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ADAM….yes it says God made “this” heaven, and “this” earth in six days, But does that limit God from having made other heavens and other earths thousands if not millions of years ago? Our planet is just a speck in the universe.
Mike would have us believe God made everything that exists in just six days , I agree with Proclaimer on this, point , the earth was already here and was covered with water when God’s Spirit hovered over the water , the language supports the idea it already existed, when God said “let the dry land appear was after he gathered the waters. To me it shows more of a reconstruct from what was already in existence, much like he did after he flooded the earth in the days of Noah, he already knew the earth could be covered completely by water, because he had destroyed life on the earth perhaps before who knows how many times. And each time could have been a new “beginning “. The expansion rate of the universe is at a constant rate, and shows the universe existed millions if not billions of years ago.
Another good point Proclaimer brought out, is that our bible is full of “metaphors “. from one end to the other in fact, you can’t even begin to understand what The garden of eve, means without understanding the metaphorical language used there. Like for instance, “the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the metaphor regarding the tree meant, ” that which brings forth from self”. Adam and Eve were warned not to produce from there own self the knowledge of good and evil . Like a tree does, it produces its own life from itself, by its fruit it produces. That’s all Metaphorical language. Our scripture are full of them.
peace and love to you and yours Adam………gene
Hi Mike,
You: Because according to scripture, God created both “day” and “night” on the first “day”.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created heaven, and earth.
2And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God moved over the waters.
3And God said: Be light made. And light was made. 4And God saw the light that it was good; and he divided the light from the darkness. 5And he called the light Day, and the darkness Night; and there was evening and morning one day.
As one can read darkness was not created it just occurred in the rebellion between Genesis 1:1, 1:2. by Lucifer, which according to a revelation I read, it took endless time till Lucifer flooded the world of Genesis 1:1
In Genesis 1:1 there was neither day nor night as God is light and the creation of Genesis 1:1 was created in full light and in full harmony between God and Lucifer the first-ever morning star, the light bringer. Before creation started darkness dominated the entire infinite existence, then the big bang occurred and the entire infinite existence was throughout lit with the endless spirits emanated from God in whose spirits “THE WORD” Jesus the Son of Man to be, was eternally engrafted as eternal life within at all costs, as the only spirit/mediator between God and His creatures, in order to accommodate the Father as the source, to dwell within and communicate with the heavenly realms.
Also, according to this revelation, Genesis 1:2-3 and so on it was not created in a literal six days, though Adam was created in an instant, and it was so written with respect to the maturity of the Jews and it was presented to them in form of pictures, not as it did really occurred!
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
Hereunder is the revelation caption:
The process of creation was not the work of a moment, even though it truly would have been
within My power…. but then creation would have missed its purpose, since it was intended
to ensure a gradual development from the abyss to the pinnacle and therefore continued for
an infinitely long time. Hence you humans should understand that the description in the Scriptures, in the Book of the Fathers, only informs you of this act of creation in a pictorial manner, because people who still lack deeper awareness would be unable to understand the true process, and it is only intended to teach them that creation once came forth from My hand, that it was and is the work of My will and My might….Here is the rest of the revelation:
Anyone who wants to delve deeper will also come to a more profound understanding. At first, it is only necessary to know of a Power That brought everything into existence the human being can see around himself, as well as the creations he is unable to see. Before the far-reaching correlations can be explained to him he has to know about the original beginning of what My strength of love emanated as independent beings…. And he has to know about these beings’ apostasy from Me and the immense original sin with which the beings were then burdened. Only then can the emergence of creation and the process of return through creation be explained to him. But anyone with an unenlightened spirit will hold on to the letter and will never clearly understand it since he is not open to instructions by spiritually enlightened people either. Every work of creation required an infinitely long time of preliminary development which, however, always related to the spiritual substance which should progress within a work of creation…. It had fallen so low that it also needed an endless length of time in order to ascend again within the various kinds of creations…. from the most primitive to the most beautifully formed works brought into existence by My will in order to shelter the spiritual substance and enable its path of ascent…. And therefore the creation work Earth, too, was, in the beginning, a mere cluster of utterly immature spirits whose substances gradually condensed to form a mass which could not yet be described as hard matter but had to be understood as basic elements, without form but with the tremendous effect of strength, for they contained totally uncontrolled spiritual substances. Yet My wisdom distributed everything in the right measure and used every element for My creative work so that separate forms arose which had to comply with their destined purpose; and thus began the slow construction of the visible works of creation which continued for an endless time until the earth started to show vegetation and increasingly more mature spiritual substances were able to occupy those creations to travel the path of higher development in this plant world. Then followed the first living beings…. creations, which could already perform a certain, albeit very small, task imposed on