Christians remaining silent

[terraricca]

Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,05:58)

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2012,14:59) T8 Quote Stu will die like all men do. NO STU will die just like the animals = born to be in the chain of live and serve as food to all or almost to all,:D Technically T, it is the circle of life. No matter what god/gods you believe in, doesn't chang the fact that the body is bio- degradable. To some it may be the only thing they ever recycle in life

hi princess

you right ,but the faith in God brings us in another reality and not so for the animals who are stuck in their cycle ,if we can understand dead a
then we can also understand life, and this is the point what makes us better than animals but most live like some ,

but for those that have come to know what lays ahead of dead create that new reality ,what is not dead but life

[princess]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 03 2012,19:41)

Quote (princess @ Nov. 01 2012,23:09) So before you think that you have a firm grasp on your religion I would suggest you take a few course on the matter. Just saying. Now I could continue on and on comparing your god to others, comparing your rituals to others ect. ect, however with the limited knowledge you have about your own religion it would seem senseless. Even so, there are many good books/articles to read on the matter. Enjoy the day! Princess, true religion is within yourself. Anyone can claim to be a Christian, I have seen people do HUGE posts on forums for example, and I won't comment on what i found out when I actually got to know them a bit better. Anyway, truth is something which grows, if you stick to the right path, and we all go off that path now and again, Religion is man made. Faith is within. Quote Enjoy the day! Thanks, you too. take care.

No 2besee, religion is what it is religion. The only truth in religion is what it tells you is the truth. Which some blindly follow along, without any thought or question. That is when it can get a little sticky.

Different paths, today would be a good example, a pastor of a 'independent baptist' church come to the store today, of course I had to ask what the independent meant, I ask, your teachings come mainly from the new testament, no we use all of the bible KJV of course. I ask if he was a monotheist, he said yes, and then explained the trinity to me, that's alright all in the game. Little more blah blah blah, and he said, you seem to know a lot, little bit I told him. He then ask how long have you been practicing?

So the day goes on, a woman comes in she has a wiccan sweatshirt on and has the necklace to match, we begin to talk, ask her about did they change anything in the ritual for the full moon due to 'frankenstorm' she said no, ask her if she does terra, no she is more in the druin readings. Ask her do some people act strange around her, I liked her comment when religious people say they were sent to her and she has to tell them no, your here because I am a nurse. Once again blah blah, then she ask me how long have you been practicing?

Two different paths who is on the wrong one? Both have their rituals, faith and beliefs. The only difference is the deity/deities of their faith? Both if put together there would most likely be some confrontation. Who are we to tell another they have it wrong?

Does it really matter what another carries within themselves, as long as you have peace within your heart.

We are only a small part of the world, but when we come together without prejudice for one another then we may be close to what some call heaven.

Heaven on earth should not be brought by any god, it should be attained by humanity, however with all the blood washing that has occurred throughout history, humanity seems to know no other way.

For ones to stand up and defend their god with hate and deceit in their heart, is of no value. The sadness of it all is that most don't see this themselves.

As is life.

[princess]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,11:11)

Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,05:58) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2012,14:59) T8 Quote Stu will die like all men do. NO STU will die just like the animals = born to be in the chain of live and serve as food to all or almost to all,:D Technically T, it is the circle of life. No matter what god/gods you believe in, doesn't chang the fact that the body is bio- degradable. To some it may be the only thing they ever recycle in life   hi princess you right ,but the faith in God brings us in another reality and not so for the animals who are stuck in their cycle ,if we can understand dead a then we can also understand life, and this is the point what makes us better than animals but most live like some , but for those that have come to know what lays ahead of dead create that new reality ,what is not dead but life

Hello T dear one,

Like the blue lettering your using, color is important in life.

There is a plaque that reads 'The more I get to know people the better I like my dog'.

You are speaking of the afterlife T. Many faiths before christianity had the belief in the afterlife, Egyptians for an easy example. They lived their lives for the afterlife, but christianity today would say they were wrong. All because of a god.

