???

    My point is NOT that the Holy Spirit of God is unimportant, Gene.  My point is to show that John 1:6-7 says John the Baptist was sent to testify about someone, or something.  And there are at least 5 scriptures where it is CLEARLY said that John was sent to testify about JESUS.  There are NO scriptures that EVER say John was sent to testify about the Holy Spirit.

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 06 2013,09:01)
    God himself said there are no other Gods beside him But Mike say that is a lie there are all kinds of other gods


    Gene, how many times must I say the same things to you?  Jehovah definitely said that besides Him, there were no “elohim”.  But are there other “elohim”?  YES or NO?

    The scriptural answer is “YES – MANY OF THEM!”  So you tell me how I'm ignoring God's words by believing the scriptures.  Even Jehovah spoke of the gods of Egypt, and foretold that Jesus would be called a mighty god, right?  And it was Jehovah who called Satan “the god of Ekron”, right?

    I just don't understand WHY I have to go through all of this with you OVER and OVER and OVER.  It's frustrating to me.  You have already acknowledged that there were others who were called “gods”, but that they weren't gods like Jehovah is God.  I agree with this, Gene.  I'll tell you what:  If you can post for all of us, in BIG, BOLD LETTERS, that there is LITERALLY only ONE elohim in the entire scriptures, then we will believe that YOU actually believe it – despite the fact it is wrong.

    On the other hand, if you are NOT willing to post such a thing, because you know it's not the truth, then I don't expect to read this nonsense about me not believing God's own words ever again.  Deal?

    #341150
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 07 2013,10:14)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2013,07:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 07 2013,05:20)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2013,04:31)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,14:17)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 06 2013,00:42)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,09:44)
    Surely you jest, Kerwin.  Does 2B believe that?  How about Abe?  Gene?  Ed J?  Marty?

    BTW, nice try, but the Word WAS MADE flesh.  The word “egeneto” is a VERB, Kerwin.  In your wording, it would mean that someone called the Word actually MADE (ie: created) some flesh.  

    In reality, the Word “BECAME flesh”.


    Mike,

    Are you stating my grammar is wrong because I changed the type of past verb.  It is good grammar according to the test at grammarly.com.

    The wood was made a bat.


    That's funny, Kerwin.  I just pasted your first sentence into that site, and your sentence received a 67 out of 100.  The notes were “weak, needs revision”.


    Mike,

    grammarly.com does not like passive “was made”.  It is in the KJV though.

    The bottom line is that Jesus is the Word made flesh.  

    Quote
    Jesus is the Word made flesh. The Bible is the Word made text

    I obtained that quote third hand from a blog but it is well written.  It is credited to someone that was on the  television.


    K

    if what you say and believe then all the prophets that spoke to men from the received words from God ,can say what you believe ;THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH ;

    BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THIS VIEW IS HOW CAN WORDS EITHER VERBAL OR WRITTEN BECOME FLESH ,FLESH HIS A MATERIAL RELATED TO BOXING IN THE SOUL OF MEN OR ANIMALES ,

    PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME


    T,

    Scripture answers the how with these words.

    Jeremiah 31:33
    King James Version (KJV)

    33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.


    K

    you must not understand what your quoted scripture mean,

    because ;

    Jer 31:33 “This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
    after that time,” declares the LORD.
    “I will put my law in their minds
    and write it on their hearts.
    I will be their God,
    and they will be my people.
    Jer 31:34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
    or a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’
    because they will all know me,
    from the least of them to the greatest,”
    declares the LORD.
    “For I will forgive their wickedness
    and will remember their sins no more.”
    Jer 31:35 This is what the LORD says,

    Ex 34:10 Then the LORD said: “I am making a covenant with you. Before all your people I will do wonders never before done in any nation in all the world.

    DT 6:5 “ You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.

    do you see that the new covenant is of grace ,but what was changed ??? does DT 6;5 is annulled ??? i do not think so ,
    did EX 34;10 changed ??? JN 4:48 So Jesus said to him, “Unless you people see signs and wonders, you simply will not believe.”