them by natural law. And, again, an infinitely long time of development passed from these minute living beings to the world of animals which included ever larger and stronger forms, in which many spiritual substances had already come together and united in order to keep fulfilling the task of cultivating the earth for the final crowning work of divine creation…. for the human being…. who had to pass through all those preliminary stages and whose soul now is the composition of all those tiny particles which belonged to a once fallen original spirit and which, in a dissolved state, had to go through all works of creation in order to gradually evolve again in this way. Consequently, the human being could not have been created at the time of ‘creating the world’….just as all works of creation have never been My instant work, precisely because the slow advancement had to proceed first or the whole of the creative work would have been meaningless and without purpose, for it did not come into being for My sake but for the sake of My fallen living creations and thus was also meant to fulfill the purpose of leading the fallen spirits back to Me again. And yet, every work of creation was My externalized thought which was always implemented when the spiritual substance had reached a certain degree of maturity and required a new form in order to continue its path of development. And thus different creations arose periodically. The plant world only became necessary when the world of rocks released the spiritual substance which then required a new and lighter form…. And likewise small and minute living creations arose after the creation of the plant world…. And only I knew when one was necessary for the other, and I also knew how much time the larger living creations, the animals up to the Pre-Adamites, would need to mature their embodied soul-substances. Hence I also knew when the time had come that the individual tiny particles of the spiritual being had merged again in order to embody itself as ‘soul’ in the last form. Then I externalized a work of creation again…. the human being, whose external shape is so skillfully created that a maturing to final perfection will be possible. And this creation of the human being also occurred an infinitely long time ago, which you humans cannot establish since your concept of time is still limited, but My work of return has already lasted for an eternity. And although eternities had passed before the appearance of the human being, before the earth with all its works of creation was ready for the human being to take possession of it for the purpose of his final maturing, this point in time is also very remote, because time and again periodical immense upheavals and changes occur on earth which make it impossible to calculate the duration of time since the beginning of earth and of the human being. But this is certain, you humans will only be able to gain a real insight into My eternal plan of Salvation when you have attained the appropriate degree of enlightenment yourselves…. For until then you will be intellectually incapable to envision the length of time for which the concept of ‘eternities’ could be applied…. And for as long as your spirit is still unenlightened it has to be explained to you in an illustrative manner…. Only an awakened spirit will be able to gain deeper insight, yet ultimate wisdom will only become explicable when it enters the kingdom of light where
everything can be revealed because everything will then also be comprehensible….Amen
Hi to all,
Why not believe that in Genesis 1 and 2, God created everything by his power in 6 days of 24 hours and that he rested on the Seventh day.
These texts of Genesis 1 and 2 are FOUNDATION texts AND LEAVE NO PLACE FOR SCIENCE FICTION.Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
[9] Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
[10] But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:👇
[11] For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.God didn’t just create Adam on the sixth day,
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Genesis 1
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
[28] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.
[29] And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
[30] And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
[31] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.add-on to Genesis 1 👉 Genesis 2
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
[8] And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
[9] And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
[10] And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from then it was parted, and became into four heads.
[11] The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
[12] And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
[13] And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasses the whole land of Ethiopia.
[14] And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
[15] And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
[16] And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
[17] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
[18] And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
[19] And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
[20] And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
[21] And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
[22] And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
[23] And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
[24] Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
[25] And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.I forgot some verses from Genesis 1
[24]And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
[25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.Hello Proclaimer, there is nothing to express our egos here as we are all debating on the ancient religious texts.
Good to hear. So if ego is not getting in the way then you can admit that the text says that the heavens and earth were created before the 6 days. Thus, it is possible that the six days that follow, actually follow from that point.
Yes?
Why not believe that in Genesis 1 and 2, God created everything by his power in 6 days of 24 hours and that he rested on the Seventh day.
These texts of Genesis 1 and 2 are FOUNDATION texts AND LEAVE NO PLACE FOR SCIENCE FICTION.Same with you Berean. Can you admit this possibility, or will your ego sway you toward the SDA meaning you are forced to deny it. What possibility? This.