[terraricca]

Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,07:06)

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,11:11) Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,05:58) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2012,14:59) T8 Quote Stu will die like all men do. NO STU will die just like the animals = born to be in the chain of live and serve as food to all or almost to all,:D Technically T, it is the circle of life. No matter what god/gods you believe in, doesn't chang the fact that the body is bio- degradable. To some it may be the only thing they ever recycle in life   hi princess you right ,but the faith in God brings us in another reality and not so for the animals who are stuck in their cycle ,if we can understand dead a then we can also understand life, and this is the point what makes us better than animals but most live like some , but for those that have come to know what lays ahead of dead create that new reality ,what is not dead but life Hello T dear one, Like the blue lettering your using, color is important in life. There is a plaque that reads 'The more I get to know people the better I like my dog'. You are speaking of the afterlife T. Many faiths before christianity had the belief in the afterlife, Egyptians for an easy example. They lived their lives for the afterlife, but christianity today would say they were wrong. All because of a god.

princess

the after liFe that was is existing out side of the promise of Jehovah God almighty IS BY MUCH, DIFFERENT THAN THE AFTER LIFE FROM THE PAGANS,

God MADE IT ACCESSIBLE TO ALL MEN ,WHILE THE PAGAN RITUAL WAS ONLY FOR PRIVILEDGED PERSONNALITY

[TimothyVI]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 03 2012,12:58)

Getting close to meeting thy maker then. Usually wisdom comes with age which is handy given that you are closer to that day.

Hi T8,
Alexander Pope said
“In parts superior what advantage lies?
Tell (for you can) what is it to be wise?
'Tis but to know how little can be known;
To see all others' faults, and feel our own”

Do you see the faults of everyone who doesn't agree with you because you are feeling your own?

I see you and others here turn a blind eye to things that have been scientifically proven to be fact because the bible cautions you to remain ignorant, like a little child.

Not to know is bad, not to wish to know is worse.

Tim

[princess]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,14:06)

Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,07:06) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,11:11) Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,05:58) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2012,14:59) T8 Quote Stu will die like all men do. NO STU will die just like the animals = born to be in the chain of live and serve as food to all or almost to all,:D Technically T, it is the circle of life. No matter what god/gods you believe in, doesn't chang the fact that the body is bio- degradable. To some it may be the only thing they ever recycle in life   hi princess you right ,but the faith in God brings us in another reality and not so for the animals who are stuck in their cycle ,if we can understand dead a then we can also understand life, and this is the point what makes us better than animals but most live like some , but for those that have come to know what lays ahead of dead create that new reality ,what is not dead but life Hello T dear one, Like the blue lettering your using, color is important in life. There is a plaque that reads 'The more I get to know people the better I like my dog'. You are speaking of the afterlife T. Many faiths before christianity had the belief in the afterlife, Egyptians for an easy example. They lived their lives for the afterlife, but christianity today would say they were wrong. All because of a god. princess the after liFe that was is existing out side of the promise of Jehovah God almighty IS BY MUCH, DIFFERENT THAN THE AFTER LIFE FROM THE PAGANS, God MADE IT ACCESSIBLE TO ALL MEN ,WHILE THE PAGAN RITUAL WAS ONLY FOR PRIVILEDGED PERSONNALITY

No T

Egyptians great and small placed huge emphasis on the afterlife. They lived their lives for the afterlife.

Tell me where lies the difference with you. You live your life for the afterlife. The only difference is what god you do it for.

And T, you are aware that when you use captial letters it reflects yelling yes?

[princess]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 04 2012,20:51)

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 03 2012,12:58) Getting close to meeting thy maker then. Usually wisdom comes with age which is handy given that you are closer to that day. Hi T8, Alexander Pope said “In parts superior what advantage lies? Tell (for you can) what is it to be wise? 'Tis but to know how little can be known; To see all others' faults, and feel our own” Do you see the faults of everyone who doesn't agree with you because you are feeling your own? I see you and others here turn a blind eye to things that have been scientifically proven to be fact because the bible cautions you to remain ignorant, like a little child. Not to know is bad, not to wish to know is worse. Tim

Where is that smilies that reflects:  

Really he is 68, sounds too much like a young mind.

One of the best post I have read in a long time. Well done Timothy (love the name by the way) Well done and long needed.

A gentlemen and a scholar. The world needs more like you.

[TimothyVI]

Now you have made me blush Princess.
I can't afford to have all of my blood go to my face.

Tim

[TimothyVI]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 03 2012,13:07)

The biggest problem in the USA is not that people are mostly Christian because Canada would likely have the same stat. It is probably got more to do with differences in racial makeup and tensions as Canada is different to the USA in that point.

Between the US and Canada I think that the population desity plays a bigger role.
The population density of the US is ten times that of Canada.

Get that many Christians shoulder to shoulder and someone is bound to get killed.