    Jn 21:25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

    SO WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS CHANGED ??? ARE ONE OF THOSE JESUS TALK ABOUT IN JN.4;48 ???

    SO THE COVENANT ARE THE LAWS OF GOD;BUT WRITTEN ON THE PERSON INSIDE PART ,THE HEART AND SOUL,

    IN EVERYONE THAT DOES DO THAT ,HE WILL LIVE WITH AND WALK WITH GOD IN TRUTH ,BUT YOUR CLAIM OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE WAY THAT THE WORDS BECOME FLESH ,YOU HAVE MISSED THE TRAIN ,SO TO SPEAK,

    JOHN 1;1-& MENTION A PERSON BY SAYING : Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us;

    Jn 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

    Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’

    SO YOU ARE MISS USING THAT SCRIPTURE PLEASE EXPLAIN IT WITH TRUTH


    T,

    You asked how the Word is made flesh and Jeremiah 31:33 is one place we are taught that.  John 1:14 does not tell the how but only that it was done.

    John 1:30 is one of three viewpoints on the same event that are in the first chapter of John.  1:30 is revealing the human aspect of the Christ who is first among all things in heaven and on earth and so is above all things even though he comes after John the Baptist.

    John 1:10 is speaking of the power and presence of God that united with Jesus of Nazareth.  The power and presence is the light and the life of men.

    #341179
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2013,20:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 07 2013,10:14)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2013,07:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 07 2013,05:20)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2013,04:31)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,14:17)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 06 2013,00:42)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,09:44)
    Surely you jest, Kerwin.  Does 2B believe that?  How about Abe?  Gene?  Ed J?  Marty?

    BTW, nice try, but the Word WAS MADE flesh.  The word “egeneto” is a VERB, Kerwin.  In your wording, it would mean that someone called the Word actually MADE (ie: created) some flesh.  

    In reality, the Word “BECAME flesh”.


    Mike,

    Are you stating my grammar is wrong because I changed the type of past verb.  It is good grammar according to the test at grammarly.com.

    The wood was made a bat.


    That's funny, Kerwin.  I just pasted your first sentence into that site, and your sentence received a 67 out of 100.  The notes were “weak, needs revision”.


    Mike,

    grammarly.com does not like passive “was made”.  It is in the KJV though.

    The bottom line is that Jesus is the Word made flesh.  

    Quote
    Jesus is the Word made flesh. The Bible is the Word made text

    I obtained that quote third hand from a blog but it is well written.  It is credited to someone that was on the  television.


    K

    if what you say and believe then all the prophets that spoke to men from the received words from God ,can say what you believe ;THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH ;

    BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THIS VIEW IS HOW CAN WORDS EITHER VERBAL OR WRITTEN BECOME FLESH ,FLESH HIS A MATERIAL RELATED TO BOXING IN THE SOUL OF MEN OR ANIMALES ,

    PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME


    T,

    Scripture answers the how with these words.

    Jeremiah 31:33
    King James Version (KJV)

    33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.


    K

    you must not understand what your quoted scripture mean,

    because ;

    Jer 31:33 “This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
    after that time,” declares the LORD.
    “I will put my law in their minds
    and write it on their hearts.
    I will be their God,
    and they will be my people.
    Jer 31:34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
    or a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’
    because they will all know me,
    from the least of them to the greatest,”
    declares the LORD.
    “For I will forgive their wickedness
    and will remember their sins no more.”
    Jer 31:35 This is what the LORD says,

    Ex 34:10 Then the LORD said: “I am making a covenant with you. Before all your people I will do wonders never before done in any nation in all the world.

    DT 6:5 “ You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.

    do you see that the new covenant is of grace ,but what was changed ??? does DT 6;5 is annulled ??? i do not think so ,
    did EX 34;10 changed ??? JN 4:48 So Jesus said to him, “Unless you people see signs and wonders, you simply will not believe.”

    Jn 21:25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

    SO WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS CHANGED ??? ARE ONE OF THOSE JESUS TALK ABOUT IN JN.4;48 ???