“The text says that the heavens and earth were created before the 6 days. Thus, it is possible that the six days that follow, actually follow from that point.”
Hi guys.
I’m thinking about splitting this topic up. I could branch out the Genesis debate into its own topic. Anyone against doing that and why?
The benefit is that topic will be easier to find and because it will be dedicated to the Genesis account, it will get more views.
Proclaimer
You
The text says that the heavens and earth were created before the 6 days. Thus, it is possible that the six days that follow, actually follow from that point.”
Me
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No
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For in six days
the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.( Exodus 20:11)
Proclaimer my post are not being posted why? Your idea of splitting up the posts is a good idea.
By the way I do agree with your point about the earth already and water already existed before God started this creation, in fact there could have been many beginnings this earth may have went through,
peace and love to you and yours Proclaimer………..gene
Proclaimer: Yet, the sun according to this view was not created till the fourth day. Funny that.
Genesis 1:14-19… And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven… and it was so. God made two great lights… he made the stars also. God set them in the firmament of the heaven… And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
The above passage says that God made (as in they didn’t already exist) the sun, moon, and stars and set them in the firmament of the heaven on the fourth day. You can see that’s what it says, right?
Proclaimer: So you make the argument that God is light.
So how is night created if God is light?
Does he depart earth for 12 hours and return?
I have made no such argument – nor would I – because it’s clear to me from the context of Gen 1:3-5 that the light is something God created, observed, said was good, and separated from the darkness.
Proclaimer: The new earth has no need of a sun for light because God is light, but it doesn’t mean there won’t be a sun…
Isaiah 60:19-21… The sun will no more be your light by day, nor will the brightness of the moon shine on you, for the LORD will be your everlasting light, and your God will be your glory. Your sun will never set again, and your moon will wane no more; the LORD will be your everlasting light, and your days of sorrow will end. Then all your people will be righteous and they will possess the land forever.
Revelation 21:23… And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, because the glory of God illuminates the city, and the Lamb is its lamp.
Revelation 22:5… There will be no more night in the city, and they will have no need for the light of a lamp or of the sun. For the Lord God will shine on them, and they will reign forever and ever.
All of those make it pretty clear that there will be no more sun… but there will be light.
Proclaimer: The thing about error is that it creates ridiculous interpretations to fix and then it causes problems for other points which also require ridiculous interpretations. I am surprised that such glaring issues are ignored by yourself as it just creates a big mess.
This is the kind of nonsensical ad hominem crap I talked about yesterday. The comment doesn’t further the discussion – nor does it argue, in any way whatsoever, against any of the claims I’ve made (or the scriptural teachings that those claims come directly from). If you believe that I’m incorrectly interpreting the teaching that God created the sun, moon and stars on the fourth day, then show us all the correct interpretation so we can evaluate it and discuss it. Simply stating that I’m bad at science or that I’m ridiculously interpreting the scriptures without offering some kind of proof of those claims is bad form, unnecessary, unhelpful to the discussion, and truthfully says a lot more about you than it does me.
Maybe you could just stick to making your case against my arguments, and leave the personal comments about me out of it?
Proclaimer: Like much of the bible, it could be metaphorical. So that morning and evening are the beginning and end of each day and not really about the lighting situation that you are talking about.
I understand that you’re attempting to call historical statements metaphorical with no evidence or valid reason to do so except that the scriptures in question don’t align with your preferred worldview… but I don’t understand what you’re actually saying. What “lighting situation” am I talking about? Are you saying there were evenings and mornings but not daytime (light) and nighttime (darkness)?
Proclaimer: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Hi guys.</span>
<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>I’m thinking about splitting this topic up. I could branch out the Genesis debate into its own topic. Anyone against doing that and why?</span>
<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>The benefit is that topic will be easier to find and because it will be dedicated to the Genesis account, it will get more views.</span>
I am 100% against doing that. This is a good discussion right now. We have quite a few people discussing a number of different ways that Scientism contradicts the Bible. Nor are any of our arguments limited to only Genesis.
It’s perfectly fine just as it is, thanks.
(I’ll be back Saturday to address what I couldn’t get to today.)
Mike: And don’t forget that plants existed on earth BEFORE the sun (and all the stars) was even created! It’s not an error in translation, Proclaimer. It’s an error in your Scientism-based understanding of the world God created for us.