Tim

[terraricca]

Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,17:18)

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,14:06) Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,07:06) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,11:11) Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,05:58) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2012,14:59) T8 Quote Stu will die like all men do. NO STU will die just like the animals = born to be in the chain of live and serve as food to all or almost to all,:D Technically T, it is the circle of life. No matter what god/gods you believe in, doesn't chang the fact that the body is bio- degradable. To some it may be the only thing they ever recycle in life   hi princess you right ,but the faith in God brings us in another reality and not so for the animals who are stuck in their cycle ,if we can understand dead a then we can also understand life, and this is the point what makes us better than animals but most live like some , but for those that have come to know what lays ahead of dead create that new reality ,what is not dead but life Hello T dear one, Like the blue lettering your using, color is important in life. There is a plaque that reads 'The more I get to know people the better I like my dog'. You are speaking of the afterlife T. Many faiths before christianity had the belief in the afterlife, Egyptians for an easy example. They lived their lives for the afterlife, but christianity today would say they were wrong. All because of a god. princess the after liFe that was is existing out side of the promise of Jehovah God almighty IS BY MUCH, DIFFERENT THAN THE AFTER LIFE FROM THE PAGANS, God MADE IT ACCESSIBLE TO ALL MEN ,WHILE THE PAGAN RITUAL WAS ONLY FOR PRIVILEDGED PERSONNALITY No T Egyptians great and small placed huge emphasis on the afterlife. They lived their lives for the afterlife. Tell me where lies the difference with you. You live your life for the afterlife. The only difference is what god you do it for. And T, you are aware that when you use captial letters it reflects yelling yes?

princess

sorry ,I use capitals for make my taught more accentuated ,

now ,what you say about the Egyptian his true but it was only for those that as you say that god,but even so their access to mummification would not be the same for all ,so that the after life would also be different ,

while my God has the same after life for all ,the only difference that can be made would be in your own hands ,and is offered to all men disregard to their language ,country,age,believes,…..

[seekingtruth]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 04 2012,17:51)

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 03 2012,12:58) Getting close to meeting thy maker then. Usually wisdom comes with age which is handy given that you are closer to that day. Hi T8, Alexander Pope said “In parts superior what advantage lies? Tell (for you can) what is it to be wise? 'Tis but to know how little can be known; To see all others' faults, and feel our own” Do you see the faults of everyone who doesn't agree with you because you are feeling your own? I see you and others here turn a blind eye to things that have been scientifically proven to be fact because the bible cautions you to remain ignorant, like a little child. Not to know is bad, not to wish to know is worse. Tim

Tim,
I differ on on your take that the Bible tells us “to remain ignorant, like a little child” I believe it tells us to remain innocent and trusting (of our heavenly Father), furthermore scripture encourages us to seek knowledge.

As to “scientifically proven to be fact” is that evolution your speaking of?

Wm

[TimothyVI]

Hi Seekingtruth,
What are you doing down here in the pits of skepticism? It is good to see you. I have always respected your approach to civil conversation.

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And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

In all fairness Jesus did go on to say humble yourself like a child, not become ignorant like a child.
However the bible does teach that ignorance is bliss. Christians should not practice free enquiry nor socialize with non Christians.
Colossians 2:8

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See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

2 John 1:10

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If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into {your} house, and do not give him a greeting.

Romans 16:17

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Shun those who disagree with your religious views.

Don’t associate with non-Christians. Don’t receive them into your house or even exchange greeting with them.
Corinthians 4:6

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Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, “Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.

In other words, don't learn anything that does not come out of the bible, and the bible has some pretty silly knowledge to share. We as humans are fortunate that we do not still believe that illness is caused by demons, so we have invented antibiotics.
Lepers are fortunate that we do not still cure leprosy by putting a doves blood on the right ear and big toe of the person afflicted with the disease, as the bible tells us to. We would still be in the dark ages scientifically if we heeded Cor.4:6.
Tim

[princess]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2012,02:30)

Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,17:18) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,14:06) Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,07:06) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,11:11) Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,05:58) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2012,14:59) T8 Quote Stu will die like all men do. NO STU will die just like the animals = born to be in the chain of live and serve as food to all or almost to all,:D Technically T, it is the circle of life. No matter what god/gods you believe in, doesn't chang the fact that the body is bio- degradable. To some it may be the only thing they ever recycle in life   hi princess you right ,but the faith in God brings us in another reality and not so for the animals who are stuck in their cycle ,if we can understand dead a then we can also understand life, and this is the point what makes us better than animals but most live like some , but for those that have come to know what lays ahead of dead create that new reality ,what is not dead but life Hello T dear one, Like the blue lettering your using, color is important in life. There is a plaque that reads 'The more I get to know people the better I like my dog'. You are speaking of the afterlife T. Many faiths before christianity had the belief in the afterlife, Egyptians for an easy example. They lived their lives for the afterlife, but christianity today would say they were wrong. All because of a god. princess the after liFe that was is existing out side of the promise of Jehovah God almighty IS BY MUCH, DIFFERENT THAN THE AFTER LIFE FROM THE PAGANS, God MADE IT ACCESSIBLE TO ALL MEN ,WHILE THE PAGAN RITUAL WAS ONLY FOR PRIVILEDGED PERSONNALITY No T Egyptians great and small placed huge emphasis on the afterlife. They lived their lives for the afterlife. Tell me where lies the difference with you. You live your life for the afterlife. The only difference is what god you do it for. And T, you are aware that when you use captial letters it reflects yelling yes? princess sorry ,I use capitals for make my taught more accentuated , now ,what you say about the Egyptian his true but it was only for those that as you say that god,but even so their access to mummification would not be the same for all ,so that the after life would also be different , while my God has the same after life for all ,the only difference that can be made would be in your own hands ,and is offered to all men disregard to their language ,country,age,believes,…..

T, you are speaking of rituals. Rituals are found in every religion there is not one that rids themselves of such, some have a bit more then others but they are still there.

Your correct your God asks for your life and to serve him accordingly and by his rules.

I am in no way deterring you to believe in the god that you do, tis your own. Each find peace in their own way. However, this is a thought that you must produce on your own, what would your life be like if you released god?

Would you fear that you would become evil? Would you murder, lie and steal?

Just a question T.

[2besee]

Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,13:50)

No 2besee, religion is what it is religion. The only truth in religion is what it tells you is the truth. Which some blindly follow along, without any thought or question. That is when it can get a little sticky. Different paths, today would be a good example, a pastor of a 'independent baptist' church come to the store today, of course I had to ask what the independent meant, I ask, your teachings come mainly from the new testament, no we use all of the bible KJV of course.  I ask if he was a monotheist, he said yes, and then explained the trinity to me, that's alright all in the game. Little more blah blah blah, and he said, you seem to know a lot, little bit I told him. He then ask how long have you been practicing? So the day goes on, a woman comes in she has a wiccan sweatshirt on and has the necklace to match, we begin to talk, ask her about did they change anything in the ritual for the full moon due to 'frankenstorm' she said no, ask her if she does terra, no she is more in the druin readings. Ask her do some people act strange around her, I liked her comment when religious people say they were sent to her and she has to tell them no, your here because I am a nurse. Once again blah blah, then she ask me how long have you been practicing? Two different paths who is on the wrong one? Both have their rituals, faith and beliefs. The only difference is the deity/deities of their faith? Both if put together there would most likely be some confrontation. Who are we to tell another they have it wrong? Does it really matter what another carries within themselves, as long as you have peace within your heart. We are only a small part of the world, but when we come together without prejudice for one another then we may be close to what some call heaven. Heaven on earth should not be brought by any god, it should be attained by humanity, however with all the blood washing that has occurred throughout history, humanity seems to know no other way. For ones to stand up and defend their god with hate and deceit in their heart, is of no value. The sadness of it all is that most don't see this themselves. As is life.

Princess,

There are many paths that we can go down but there is only one true path. while walking along that one true path, many things can come along and attempt to trip us up or take us off of that path. If we are not wise to what is happening, then we can be taken so far off the track that it is almost impossible to get back on it, but with God all things are possible.

Many people are on another path yes, even in the name of Jesus. MANY are on it, but it is not the true path.  

Once we see what happened, we then realize that we can proceed because things are not always as they seem, even Satan can appear as an Angel of light.

And then we see that – in answer to your question regarding there being many beliefs – yes there are many many different people in the world, who were raised in differing beliefs and religions. All we can do is tell them what we know, in the best way that we can.

There are many people who would never have heard about the path. God has made allowance for that. There is what is called the white throne judgment, people are it seems judged on what they have done, as the judgment of every individual goes right back to the beginning when Jesus had not come in the flesh, and the other nations did not know God, and so they are judged on what they did.