    SO THE COVENANT ARE THE LAWS OF GOD;BUT WRITTEN ON THE PERSON INSIDE PART ,THE HEART AND SOUL,

    IN EVERYONE THAT DOES DO THAT ,HE WILL LIVE WITH AND WALK WITH GOD IN TRUTH ,BUT YOUR CLAIM OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE WAY THAT THE WORDS BECOME FLESH ,YOU HAVE MISSED THE TRAIN ,SO TO SPEAK,

    JOHN 1;1-& MENTION A PERSON BY SAYING : Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us;

    Jn 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

    Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’

    SO YOU ARE MISS USING THAT SCRIPTURE PLEASE EXPLAIN IT WITH TRUTH


    T,

    You asked how the Word is made flesh and Jeremiah 31:33 is one place we are taught that.  John 1:14 does not tell the how but only that it was done.

    John 1:30 is one of three viewpoints on the same event that are in the first chapter of John.  1:30 is revealing the human aspect of the Christ who is first among all things in heaven and on earth and so is above all things even though he comes after John the Baptist.

    John 1:10 is speaking of the power and presence of God that united with Jesus of Nazareth.  The power and presence is the light and the life of men.


    Kerwin

    Quote
    John 1:10 is speaking of the power and presence of God that united with Jesus of Nazareth. The power and presence is the light and the life of men.

    could you translate your ideas in E
    nglish i mean expanded English

    like in more detail

    #341180
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2013,20:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 07 2013,10:14)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2013,07:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 07 2013,05:20)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 07 2013,04:31)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,14:17)

    Quote (kerwin @ April 06 2013,00:42)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 06 2013,09:44)
    Surely you jest, Kerwin.  Does 2B believe that?  How about Abe?  Gene?  Ed J?  Marty?

    BTW, nice try, but the Word WAS MADE flesh.  The word “egeneto” is a VERB, Kerwin.  In your wording, it would mean that someone called the Word actually MADE (ie: created) some flesh.  

    In reality, the Word “BECAME flesh”.


    Mike,

    Are you stating my grammar is wrong because I changed the type of past verb.  It is good grammar according to the test at grammarly.com.

    The wood was made a bat.


    That's funny, Kerwin.  I just pasted your first sentence into that site, and your sentence received a 67 out of 100.  The notes were “weak, needs revision”.


    Mike,

    grammarly.com does not like passive “was made”.  It is in the KJV though.

    The bottom line is that Jesus is the Word made flesh.  

    Quote
    Jesus is the Word made flesh. The Bible is the Word made text

    I obtained that quote third hand from a blog but it is well written.  It is credited to someone that was on the  television.


    K

    if what you say and believe then all the prophets that spoke to men from the received words from God ,can say what you believe ;THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH ;

    BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THIS VIEW IS HOW CAN WORDS EITHER VERBAL OR WRITTEN BECOME FLESH ,FLESH HIS A MATERIAL RELATED TO BOXING IN THE SOUL OF MEN OR ANIMALES ,

    PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME


    T,

    Scripture answers the how with these words.

    Jeremiah 31:33
    King James Version (KJV)

    33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.


    K

    you must not understand what your quoted scripture mean,

    because ;

    Jer 31:33 “This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
    after that time,” declares the LORD.
    “I will put my law in their minds
    and write it on their hearts.
    I will be their God,
    and they will be my people.
    Jer 31:34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
    or a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’
    because they will all know me,
    from the least of them to the greatest,”
    declares the LORD.
    “For I will forgive their wickedness
    and will remember their sins no more.”
    Jer 31:35 This is what the LORD says,

    Ex 34:10 Then the LORD said: “I am making a covenant with you. Before all your people I will do wonders never before done in any nation in all the world.

    DT 6:5 “ You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.

    do you see that the new covenant is of grace ,but what was changed ??? does DT 6;5 is annulled ??? i do not think so ,
    did EX 34;10 changed ??? JN 4:48 So Jesus said to him, “Unless you people see signs and wonders, you simply will not believe.”

    Jn 21:25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

    SO WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS CHANGED ??? ARE ONE OF THOSE JESUS TALK ABOUT IN JN.4;48 ???