Proclaimer: Yep, a big problem with your interpretation alright. For a start, try placing a plant in complete darkness and see what happens.
Well, here’s the Biblical teaching…
That is the KJV translation. Please point out the error in “interpretation”, or exactly which Hebrew words are translated into English incorrectly.
Like I said, your problem isn’t with Hebrew words being translated incorrectly or the Hebrew teaching being misinterpreted. Your problem is that what the Bible actually teaches is undeniably incompatible with the story you’ve learned from Scientism.
Your bizarre argument seems to be that I somehow have a big problem interpreting the meaning of the Hebrew teaching above because plants can’t dwell in darkness.
First of all, these are literal 24-hour days, and any plant on God’s green earth is capable of surviving a single 24 hour period of darkness if it had to.
Secondly, none of the plants that were created on the third day had to do that anyway. Light, day, and night were all created on the first day, so the plants that were created on the third day were able to enjoy a period of daylight and a period of nighttime – just as plants do today.
You have no problem with the interpretation of the text, Proclaimer. Your problem is that you believe these days were very long periods of time, and therefore you conclude that plants wouldn’t be able to exist for that long without the sun.
Well, the days were literal days, and the light of the first, second, and third days didn’t come from the sun. In short, your problem is with what the Bible actually teaches – because it doesn’t align with the fantasy worldview you’ve come to accept as reality. Isn’t that the real truth here?
Proclaimer: But you don’t have to bother if you consider that Genesis actually says that God created the heavens and the earth and that the earth was formless and void before the days even began.
Gene: By the way I do agree with your point about the earth and water already existed before God started this creation…
Okay, let’s do a comprehension test.
Exodus 20:9-11… Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God… For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day…
Question: Name all of the things that the LORD created in a six day period.
I’ll go first…
1. heaven
2. earth
3. sea
4. all that in them is
Based on my reading of the scripture above, those are the four individually listed things that the LORD made in six days.
Now you guys try. Gene? How many things do you see listed as being made in six days? Proclaimer? Adam? Carmel? Berean? @Lightenup ?
Proclaimer: While you may not understand any of this, suffice to say , you are foolishly suggesting that thousands or millions of lizard people are tricking us to believe the earth is a globe that spins around the sun…
Hilarious Mike. Really funny. I mean if you want to be the butt of the joke, then that is your choice I suppose. But maybe you can’t see it in which case I pity you and anyone who takes teaching from you on this.
I lack understanding? I’m foolish? I suggest there are lizard people? I’m hilarious? I’m the butt of the joke? You pity me?
I think it’s cute how you proclaim your own understanding (and my lack thereof) of the stories of Scientism just because you copy, paste and parrot things they tell you. Do you really believe that means you “understand” these things? And do you really believe that my refusal to believe these stories displays a lack of understanding on my part?
I promise you that I’ve forgotten more about the Scientism stories you claim to understand than you’ve ever learned about them in the first place.
I’ll even offer you another test: Tell us why the big bang, deep time, stellar evolution, planetary evolution, and common descent evolution aren’t even a part of science. (As soon as you indicate that you can’t, I’ll give you the answer, okay?)
In the meantime, I eagerly await your direct and honest answer to the comprehension test in the post above.
I understand that you’re attempting to call historical statements metaphorical with no evidence or valid reason to do so except that the scriptures in question don’t align with your preferred worldview… but I don’t understand what you’re actually saying. What “lighting situation” am I talking about? Are you saying there were evenings and mornings but not daytime (light) and nighttime (darkness)?
Okay. You said this right.
Because according to scripture, God created both “day” and “night” on the first “day”.
Because the first day consisted of one “evening” and one “morning” – just like all subsequent days have done.
And because God was relating this information to humans… for whom He made days in the first place. These humans understood a “day” to be a 24-hour period of “evening” and “morning”, right? So what sense would it make for God to tell humans that He did something in “six days” if He really did it in six “one million year periods” or whatever – knowing full well that they would understand it as six literal 24-hour days?
You also said this:
Also, how would the days being “extended periods of time” work for you anyway? For each “one million year period”, there would be 500 thousand years of constant daylight followed by 500 thousand years of nighttime.
And you also acknowledged somewhere where you stated that the sun was created on the fourth day. So now I understand this might be a lot to balance, but all your statements here are oxymoronic.
