@Gene,

If the Jesus died for the “purpose of” and “because of” the sins of the world, but didn’t “pay off” any sin debt, what was the point of his death? I thought the Jesus was the “unblemished sacrificial lamb” that “atoned for the sins of the world”; this “sin sacrifice” didn’t pay anything off? At least the bull did.

Also, explain how a p…[Read more]

Hi all

THE FIGHT OF PRAYER

At that time Jesus went to the mountain to pray, and he spent the whole night praying to God. (Luke 6:12)

The Mount of Olives was the favorite place where the Son of God meditated. Often, after the crowd had left him to let him enjoy the rest of the night, he did not sleep, although exhausted by the occupations of the…[Read more]

DT…..Where did I say Jesus didn’t die for the “porpoise of”,  or “because of” the sins of the world?  What i said was,  Jesus didn’t die, “because of”,  or the “purpose of”  “PAYING OFF”, our  sin “debts” in our place,  we must all repent of our own sins.
Jesus’ life was to “demonstrate” to the whole world how to have our sins forgiven, and h…[Read more]

@Danny,

Did God ever speak of heaven being a place you go when you die?

As I have been reading the Tanakh it would seem God is speaking to his creation of the now, how we are to live with each other, but more importantly, how we are to serve God. Of course there are prophecies that deal with future human events; but, what I haven’t found are p…[Read more]

@Gene,

Concerning the usage of “messiah” or “anointed one” I agree it could be used interchangeably, but the KJV translates “mashiach” as “anointed one” everywhere else EXCEPT here in Daniel. The translators then add the definite article “the” before messiah and capitalize the “m” creating a proper noun that give the appearance to be pointi…[Read more]

@Gene,

In the three examples you gave, each have a different way they are used and cannot be interchanged without changing the context of what is being said. Is the usage of the word “for” being used as a “purpose” or “because of”; the context of the sentence will tell you.

In the example “Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scri…[Read more]

DT……seeming you don’t do what I ask you to , I do it for you.

the meaning of the word “for”….. Cambridge dictionary ……>

1…..a preposition…..( INTENDED FOR). showing purpose, as in there is a message for, or I’d better buy something for the baby.
2…..a preposition….( PURPOSE) …..having the purpose of,  as in…..> There’s a sign they’re say…[Read more]

@DT

I choose Heaven!

@Gene,

You have to be kidding me with your last response, if I would have done what you asked me to do and looked up the word “for” I would have discovered it can have the meaning of “purpose of.” I’m beginning to wonder if your mental faculties are all there.

Concerning a discussion on Daniel chapter 9, why would I go into any depth speaking…[Read more]

Berean…..Mark and Matt…… is not saying Jesus’ life gave anyone eternal life or paid for their sins off for them,  what it is saying  is ,Jesus ” blood i.e  (life) was given and  shed to show us “how”,  to get our sins forgiven,  his life was the “example” of the,  “new Covenant” of God the Father,   at work in mankind.

The whole concept of Je…[Read more]

@ DT

Exodus 24: 8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold👉 the blood of the covenant, 👈which the LORD hath made with you concerning all these words.

Jeremiah 31]

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that👉 I will make a new covenant 👈with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the…[Read more]

@Danny,

Not worried since God never spoke of a place of eternal torment. Christianity says God loves you very much, but if you’re not interested go to hell…forever!

I see you didn’t find a passage in the Tanakh that says believing in the Messiah brings salvation…typical “I believe button” christian.

Since you believe in a place of eternal…[Read more]

@DT

Eternity in Hell will be a long long time.

DT…….Had you did what I ask you to do, you would has seen that the word “for’.  Does take on the meaning of   “Purpose of”.   It never takes on the meaning of,  “in place of”. As in What Jesus did was in place of us, having to do anything.

Jesus said clearly……“whosoever will save his life,  (the way he lives) will lose it, whosoever will…[Read more]

@Danny,

Find me a passage in the Tanakh that says believing in the Messiah brings salvation.

Why does someone not escaping prison suddenly bring another to the point of wanting to be “saved”? Did the jailer suddenly know what it meant to be “saved”? Instead of repeating sound bites or words on an inspirational poster, you need to be asking…[Read more]

@DT

Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

@ Gene

What you say proves that you have not read carefully everything that is written in this meditation.

@Danny and Gene,

For Jesus to be of the tribe of Judah and “root/offspring” of David, his daddy had to be a biological descendant of David and Solomon (God said it). Is Jesus’ biological father of the line of David? According to both Matthew and Luke, Jesus’ daddy is the spirit. This makes Jesus a demigod (offspring of a god and mortal), like the…[Read more]

The Show is Over

Berean……wrong all must “repent” of their own sins,  before God, and live exactly as Jesus did through Faith and by the power of the Holy Spirit of God the Father.  Jesus did not pay your or anyone else’s sin debt, It cost him his life to “” demonstrate” to us all how to live right with God the Father, but he did not pay off your or anyone el…[Read more]