    SO THE COVENANT ARE THE LAWS OF GOD;BUT WRITTEN ON THE PERSON INSIDE PART ,THE HEART AND SOUL,

    IN EVERYONE THAT DOES DO THAT ,HE WILL LIVE WITH AND WALK WITH GOD IN TRUTH ,BUT YOUR CLAIM OF SAYING THAT THIS IS THE WAY THAT THE WORDS BECOME FLESH ,YOU HAVE MISSED THE TRAIN ,SO TO SPEAK,

    JOHN 1;1-& MENTION A PERSON BY SAYING : Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us;

    Jn 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

    Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’

    SO YOU ARE MISS USING THAT SCRIPTURE PLEASE EXPLAIN IT WITH TRUTH


    T,

    You asked how the Word is made flesh and Jeremiah 31:33 is one place we are taught that.  John 1:14 does not tell the how but only that it was done.

    John 1:30 is one of three viewpoints on the same event that are in the first chapter of John.  1:30 is revealing the human aspect of the Christ who is first among all things in heaven and on earth and so is above all things even though he comes after John the Baptist.

    John 1:10 is speaking of the power and presence of God that united with Jesus of Nazareth.  The power and presence is the light and the life of men.


    Kerwin

    I alway liked the way you pick and chose the answers to your likes ,

    as long as you stick to one or two scriptures and that you allow yourself to expand them to your own view ,you are secure ,

    if not why you do not answer all of my questions ???

    y
    our views to be true have to be ALL IN LINE WITHE THE ENTIRE BIBLE ;IF NOT THEY ARE FALSE

    #341190
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Mike……Were and when have i ever posted that there were other Gods, I have alway said there is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD< that means all other (so-called) Gods or little gods are liars, and  I do not ever remember saying any different.

    You try to use scriptures like where Jesus said you are God's (meaning God's “POSSESSIONS”)  as if they themselves were Gods Pure garbage the context if properly understood is showing Possession not a person being a God, But you are desperate to support you false ideologies of Jesus being a “LITTLE” God, when in fact there are no Big God's or Little Gods, except ONE, and he is the God of ALL “SO-CALLED” Gods big or little.  

    Like Paul said as for “US” there is “ONLY” (ONE GOD)> Now it is obvious that does not mean you as you very own word testify .  Trying to jerk the words around by say thing like empathic and non empathic , or literal and non literal , or metaphoric or not to push you false form of religion is futile to me and some other here, no matter how hard you try to distort God very own Word.

    Mike let me ask you a simply “YES” “NO” Question . Did GOD HIMSELF SAYS THERE IS NO OTHER GODS BESIDES HIM, Did he not say HE LOOKED AND FOUND “NONE”? Just answer that with a “YES” or “NO” answer if you CAN>

    It is you who switch from upper case letting and lower case lettering  when shuffling back and forward between your God tha tis you doing it, not me or God the Father or Jesus Christ either. You refuse to believe what God said concerning Himself and about other “so-called” God's . And don't give me this garbage that i agree with you about the word God or “little' gods, .

    I have explained that the original word representing God was drawn in a pictorial language and it is plainly represented as (TWO) things, One a Ox head “power”,  and  a staff “what we lean and “trust in” . And there is ONLY ONE GOD that Fits that. Not any others. That is why i and others here believe on ON ONLY ONE TRUE GOD no matter how much you and your Co-harts try to make other God's to meet you false teachings of other God's .

    BOTTOM LINE IS , I WILL TAKE GOD'S WORD FOR IT , AS EMPATHIC AND LITERAL, NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY TO DISTORT HIS WORDS TO MEET YOU “PREEXISTENT” AND OTHER “GOD'S' , FALSE TEACHINGS.

    NOW IS THE CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU MIKE?

    peace and love to you and your……………………….gene

    #341196
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 08 2013,05:05)
    Mike……Were and when have i ever posted that there were other Gods, I have alway said there is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD< that means all other (so-called) Gods or little gods are liars, and  I do not ever remember saying any different.

