Hi DesireTruth,

Thanks for joining this thread!

Does seem like some clarification is in order.

Hebrew word “ra”

bad, evil
bad, disagreeable, malignant
bad, unpleasant, evil (giving pain, unhappiness, misery)
evil, displeasing
bad (of its kind – land, water, etc)
bad (of value)
worse than, worst (comparison)
sad, unhappy
evil (hurtful)
bad,…[Read more]

Hi Danny,

Thanks for your reply and looking at the content of Daniel more closely.

You say that doesn’t mean he  was a “good accuser”, but scripture doesn’t show that he was a wicked rebel spirit entity against God either. On the contrary, he was able to be in the presence of God, he asked God for permission and he followed God’s instructions.…[Read more]

@Jodi,

This is intriguing, you describe the angels as being under God’s control and doing HIS commands; in some cases, “creating evil.” If “evil” is from the hand of God, this would mean the “evil” we see and experience originates from God, by/through HIS angels. Am I understanding you correctly?

Is “sin” the “evil” God is speaking of in Isaiah…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: Hi Carmel,

You: ONLY JESUS RECEIVED ALL THE ABOVE BY THE POWER OF THE SPIRIT WITHOUT MEASURE, BUT NOT INCESSANTLY POSSESSED!

ME: There exists no scriptural support for what you have stated what so ever. You continually add into scripture what is not there and turn the bible into a book of nonsense.

As said before there exists n…[Read more]

@Jodi

Rev.12 : 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, 👉which deceiveth the whole world:👈 he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

🤔

Hi Jodi,

I want to make a comment about the Book of Job.
Even if Satan was right about Job, that doesn’t mean
that Satan was a good accuser.
Anyway, Job did repent and that is the main thing.
Job did not turn his back on God forever.
So after all Satan did loose and that’s the beautiful
end of the Book of Job.
The accuser of our brethren never…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

YOU: Hey Jodi
Who tempted Eve in the Garden of Eden?

ME: I believe scripture throughout the bible gives us the understanding that the serpent in Genesis 3 is an allegory, there was no literal serpent in the garden. 

Genesis 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for…[Read more]

Hi Danny,

John 6:69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God. 70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil (diabolos/slanderer) 71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

John 8:44 Ye are of your father…[Read more]

@ All

Matthew 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Jodi

You

Berean, what do you think of regarding the people of the World Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab? They want a one world government, they want people living in 15 minute cities where they can be happy owning nothing, hopped up on drugs and getting pleasure through virtual reality. They have been on a path to destroy the nuclear family,…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

the old serpent, the slanderer/deceiver, the adversary.

the CARNAL MIND is at enmity against God, it is not subject to the law or indeed can be. What are the works of the flesh, what do people do following after the imagination of their own hearts?

Eph 2:3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulf…[Read more]

Rev.20
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and👉 Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

You provided passages from 1 John 3 and John 8 that contain the word “devil”.

As provided a number of times now,

DEVIL = DIAOBOS

=SLANDERER/false accuser/liar/DECEIVER

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there…[Read more]

Jodi…..exactly right, the devils are human beings following their own lust working in them.  John said…….>“For “all” that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, the pride of life, are from the world, and the world is passing away and the lust with it.”

peace and love to you and yours………gene

The History of the Ottoman Empire – 1299 – 1922
This is the empire that conquered the eastern leg of Rome. It was a huge empire that lasted for centuries.

Good Morning Gene,

Excellent point that it was Cain who was a murder and a liar from the beginning. Looks like this post was from Berean actually, though Danny would have likely brought up these passages as well.

I find it fascinating that Berean highlighted “when he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of…[Read more]

Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.

👉When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of…[Read more]

@ Jodi

He that committeth sin is👉 of the devil; 👈 for  👉the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

1 John 3:8

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
In this the…[Read more]

Hi Danny,

Thanks for your reply keeping the discussion going.

Maybe I have missed it, I am not aware to what your understanding is exactly regarding unclean spirits interchangeably in scripture called devils?

I am not at all in error and let me provide some clarification and further scriptural support along with common sense. 

Mark 9:17 And…[Read more]