1 Timothy 6:13-16

Hi David,
The scripture we are addressing
says just that.

So does God possess immortality as well?
That is two.

Yes Nick. That is two. So what we have here, based on your observation of “two” indicates that not everyone is being addressed here.
It is comparing Jesus to the human rulers, and of that group, only Jesus possesses immortality.
Since as I've explained previously, Jesus is immortal and so is God, you can not do as you do and include everyone in this scripture.
The context itself hints that Jesus is being compared to others who are also rulers. Yet, the difference is Jesus is immortal.

You have admitted that Jesus has been given immortality (yet you assert he doesn't possess somethng he was given) and that God is also immortal so your understanding of this is contradictory.

“Nick, there are many who have posted quite a bit, thousands of posts. Yet, you are king of posters, post master. And you alone are named Nick.”

Does this mean you're the only person in the universe named Nick? Or based on the context, am I referring to a specific group here, perhaps the group of people who post on this forum? And that, of that group, you are the only one named nick.

Hi David,
You say of 1Tim 6
“It is comparing Jesus to the human rulers, and of that group, only Jesus possesses immortality.”

1Tim6

“11But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

12Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

13I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;

14That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

15Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

16Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. “

Are you not putting the verse within a context that is simply not there?
Why not leave it as is and let it be read
as written?

No, I am not. Let's look at the words:

only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Who only hath immortality

He is the “only” potentate, above other kings, above other lords, he alone having immortality.

Is this not what it says?

So how am I taking anything out of context?

Hi David,
Is God not a greater KING?

2 Chronicles 20:6
And said, O LORD God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee?
Psalm 74:12
For God is my King of old, working salvation in the midst of the earth.
Psalm 84:3
Yea, the sparrow hath found an house, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young, even thine altars, O LORD of hosts, my King, and my God.
Psalm 95:3
For the LORD is a great God, and a great King above all gods.
Psalm 145:1
I will extol thee, my God, O king; and I will bless thy name for ever and ever.
Isaiah 44:6
Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Jeremiah 10:10
But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.

King of kings is applied to Jesus in Rev 17 and 19 but it also is a term applied in the bible to men

Ezra 7:12
Artaxerxes, king of kings, unto Ezra the priest, a scribe of the law of the God of heaven, perfect peace, and at such a time.

The kingdom of heaven is ultimately under our God. Christ was given the kingdom but his rule is given back to God when all is put to rights.[1Cor15] Christ too submits to the lordship of his God.

Yes Nick, this has been my whole point. We cannot include God in the group that we are looking at. Otherwise, he and Jesus would both fit (both of them at least being immortal.)

So, therefore, logically, we are speaking of a specific group (that doesn't include everyone) as I mentioned previously.

Ladies and Gentlemen and the Press;

I propose to you this day a marvellous truth. When Jesus Christ was made our high priest he was given eternality by divine decree. But again, he was made our high priest with certain definite characteristics. What are they? Without beginning of days, without end of life, without father, and without mother. Christ has a Father, how could Paul say without Father. In reference to Christ Priesthood he is eternal because he represents us before God who is eternal. All sin from the beginning of the world is expunged by the sacrifice of our high priest. The forgiveness not only applies to us who came after Christ but to all who have followed God before Christ. Therefore, his priesthood extends from the beginning to the end, and evermore. It is an eternal priesthood.

I can well understand people throwing out the trinity doctrine because, as it is taught in Catholocism, it is false. While it is true that God is three, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the are not co-equal.

The Father has ultimate authority, which has been given to Jesus Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, All authority is given to Me in Heaven and in earth.

Jesus, by His own confession, is subject to the Father, as is the Holy Spirit.

Hi KJ:

This is very good and very true. Although Jesus is now immortal, he did die.

Thanks for bringing us these scriptures revealing this very important truth.

God Bless

Thanks for that kejonn. So many here want to brand me as a trinitarian because of the beliefs I hold, but I am far from their concept of a trinitarian. I'm not sure if I like the fact that you've found a box to put me in lol, I don't care what it's called. I just love my God with all my heart and relish the life I have with Him.