    You try to use scriptures like where Jesus said you are God's (meaning God's “POSSESIONS”)  as if they themselves were Gods Pure garbage the context if properly understood is showing Possesion not a person being a God, But you are desporate to support you false idologies of Jesus being a “LITTLE” God, when in fact there are no Big God's or Little Gods, except ONE, and he is the God of ALL “SO-CALLED” Gods big or little.  

    Like Paul said as for “US” there is “ONLY” (ONE GOD)> Now it is obvious that does not mean you as you very own word testify .  Trying to jerk the words around by say thing like empathic and non empathic , or litterial and non literial , or mathyphoric or not to push you false form of religion is futil to me and some other here, no matter how hard you try to destort God very own Word.

    Mike let me ask you a simplt “YES” “NO” Question . Did GOD HIMSELF SAY THER IS NO OTHER GODS BESIDES HIM, Did he not say HE LOOKED AND FOUND “NONE”? Just answer that in with a “YES” or “NO” answer if you CAN>

    It is you who switch from upper case letting and lower case lettering  when shuffeling back and forward between you Gods not me or God the Father or Jesus Chrsit either. You refuse to believe what God said concerning Himself and about other so-called God's . And don;t give me this garbage that i agree with you about the word God or “little' gods, .

    I have explained that the orginal word representing God was drawn in a picturoial language and it is plainly represented as (TWO) things, One a Ox head “power”,  and  a staff “what we lean and “trust in” . And ther is ONLY ONE GOD that Fits that. Not any others. That is why i and others here believe on ON ONLY ONE TRUE GOD no matter how much you and nyour Co-harts try to make other God's to meet you false teachings of other God's .

    BOTTOM LINE IS , I WILL TAKE GOD'S WORD FOR IT , AS EMPATHAIC AND LITTERIAL, NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY TO DESTORT HIS WORDS TO MEET YOU “PREEXISTENT” AND OTHER “GOD'S' FALSE TEACHINGS.

    NOW IS THE CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU MIKE?

    peace and love to you and your……………………….gene


    gene

    you still do not get it ;

    NO ONE DENIES THAT THEIR IS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD ,CREATOR OF ALL THING VISIBLE AND NON VISIBLE ,

    THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE SCRIPTURES DO NOT TALK ABOUT OTHER GODS ,Dt 6:14 Do not follow other gods, the gods of the peoples around you;

    Dt 6:15 for the LORD your God , who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land.

    Dt 6:17 Be sure to keep the commands of the LORD your God..

    IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD OF THE SCRIPTURES ,THE GOD OF CHRIST AND HIS DISCIPLES THE SAME THAN YOUR GOD ??? IF YES ,THEN DO NOT WORSHIP ANY OTHER ,BUT THE OTHER GODS ARE EXISTING AND TRUE GODS ,BUT THEY ARE NOT THE ALMIGHTY GOD OF CREATION ,SO THEY ARE LESSER GODS ,AND SO CAN NOT SAVE US FROM THE ALMIGHTY GOD OF CHRIST

    #341197
    2besee
    Participant

    T and Mike and all, and Abe, Thank you for all of your posts – I did read them, I just have not been able to reply. Perhaps some other time, okay.

    Thanks.

    #341223
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ April 08 2013,05:27)
    T and Mike and all, and Abe, Thank you for all of your posts – I did read them, I just have not been able to reply. Perhaps some other time, okay.

    Thanks.


    2bee

    No need to go, I ad my experience with Devo,before you did, but this is not important ,what is is you constructive mind for your soul ,this is why you can stop going to !the prophecy section ,but learn and exchange truths with others ,you will meet different people everywhere ,but you have to recognize the ones that looking for the truth of God and not their own,

    But yes you can go ,you are a free spirit :)

    #341237
    kerwin
    Participant

    T,

    John 1:10

    We are told the world was made by the light that is in the word. It is the power of Jehovah that made the world.

    We are told that the light is in the world and no one knew him. The presence of Jehovah is what Jehovah's people should know but did not. Think God with us.

    The light is the life of men.

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