Proclaimer:  Chop chop. Bring back the sun.

Mike: Already done… twice on video.  Your turn now…

No Mike. Bring it back after it is set and without going to a higher altitude to do it.

Zooming in to increase the visual space below the sun is deception if you are trying to pass that off as bring the sun back after it is set.

You have the camer…[Read more]

What are these waters above the sun, moon, and stars that God allowed to flood the earth in your model?

Bahahaha!

The water came past the sun  moon  and stars, to good the earth. Lol. What can I say. I’m lost for words.

Science 101.

Water exists in at least 3 states.

Liquid, solid, gas.

End of story.

It is the same water in the sea, lakes, and rivers that forms clouds and icebergs, snow, rain, etc.

Google ‘the water cycle’.

Facts.

Hi Mike,

I recall you saying that you can mostly only post on weekends, which I totally understand, no worries!

First let me say that just because God is able to do something doesn’t mean that He did and the scriptures tell me that He most certainly didn’t.

It’s not just a non human state, you are comparing a belief of a living entity, an…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

 You: I said, ” Jesus was to be glorified with his flesh not seeing decay,(a)

with him being resurrected receiving the PROMISED Holy Spirit (b) and

entering the kingdom of God being exalted as the PROMISED Son of Man that would go and sit at God’s right hand.”(c)

Me: Jodi, correct me, please!

According to your statement above,…[Read more]

You’re right, Danny. In fact, I walked away from this thread about 3 years ago, even stopped talking to him all together for two years for that very reason.

But then when he started talking about how vaccinations and tyrannical martial law rules for a flu with a 99.9% survivability rate were a good thing, I could no longer remain silent.

And…[Read more]

@mikeboll64

Hi Mike,

Don’t waste your time and energy on Proclaimer.
It’s no use debating with a deceiver.

Gene, clouds are NOT water, as you yourself made clear by stipulating BETWEEN water, ice, and steam/vapor.

Just like a ribeye steak is NOT a cow.

But more importantly, why don’t you address the main point that I keep screaming at you guys?  The waters above are ABOVE the sun, moon, and stars.

Are clouds ABOVE the sun, moon, and stars? No?  W…[Read more]

Mike…….Water can appear in three forms…..

1…..Solid……  like a ice cube, frozen lake, snow ect. 

2….liquid……. like our oceans, lakes,  streams,  rain showers , floods ect.

3….gas or vapor……….like steam,  and our clouds in the heavens / sky,  and even on earth as fog. 

All of these are the forms water can exist in, co…[Read more]

Hi to all

Daily Devotional

DEFEATING DECEIT 

Among Americans polled about honesty, 52 percent said lying is never justified; yet 65 percent said it was sometimes okay to lie to keep from hurting someone’s feelings. Twelve percent of adults admit that they lie sometimes or occasionally. However, when asked, “Are you a liar?” 97 percent said “…[Read more]

Hi Jodi. My point was not whether it would be common to say that these 100% human sons of Abraham pre-existed as stones. My point, which you have reinforced with your comments about Adam and chromosomes, was that God can create a human being out of stuff that already exists in a non-human state.

God can therefore create a 100% human being out of…[Read more]

Proclaimer: Clouds are water.

No they aren’t. God gathered the waters below into seas. Seas are water, clouds are not. Did anyone ever ask you to give them a drink of water and you handed them an icicle or shot some steam at them?

Proclaimer:  And yet God exists in heaven / raqia. So the waters are above God? Your understanding is obviously…

[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Slander is defined as a lie that hurts a person’s reputation. I’m telling the truth.

I already gave you the perfect solution to prove that you are telling the truth… Quote my statement that was intentionally designed to deceive Berean into believing something that I know is a lie.

Proclaimer:  Chop chop. Bring back the sun.<…

[Read more]

Yes, I know.  You have repeated your answer “clouds” multiple times.  That answer was thoroughly debunked by common sense and the scriptures, seeing that clouds are not “waters”,

Clouds are water. Everyone knows that. They are part of the water cycle. Ice is water. Clouds and steam are water. And water exists in liquid form. Basic stuff Mike. Sci…[Read more]

This map makes way more sense to me in NZ if the earth was flat. That makes the arctic the ice wall.

But it gets the northern hemisphere severely wrong. The UN stolen flat earth map makes the same error as this map, but for the southern hemisphere. Let me think about this.

What if the earth was a globe. That would get both hemisphere…[Read more]

Slander is defined as a lie that hurts a person’s reputation. I’m telling the truth. Deal with it. Truth is reality. Wake up! Chop chop. Bring back the sun.

I saw that too.  I haven’t forgotten about you.  I’ve been looking forward to this for a very long time.  I will respond soon.  🙂

Danny: @t8

Proclaimer, you said to Berean: “Mike is trying to deceive you…”

Mike said:
“That right there is a very deceptive statement…”

I totally agree with Mike.

Thanks Danny.  Tater knows exactly what he’s doing.  He’s scared, he knows he already lost the debate, and he’s trying his best to obfuscate with ad hominems.
When the debate has bee…[Read more]

Mike:  <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>As it stands by default, your answer is as follows:  “There is NOTHING in the heliocentric model that can even come close to being even very liberally construed as ‘waters above the sun, moon and stars’.   You are correct that the model to which I subscribe is NOT compatible with the world the Bible describes.…

[Read more]

Mike:  Wait… are you saying that if the light source moves behind the cloud/haze layer that you can clearly see in your photo (or even behind a mountain or some other tangible obstruction) we should still be able to see the reflections from that light source on the water?

 

Proclaimer:  Nope.

Well then, it seems as if I HAVE addressed the poi…[Read more]