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Carmel, there is no “heavens” in Gen 1:1. There is the plural Hebrew word for heaven and the plural Hebrew word for God. Hebrews used what is commonly called the plural of majesty – or plural of intensity. One example is Behemoth in Job. Behemoth is simply the plural Hebrew word for beast. But in Job, God used the plural form to talk about one very majestic beast. Likewise they use the plural of god to talk about great gods like Yahweh (although He is not the only one called by the plural word “elohim”). I assume the plural of heaven in Gen 1:1 is being used the same way – as in a single majestic heaven as opposed to multiple heavens.
Sometimes we can tell if it is multiple beasts/heavens/gods based on the singular verbs and pronouns associated with the statement. Sometimes we just have to decide for ourselves if the plural word in the text is talking about multiple things, or one majestic thing.
If you want “heavens” in Gen 1:1 – have at it. If you want “gods” in Gen 1:1 – go for it. I believe Gen 1:1 teaches that one God created one earth and one heaven. It is of zero consequence to me if you see it differently.
I was merely pointing out for you that just because the word for heaven is plural in 1:1 doesn’t mean it refers to more than one heaven – just like the plural word for God in 1:1 doesn’t mean it refers to more than one God creating the heaven and the earth.
Lol. A vote was cast. Split the topic up into it’s different subjects or leave it as a free for all. The latter was done, so it was renamed to suit.
Some questions miia.
Do you still believe that vegetarians won’t be affected by Corona?
Do you still believe in a flat earth. It look like you were heading that way at one stage. If I remember rightly, your dad believes in that theory.
Do you believe the earth is 6000 years old?
Some questions miia.
Do you still believe that vegetarians won’t be affected by Corona?
Keyword was “severely” effected. I have no idea because the statistics don’t seem to be anywhere. I have not caught covid even though I worked in a school every day. And I am not vac-seen- ated. But that’s just me. WHO knows!?
Do you still believe in a flat earth. It look like you were heading that way at one stage. If I remember rightly, your dad believes in that theory.
My dad still does and I have friends that do. I am not fully convinced either way!
Do you believe the earth is 6000 years old?
Yes absolutely.
Oh but there was this study which showed that plant based diets protected frontline workers against covid significantly! (Just found it).
https://nutrition.bmj.com/content/early/2021/05/18/bmjnph-2021-000272
Cheers Miia.
My son was in contact with two groups where some had the rona recently. He got quite ill days after and lived isolated for a few days. BTW, he never gets ill and is super healthy and fit. First test was a PCR and was negative. But that can happen sometimes, especially if the test is done early. Got a RAT test today and negative again. So wasn’t even the rona after all that. Would have been good if it was as he suffered and got through it. However, we did pray for him and so did many others. Makes me wonder.Miia: Well that went a bit off topic. Sorry I haven’t been here a while.
It sure did! 😂 We’ve been discussing the fact that the Bible and Scientism are in direct and blatant contradiction to each other – and deciding which of them we should trust as the truth.
I’m glad to see that you believe the Bible about the age of the earth. 👍
Proclaimer: First test was a PCR and was negative. But that can happen sometimes, especially if the test is done early. Got a RAT test today and negative again. So wasn’t even the rona after all that. Would have been good if it was as he suffered and got through it.
He did suffer through it. Covid 19 is just a flu. Recently released CDC docs (uncovered by a FOIA request) showed that the PCR test was regulated to the common cold – as they didn’t have an actual sample of the supposed virus that causes Covid (and nobody has EVER been given an actual sample to this day). So the test will be positive if you’ve had a common cold recently – whether or not you are currently ill. And if they crank the amplifications up to 40 cycles like they did in the US when Trump was in office, it’ll show positive by identifying dead fragments of colds that you had when you were 5 years old. (After Biden took office, they started testing at 25 amplifications – like they should have done all along. But hey, 25 amp doesn’t provide tens of millions of false positives like 40 amp does. And it’s hard to shut down a country and enforce unconstitutional tyrannical rules without many millions of people “DYING” from the common cold they were testing for.)
Ah… the dreaded horse paste that was going to kill everyone. The one the CDC warned about, hospitals refused to use, and pharmacists refused to fill – even though prescribed by the patient’s personal doctor.
You know, the one that won its inventor the Nobel Prize in Medicine, and has been used safely and effectively for 55 years by billions of people. They have so much blood on their hands… and we will not forget what they did.
Does this sound familiar, Proclaimer?
Remember me telling you that, just like with antibiotic-resistant bacteria, it is the VAX that would be causing the virus to mutate… not the “touters” who refused to be vaxxed?
Btw miia, this is partly why we shifted gears in this thread and started talking about Biblical earth vs Scientism earth. It’s because all of the “conspiracy theories” we were laying on them in the beginning were being revealed as the truth of the matter, and even the doubters were acknowledging that we were right all along. So since everyone was on the same page… what more was there to say?
The second reason is because there is another Covid 19 thread where people were discussing the same stuff.
And the final reason is because Proclaimer kept equating the “conspiracy theories” we were sharing here about Covid to the “conspiracy theories” I have shared about the Biblical earth. And so finally I said, “Okay… then let’s go ahead and DISCUSS what the Bible says about the earth versus what Scientism says about it.”
And so here we are – giving Proclaimer a lesson on even more “conspiracy theories” that are actually true. 😉
Well who’da thunk it? It was the whistles that were causing all the football heart attacks and deaths this year. Glad that’s solved.
1. PROCLAIMER, IF YOU CREATED A VIRTUAL WORLD, WOULD YOU TELL YOUR VIRTUAL PEOPLE THAT YOU DID SOMETHING IN SIX DAYS AND RESTED ON THE SEVENTH – AND EVEN UNDENIABLY EQUATE THOSE DAYS WITH SIX OF THEIR DAYS BY TELLING THEM TO ALSO WORK SIX DAYS AND REST ON THE SEVENTH – WHEN IN REALITY IT TOOK YOU MANY BILLIONS OF THEIR YEARS TO DO THAT THING YOU SAID YOU DID IN SIX DAYS?
2. PROCLAIMER, SINCE A CURRENT EARTH DAY IN RELATION TO THE SUN LASTS 24 HOURS, IS THERE ANY SCRIPTURAL REASON TO THINK THAT ONCE THE SUN WAS CREATED (OR ALLOWED TO SHINE THROUGH) – IN ORDER TO GOVERN THE DAYS ON EARTH, AND TO SPECIFICALLY SERVE AS A SIGN TO MARK EARTH DAYS – THAT ANY OF THE DAYS FOLLOWING THE APPEARANCE OF THE SUN WOULD BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE SAME 24 HOUR DAYS THAT WE EXPERIENCE NOW?
Miia. ……Good to here from you again, hope everything is going well for you, Missed you.
Peace and love to you and yours Miia………….gene
It sure did! We’ve been discussing the fact that the Bible and Scientism are in direct and blatant contradiction to each other – and deciding which of them we should trust as the truth.
Lol. Spoken like a dodgy politician or cult leader. Give them 2 options despite there being more and putting the bible against science and observation when you only have to do that if you are a literalist.
So Jesus is coming back with a sword in his mouth and science disagrees. Yes, your arguments are like that.
Quick question. Did you hit your head on something solid in the last 5 years or so?
Well who’da thunk it? It was the whistles that were causing all the football heart attacks and deaths this year. Glad that’s solved.
Sergio Aguero got the rona. He was your first example I think. I couldn’t find his vaccination status anywhere.
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