• Profile picture of carmel

    Hi DT,

    You: Thank you for putting this at the top; I don’t have to read any further, because the rest of what you will say will be foolishness.

    What part of Numbers 1:2 escapes your understanding? Did you even go look it up before you made this “statement” of justification?!? Let me give you the passage for your reading enjoyment:

    Num 1:2 “…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Danny,

    You can say Isa 53 is the “proof” Jesus paid for mankind’s sins and in doing so we have “salvation” all you want; but can you explain what’s happening in the chapter verse by verse? Who is speaking where in Isa 52:13-53:12? Can you explain verse 10 and how it relates to Jesus? “And the Lord wished to crush him, He made him ill; if his s…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    @desiretruth

    You: If salvation can be received thru another, give me passages from the Tanakh that support this claim.

    Me: We gave you Isaiah 53 many many times now.
    No sinful nation could ever fulfill Isaiah 53.
    Only God’s Son, Jesus Christ, the sinless Lamb of God could and did.
    That’s clear for everyone with eyes to see.
    It’s sad that you…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi DT,

    Because of Corinth’s actions regarding false apostles, to which Paul specifically outlined to them, Paul let’s them know that he now does not want their funds but he still wants to continue serving them. Paul let’s them know that this makes him feel like he is robbing other churches, as he needs the funds that other churches have supplied…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    You: Jesus actually rose around 3:00 pm SATURDAY AFTERNOON. He did not raise Sunday morning. That is simply another false modern religious assumption.

    Me: Not really an assumption when Mark 16:9 says “Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week” So Mark’s account is another lie I can put down for why the NT is not God’s…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT……you got your, “true facts” , wrong,  Jesus did not die on Friday,  He died on a Wednesday around 3:00 pm,  just before the night of the Passover, Thursday  was the passover   night to be much remembered a “holy day’’,  in which no work could be done, Friday was the pass over celebration day  no work could be done, Saturday was the Weekly Sab…[Read more]

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  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Danny,

    Are you kidding me!! Did Moses ever claim to be the “Son of God”? He was a prophet to the people of Israel. God used Moses to “lead” the people of Israel and was not a conduit for “salvation” (the people were “delivered” out of Egypt, “saved” wouldn’t be the correct word choice); in fact Moses tried to take the sins of the people on hims…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    @desiretruth

    You: Realizing salvation is from God and not thru or because of anyone?

    Me: Did God save the Israelites from Egypt through Moses?

    Your answer to that question will be the answer to your statement.

     

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    Where do I begin with this butchering of God’s word?

    You have NEVER answered the important question of who is speaking where in Isa 52:13-53:12. Jonah isn’t a prophecy about Jesus; he was a prophet to the city of Nineveh. Jesus only made a correlation to Jonah “as Jonah…so will…for three days and three nights”; except Jesus was cru…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    What does it mean to be “circumcised of the heart”?

    If physical circumcision means nothing why does God say “Thus says the Lord Yahweh: “Every foreigner uncircumcised of heart and uncircumcised of flesh shall not come into my sanctuary—not any of the foreigners who are in the midst of the Israelites.” (Ez 44:9) This is the “walk throu…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Carmel,

    You: THE ABOVE IS IRRELEVANT, AS JESUS WAS NOT OF JECONIAH, JOSEPH WAS, AND JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF JOSEPH AT ALL. BUT THE SON OF MARY OF NATHAN!

    ANOTHER OF DAVID’S LINEAGE.

    Me: Thank you for putting this at the top; I don’t have to read any further, because the rest of what you will say will be foolishness.

    What part of Numbers 1:2 e…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT, you said…..>Let’s not forget his forked tongue in I Cor 15:3-4 where he says “according to scripture.” Of course all of christendom says Isa 53 is your answer; what about the second part of Paul’s statement? Where does it say the messiah was to be buried and raised up on the third day?

    me…..> Jesus said it himself,……Mat 12:40……>[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    You: Me: Ahhh, NO! I asked  for where Jechoniah asked for forgiveness 

    ME: THE ABOVE IS IRRELEVANT, AS JESUS WAS NOT OF JECONIAH, JOSEPH WAS, AND JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF JOSEPH AT ALL. BUT THE SON OF MARY  OF NATHAN!

    ANOTHER OF DAVID’S LINEAGE.

    This is also also in contrast to Matthew, as Luke begins his genealogy with his own time and goes ba…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Carmel,

    Me: I’ve already said all I can; all you have given me are man’s opinions and reasonings for why Jechoniah is listed.

    You: ISN’T THAT WHAT YOU ASKED FOR?

    Me: Ahhh, NO! I asked for where Jechoniah asked for forgiveness and his lineage was restored to David’s throne and listed as a descendant of Jesus. Even if we were to write this of…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi DT,

    YOU: <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>I’ve already said all I can; </span>

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>all you have given me are man’s opinions and reasonings for why Jechoniah is listed. </span>

    ISN’T THAT WHAT YOU ASKED FOR?

    Also, the prophecy need mean no more than Jeconiah’s immediate sons wouldn’t be kings because the Babylon…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hey there DesireTruth,

    YOU: Time to move on; speak on Gal 5:1-12 and how the Jewish male is suppose to accept the Jesus as Paul teaches circumcision doesn’t matter; and relate that to Gen 17:1-14. My assessment of Paul stands; he’s a liar, manipulator, and deceiver; and he’s real good!

    ME: How about we relate it to not only Genesis 17 but addit…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Carmel,

    You: Isn’t that what you’re doing in Paul’s case, ” I ROBBED OTHER CHURCHES…..”

    Me: Funny, I am being condemned for “not reading” all of what Paul says and not putting his words into “context”; yet, this is the same thing that is being done with the Tanakh to support/prove the christian theology. Pick a verse here and there claiming it…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @ Jodi,

    There seems to be a level of confusion is what we are talking about; what I “don’t care about” is the “equality in giving” you keep inserting into this verse and equating “donations” and “giving” to being paid for services. Paul specifically tells those in Corinth “I robbed other assemblies, taking WAGES from them that I might serve you”;…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi DT,

    You: Couple issues with this passage and claiming it speaks of Jesus; the most glaring and obvious, Jesus was never called “Immanuel.”

    Then I would encourage you to read chapter 7 in its entirety (as Jodi says context, context, context and Gene says we shouldn’t be “cherry picking” – like picking one verse out of 25 and not applying it…[Read more]

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