@Gene

You Say: So tell us what was the Faith of Jesus, was it in himself or in God the Father.

Me

Why in himself ?

In the Father resolutely by the power of the holy Spirit of God. His faith is an example for us all.
Gene, what you definitely don’t see is that Jesus, although he is God in the nature of God the Father,
took on our human nature …[Read more]

Berean you said………”The TRUE Israël IS those “they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.(Rev.14:12)” ,

So tell us what was the Faith of Jesus, was it in himself or in God the Father.  If we have the Faith of Jesus then that Faith will be in “God the Father , just as his Faith was.

That is not to say we don’t believe in…[Read more]

DT……So what do you do with where it says in Daniel that the Messiah would be cut off in the midst of the week?  Please explain that scripture to us.  AND WHAT ABOUT THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAY God would not leave his soul in hell to see corruption ?  How do you get around those scriptures, not to mention what Isaiah said about God having put on him th…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: where does it say that the “Messiah” would do all his work at his “FIRST” APPEARANCE

Me: When did God say the Messiah was to come twice? Where in the Tanakh did God say the Messiah was to show up, not do anything HE said, but will the second time? To claim I’m “adding to the text” is false; I’m adding nothing to anything, but reading…[Read more]

@Jodi

Stop getting excited with your big speeches that prove nothing.
You can NEVER CONTRARY THAT JESUS, THE SON OF GOD, WAS WITH THE FATHER IN THE BEGINNING AND THAT HE WAS GOD, AND THAT HE WAS MADE FLESH.
IT’S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

Hi Berean,

Thanks for proving my point to Danny, where you COMPLETELY IGNORE clear scriptures and then go about interpreting other passages WITHOUT them!

Let’s first acknowledge that you completely ignore the context given, the fact that Paul is telling folks that they need to be like minded with “Christ”.  You ignore the passages where Jesus…[Read more]

Hi Danny and All,

YOU:

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
Who dwelt among us?
Jesus Christ!

ME:

Yes indeed, Jesus Christ dwelt among the people, having been sent by God out into the world upon the Spirit of God having come to abode in him.

Verse 14 of John speaks exactly to my position.

The Word is the WORD of God…[Read more]

@DT

The TRUE Israël IS those “they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.(Rev.14:12)

Rom.9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

Rom.2:28] For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a…[Read more]

DT…….where does it say that the “Messiah” would do all his work at his “FIRST” APPEARANCE, that is you adding to the text, it simply say that he will perform those things , and he will at his return, which is soon to come.  You’re putting your own times of complete accomplishments,  when scripture does not .
Jesus’ first appearance as the Messiah…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: but you disagree with him being the true “Messiah” something I know he was and is.

Me: How do you “know” Jesus is? What facts can you give? What proofs are available to support your “belief”? Since the Messiah was first spoken of in the Tanakh one must begin looking here and anything spoken of the Messiah in the Tanakh MUST have be…[Read more]

@ Jodi

Below speaks to the Messiah, he is begotten by God becoming a Son, he is a king inheriting the earth for his possession and he destroys the wicked. Blessed are them who trust in the Son.

Me

The truth is that Jesus was already THE SON OF GOD AND HE WAS GOD 👉BUT TO SAVE HUMANITY “HE WAS MADE FLESH” AND THUS HE BECAME BY HIS BIRTH, LIF…[Read more]

@jodi

Hi Jodi,

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
Who dwelt among us?
Jesus Christ!

Anyway, I need to rest.

God bless you and take care.

Hi DT,

YOU: Where did God say HE was going to become a father unto the seed of David? What verse are you citing?

ME: Below speaks to the Messiah, he is begotten by God becoming a Son, he is a king inheriting the earth for his possession and he destroys the wicked. Blessed are them who trust in the Son.

Psalms 1:1 Blessed is the man that walketh…[Read more]

DT……Yes , but you disagree with him being the true “Messiah”  something I know he was and is.  I believe exactly what Paul said,…….> “but unto us,  (true believers) , there is but “ONE” God, and one mediator, between  God and men, the “MAN” JESUS CHRIST.”

And Jesus himself said , …..>“Father that they might come to know you,” THE ONLY”  true GO…[Read more]

@Gene,

All those who have made Jesus into their GOD, and worship him as their God, are liars – – TRUTH!!

and are committing “IDOLATRY ” – – YES!! BY NOT WORSHIPING GOD ALONE!!

Will parish, unless they repent – – MOST LIKELY NOT WITH THE SAME UNDERSTANDING, BUT THE BASIC PREMISE, YES!!

They preach Jesus as a “DIVINE PREEXISTING” being as a God…[Read more]

Jodi…..You are absolutely right,  anyone with the SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD DWELLING IN THEM , should clearly see that.

All those who have made Jesus into their GOD, and worship him as their God, are liars, and are committing “IDOLATRY “, and Will parish, unless they repent. They preach Jesus as  a “DEVINE PREEXISTING” being  as a God and are wors…[Read more]

The easiest observation to disprove Flat Earth?

@ Jodi

Why do you deny the divinity and therefore the pre-existence of Jesus which is clearly shown in the Bible. This is what I can’t understand.
And you say you have the Spirit,…but what spirit?
I pray that someone wiser than me guides you into this truth which I believe escapes you for the moment.
With hope in my heart.

@Jodi,

You: You can’t assure anything, you can’t even acknowledge the clear simple truth that God promised that He WAS GOING TO BECOME a Father unto a seed of David.

Me: Where did God say HE was going to become a father unto the seed of David? What verse are you citing?

Hi Berean,

You can’t assure anything, you can’t even acknowledge the clear simple truth that God promised that He WAS GOING TO BECOME a Father unto a seed of David.

You go about interpreting passages making this word of God into a lie saying the opposite, not that a man of flesh (a seed of David) became a Son but rather you teach that an…[Read more]