So there are 7 x 24 hour periods. The sun is created in the fourth day. So I was simply pointing out then where do the days come from in the first few days when there is no sun and the earth is in darkness? You stated that my view meant millions of years of light then night just to prove your viewpoint. Then you also stated somewhere that God is light and the earth has no need of the sun by quoting Revelation I think where God’s light bathes the new earth, thus this could be how the first few days were formed. That is how I understood your argument at least.
Okay, so why is there morning and evening meaning a 24 hour day with day and night for the first 3 days if there is no sun? You said God. But God is light and there is no darkness in him. So did he disappear for 12 hours on the first few days?
This is one problem you have to contend with among many.
Exodus 20:9-11… Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God… For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day
A number of ways to look at this. And given the creation of the sun in your view taking place on the fourth day, then clearly these first days and probably all the days are not as you think.
The text is teaching us that as we labour in 6 of our days and rest on the 7th, so it is that God created the cosmos in 6 days and rested on the 7th, hence why we have a week in the first place. But clearly his days are not our days in hours because God is not limited to his own creation for a start and not limited to a 24 hour day whether the sun is there or not. This is simply like much of the Bible. A metaphor to let us understand something that God did in 6 periods by using things that we understand which happens to be our day which is dictated by the sun. We already know from scripture that a day to him is not like a day to us and neither is a thousand years to us like a thousand years to him. So how much clearer does one need to be? Thus a morning and evening is really just explaining the beginning of each period and the end of it.
Much of the language of the Bible is obviously metaphorical and I think you missed the boat here Mike and Berean too. As someone once said: “some people are more interested in the way the truth is wrapped than they are in the truth itself”.
What is a ‘metaphor’? It’s a figure of speech where a phrase is applied to something not literally but as resembling something that you have not seen or experienced before. Or it could be something that gives you a deeper impression or understanding of something, but was never meant to be taken literally.
For example, ‘A mighty fortress is our God’. Clearly God is not a literal fortress is he? I think you can understand that. So it wouldn’t take a lot of extra wisdom to determine other verses could well be metaphorical in nature too, especially if the literal interpretation is wrong. So if I take it that God is a literal fortress and then argue for that and say my proof is that it is written in the Bible and you can read it for yourself, then now I think you can understand how you might be coming across to some of us Mike. It really takes just a little wisdom to understand what is going on here. Crafting a conspiracy theory to debunk that God is an actual person in order to argue that he is a fortress instead would be stupid beyond belief right? Yet you do that very thing with other parts of scripture and it results in me saying lol because i am quite honestly lost for words sometimes.
Mike, you really do not need a lot of wisdom to divide a metaphor from an actual account. It can be a bit tricky sometimes i admit, but most of the time it is pretty obvious.
So ask yourself Mike. Is Jesus coming back with a literal sword coming out of his mouth? Yes he is coming back and I believe that is an account. But with a sword coming out of his mouth? No, that is obviously metaphorical.
So Yes or No? A literal sword or not?
If yes, then I cannot help you. You might need some basic education to advance to the stage necessary to divide the word of God correctly. And I may not be the best person to help you with that. If no, then think about why you are dropping your own principle here by not believing what is written according to how you argue for other verses.
And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
I lack understanding?
Yes
I’m foolish?
You do foolish things for sure. But we all do to a degree. I’ll leave it up to God as to whether you are a fool or not. Not for me to say.
I suggest there are lizard people?
That is a popular conspiracy theory among some groups. That shape-shifters live among us and they are the true elites of society. And yes, you sent me a video one time of a man (might have been a president) who had lizard eyes photoshopped in when he blinked. Lol. Remember that? That was truly funny despite you being serious about it.
I’m hilarious?
Yes. Mentioned that in the previous statement.
I’m the butt of the joke?
To be honest. Yes sometimes you are. Flat Earth, Lizard man video. The universe is thousands of years old and the sun was created on the fourth day, so the first 3 days had no sun. None of this BTW, is stated in the Bible, so I laugh at you, not the Bible.
You pity me?
I should. But more so anyone who would listen to your wild ideas.
But I should also state that I think you have some gifts, but science is definitely not one of them. You remind me a bit like a guy who is gifted at some things, but goes onto Xfactor thinking he can also sing because his mom said he was a good singer. And then makes a fool of himself for all to see.
You asked and I answered truthfully.
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