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2012,02:30) Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,17:18) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,14:06) Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,07:06) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,11:11) Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,05:58) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2012,14:59) T8 Quote Stu will die like all men do. NO STU will die just like the animals = born to be in the chain of live and serve as food to all or almost to all,:D Technically T, it is the circle of life. No matter what god/gods you believe in, doesn't chang the fact that the body is bio- degradable. To some it may be the only thing they ever recycle in life   hi princess you right ,but the faith in God brings us in another reality and not so for the animals who are stuck in their cycle ,if we can understand dead a then we can also understand life, and this is the point what makes us better than animals but most live like some , but for those that have come to know what lays ahead of dead create that new reality ,what is not dead but life Hello T dear one, Like the blue lettering your using, color is important in life. There is a plaque that reads 'The more I get to know people the better I like my dog'. You are speaking of the afterlife T. Many faiths before christianity had the belief in the afterlife, Egyptians for an easy example. They lived their lives for the afterlife, but christianity today would say they were wrong. All because of a god. princess the after liFe that was is existing out side of the promise of Jehovah God almighty IS BY MUCH, DIFFERENT THAN THE AFTER LIFE FROM THE PAGANS, God MADE IT ACCESSIBLE TO ALL MEN ,WHILE THE PAGAN RITUAL WAS ONLY FOR PRIVILEDGED PERSONNALITY No T Egyptians great and small placed huge emphasis on the afterlife. They lived their lives for the afterlife. Tell me where lies the difference with you. You live your life for the afterlife. The only difference is what god you do it for. And T, you are aware that when you use captial letters it reflects yelling yes? princess sorry ,I use capitals for make my taught more accentuated , now ,what you say about the Egyptian his true but it was only for those that as you say that god,but even so their access to mummification would not be the same for all ,so that the after life would also be different , while my God has the same after life for all ,the only difference that can be made would be in your own hands ,and is offered to all men disregard to their language ,country,age,believes,….. T, you are speaking of rituals. Rituals are found in every religion there is not one that rids themselves of such, some have a bit more then others but they are still there. Your correct your God asks for your life and to serve him accordingly and by his rules. I am in no way deterring you to believe in the god that you do, tis your own. Each find peace in their own way. However, this is a thought that you must produce on your own, what would your life be like if you released god? Would you fear that you would become evil? Would you murder, lie and steal? Just a question T.

princess

if you do not have true rules ,what would stop you of doing anything like you say

I have been living on the streets for two years when I was a teenager,and was without a father sinse my 8th birth day ,I have learn many things in human behavior and habilities ,

this made me think about Gods rules and the why attached to both MEN'S AND GOD'S RULES

[2besee]

Terraricca, some of your posts make me smile. (I mean in a good way).

[terraricca]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2012,02:02)

Terraricca, some of your posts make me smile. (I mean in a good way).

[princess]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2012,06:56)

Quote (princess @ Nov. 05 2012,01:18) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2012,02:30) Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,17:18) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,14:06) Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,07:06) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,11:11) Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,05:58) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2012,14:59) T8 Quote Stu will die like all men do. NO STU will die just like the animals = born to be in the chain of live and serve as food to all or almost to all,:D Technically T, it is the circle of life. No matter what god/gods you believe in, doesn't chang the fact that the body is bio- degradable. To some it may be the only thing they ever recycle in life   hi princess you right ,but the faith in God brings us in another reality and not so for the animals who are stuck in their cycle ,if we can understand dead a then we can also understand life, and this is the point what makes us better than animals but most live like some , but for those that have come to know what lays ahead of dead create that new reality ,what is not dead but life Hello T dear one, Like the blue lettering your using, color is important in life. There is a plaque that reads 'The more I get to know people the better I like my dog'. You are speaking of the afterlife T. Many faiths before christianity had the belief in the afterlife, Egyptians for an easy example. They lived their lives for the afterlife, but christianity today would say they were wrong. All because of a god. princess the after liFe that was is existing out side of the promise of Jehovah God almighty IS BY MUCH, DIFFERENT THAN THE AFTER LIFE FROM THE PAGANS, God MADE IT ACCESSIBLE TO ALL MEN ,WHILE THE PAGAN RITUAL WAS ONLY FOR PRIVILEDGED PERSONNALITY No T Egyptians great and small placed huge emphasis on the afterlife. They lived their lives for the afterlife. Tell me where lies the difference with you. You live your life for the afterlife. The only difference is what god you do it for. And T, you are aware that when you use captial letters it reflects yelling yes? princess sorry ,I use capitals for make my taught more accentuated , now ,what you say about the Egyptian his true but it was only for those that as you say that god,but even so their access to mummification would not be the same for all ,so that the after life would also be different , while my God has the same after life for all ,the only difference that can be made would be in your own hands ,and is offered to all men disregard to their language ,country,age,believes,….. T, you are speaking of rituals. Rituals are found in every religion there is not one that rids themselves of such, some have a bit more then others but they are still there. Your correct your God asks for your life and to serve him accordingly and by his rules. I am in no way deterring you to believe in the god that you do, tis your own. Each find peace in their own way. However, this is a thought that you must produce on your own, what would your life be like if you released god? Would you fear that you would become evil? Would you murder, lie and steal? Just a question T. princess if you do not have true rules ,what would stop you of doing anything like you say I have been living on the streets for two years when I was a teenager,and was without a father sinse my 8th birth day ,I have learn many things in human behavior and habilities , this made me think about Gods rules and the why attached to both MEN'S AND GOD'S RULES

