The easiest observation to disprove Flat Earth?

@ Jodi

Why do you deny the divinity and therefore the pre-existence of Jesus which is clearly shown in the Bible. This is what I can’t understand.
And you say you have the Spirit,…but what spirit?
I pray that someone wiser than me guides you into this truth which I believe escapes you for the moment.
With hope in my heart.

@Jodi,

You: You can’t assure anything, you can’t even acknowledge the clear simple truth that God promised that He WAS GOING TO BECOME a Father unto a seed of David.

Me: Where did God say HE was going to become a father unto the seed of David? What verse are you citing?

Hi Berean,

You can’t assure anything, you can’t even acknowledge the clear simple truth that God promised that He WAS GOING TO BECOME a Father unto a seed of David.

You go about interpreting passages making this word of God into a lie saying the opposite, not that a man of flesh (a seed of David) became a Son but rather you teach that an…[Read more]

@Gene

Concerning the pre-existence of Christ, I assure you that you are telling a big lie.
And I hope DD never swallows this snake that constantly appears on this thread.

Danny you said……..”Doesn’t this mean that Jesus was already the Christ before coming in the flesh?”

Danny, no it does not mean Jesus was Christ before his birth on this earth, he single did not exist before he was born on this earth.   But “YES”, he was already in the plan and Will of God the Father, from the foundations of the earth, and at the…[Read more]

Hi Danny,

Your view is very refreshing I must say, and I have most certainly over the years changed my position on things when presented with passages and then being mindful of the sum of all scriptures. When interpretations don’t cause contradictions but rather make things make more sense, to me that identifies what is true.

1 John 4:2, glad…[Read more]

@Berean,

Once again you have given nothing to refute or explain why I am wrong. I have explained why you’re wrong and have shown why you’re wrong; and every time you “counter” with cherry picked verses taken out of context. If you cannot substantiate what you believe, why do you believe it?

Because Jesus claimed Isa 61:1 was about himself,…[Read more]

@DT

But the passage has nothing to do with Jesus; so you believe a lie…understood!

Me

ISAIAH WAS THE PROPHET OF THE TRUE GOD AND HE PROPHESIED THE COMING OF THE MESSIAH “JESUS CHRIST THE RIGHTEOUS”
YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME WANTING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE OF THE CONTRARY, YOU ARE WORKING AGAINST GOD AND BY DOING THIS YOU ARE GOING TO PERDI…[Read more]

@Berean,

You: I believe that Christ fulfilled all that was written in ISAIAH 61:1

Me: But the passage has nothing to do with Jesus; so you believe a lie…understood! What I find fascinating is you believe something you’re unable to explain.

If Jesus was the fulfillment of this, then Jesus would have brought the message God was going to do t…[Read more]

@jodi

Hi Jodi,

Thanks. I know and feel that Jesus Christ came in me.
But still the battle goes on but I feel peace inside.
I understand your point about baby Jesus.
Honestly, I don’t have a problem if Jesus became the Christ at his baptism. If that’s what happened then Amen to that.
I just want the Bible truth. I’m open to corre…[Read more]

@DT

I believe that Christ fulfilled all that was written in ISAIAH 61:1
And even though Luke adds more, I believe the Spirit of God guided him.
Jesus healed the physically blind many times (not to mention spiritual blindness)

@Jodi,

You: DT, I referenced an existing thread on the topic you want to discuss and after my post to you I immediately went to that thread and responded to you.

Me: Nowhere in your responses did you inform me you were posting in the other thread; this is the first hearing of it. Telling me to go to that thread isn’t the same as “I posted a res…[Read more]

@Berean,

You: For Jesus, when he read in the synagogue, he read the scroll that was in that synagogue.
This is what Luke relates.

Me: The point Berean is Jesus wouldn’t have been reading from a Greek translation in a synagogue. This is a corruption of the text and you don’t question it. Never mind the fact “Jesus” completely takes out of context…[Read more]

Hi Danny,

I hope you are doing better!

You provided,

Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

To give proof that Jesus was already the Christ before his baptism at the river Jordan.

This is the passage that others including Proclaimer has given as proof.

I ask, were we saved by the…[Read more]

@DT

Are you okay with a corrupt version being used as truth? The question still remains unanswered, why would Jesus be reading from a Greek translation and not the original Hebrew? This doesn’t cause you to pause and question the veracity of what Luke wrote?

me

As I already told you, the Septuagint Bible is not my reference, it is the King J…[Read more]

@ Jodi

You are WRONG

GOD AND the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD WERE TOGETHER BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.

THAT IS WHAT JOHN SAY IN JOHN 1

AND 17

JESUS IS THE ONLY ONE BY WHOM THE FATHER ACT IN CREATION, REDEMPTION AND FINALY JUDGMENT.

God is my witness that I speak the truth.

Amen !

@jodi

Hi Jodi,

Just to answer your two questions:

Yes, I believe that Jesus Christ did fulfill all righteousness. He he was obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Yes, I believe that the Spirit of YHWH came on Jesus Christ after his baptism. But Jesus was already the Christ.
Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

YOU: Jesus bridged this gulf, and made a way for man to come to God.

ME:

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with…[Read more]