Actually T, morals and values may have something to do with it.

We each have our own story. My father was a drunkard, my mother left our family when I was 5. It was either flight or flee growing up, I did a little of both. So I am capable of understanding what humanity does to another.

Most basic rules of religion are to be peaceful, take care of each other and cause no harm, throughout our evolution or trail and error such rules come into play.

You still did not answer my question though, for you to release god would it change who you are today?

[princess]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 05 2012,06:44)

Quote (princess @ Nov. 04 2012,13:50) No 2besee, religion is what it is religion. The only truth in religion is what it tells you is the truth. Which some blindly follow along, without any thought or question. That is when it can get a little sticky. Different paths, today would be a good example, a pastor of a 'independent baptist' church come to the store today, of course I had to ask what the independent meant, I ask, your teachings come mainly from the new testament, no we use all of the bible KJV of course.  I ask if he was a monotheist, he said yes, and then explained the trinity to me, that's alright all in the game. Little more blah blah blah, and he said, you seem to know a lot, little bit I told him. He then ask how long have you been practicing? So the day goes on, a woman comes in she has a wiccan sweatshirt on and has the necklace to match, we begin to talk, ask her about did they change anything in the ritual for the full moon due to 'frankenstorm' she said no, ask her if she does terra, no she is more in the druin readings. Ask her do some people act strange around her, I liked her comment when religious people say they were sent to her and she has to tell them no, your here because I am a nurse. Once again blah blah, then she ask me how long have you been practicing? Two different paths who is on the wrong one? Both have their rituals, faith and beliefs. The only difference is the deity/deities of their faith? Both if put together there would most likely be some confrontation. Who are we to tell another they have it wrong? Does it really matter what another carries within themselves, as long as you have peace within your heart. We are only a small part of the world, but when we come together without prejudice for one another then we may be close to what some call heaven. Heaven on earth should not be brought by any god, it should be attained by humanity, however with all the blood washing that has occurred throughout history, humanity seems to know no other way. For ones to stand up and defend their god with hate and deceit in their heart, is of no value. The sadness of it all is that most don't see this themselves. As is life. Princess, There are many paths that we can go down but there is only one true path. while walking along that one true path, many things can come along and attempt to trip us up or take us off of that path. If we are not wise to what is happening, then we can be taken so far off the track that it is almost impossible to get back on it, but with God all things are possible. Many people are on another path yes, even in the name of Jesus. MANY are on it, but it is not the true path.   Once we see what happened, we then realize that we can proceed because things are not always as they seem, even Satan can appear as an Angel of light. And then we see that – in answer to your question regarding there being many beliefs – yes there are many many different people in the world, who were raised in differing beliefs and religions. All we can do is tell them what we know, in the best way that we can. There are many people who would never have heard about the path. God has made allowance for that. There is what is called the white throne judgment, people are it seems judged on what they have done, as the judgment of every individual goes right back to the beginning when Jesus had not come in the flesh, and the other nations did not know God, and so they are judged on what they did.

I appreciate the Sunday School lesson, however 2besee I once practiced christianity so I am a bit familiar with the faith.

Even so, when one adds god and jesus in the same, I can't help but ask will the real god please stand up.

You speak of 'we' may I ask whom are you referring to?

About this beginning judgment, another question comes to mind, since god had a beginning to mankind why is this god considered eternal and can give eternal life. For something to be eternal there is no end or beginning, it just is. Did god get bored just hanging out and decide to take on a hobby?

Judgment is done in ones own mind, there is nothing more then ones own to deal with, no god is really needed. The battle has always been mind and spirit. God just gets thrown in there for good measure when one cannot handle it.

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Quote (TimothyVI @ Nov. 04 2012,23:38)

Now you have made me blush Princess. I can't afford to have all of my blood go to my face.   Tim

Your too much!

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