• Profile picture of Berean

    @ Jodi

    Adam and Eve were ignorant, they lacked considerable wisdom, understanding, knowledge and fear of YHVH, ALL THINGS to which the man Jesus had been filled with.

    Me

    And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    Adam and Eve were ignorant, they lacked considerable wisdom, understanding, knowledge and fear of YHVH, ALL THINGS to which the man Jesus had been filled with. 

    A human being, Jesus, had God’s grace upon him growing in wisdom from his childhood and then at the river Jordan when he was a man, he was then born of the Spirit of God…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT……RIDDLE  ME THIS  “O” WISE ONE…….Gen 2:2…..> “And the LORD God formed man “OF” the dust of the “GROUND”   and breathe into his nostrils the breath of life: and man became a “living soul “.   That is exactly what a “man” is,  nothing more and nothing less.  A-Man is not a “soul” without a “living body”.

    Jesus the MESSIAH said,  …….> don’t f…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    I can ask you the same question of why you’re here; when you peddle your own musings as the only truth. How many times have you told others they are wrong and proceed to explain your religious beliefs as if they are the only truth to be had. Remember you were quite pleased with what I was saying when I first joined; but you never asked w…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    @jodi

    Hi Jodi,

    1 John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT…..I know David did not ‘write” all of the BOOK OF PSALMS,  I have known that for over 50 years now.  But that particular Psalm we’re talking about,  was direct at David’s descendent, why?,  because David’ s  (body ) did see corruption in the pit i.e grave. BUT Jesus , who said he was the “root and offspring of David”,  did not have his (body)…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    You: tell us how was Israel’s body marred more then anyone else.

    Me: tell me what nationality has been persecuted more than the Israelite nation for just being a descendant of the nation? What nationality suffered the same as the Jewish people did during WWII – think holocaust. What nationality has endured wide spread discrimination eve…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    You: them (then) you say it was saying the David would not suffer the corruption of his body in the grave

    Me: That isn’t what you said was it? Going back to post #946389 what you actually said was: “AND WHAT ABOUT THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAY God would not leave his soul in hell to see corruption?”

    Seems you changed your wording to “grav…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    You: you say the book of Plams was a book written “to” David , instead of DAVID writing it.

    Me: For those unaware, this is a reference to Psalm 110 and NOT the entire book of Psalms; a book said to be written by multiple authors and not David alone.

    For your viewing pleasure Gene:

    Screenshot from 2024-04-30 16-34-36

    Riddle me Gene, what does the Hebrew say? Of David a…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    @ Jodi

    You

    Adam was NOT created perfect, if he was, than he would not be able to sin!

    Me

    Fake
    Adam was created perfect and perfectible thanks to the intelligence and free choice that God gave him, not to mention his physical faculties.

    you

    The answer is not because he pre-existed perfect and then came down from heaven being transformed into…[Read more]

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    Hi Proclaimer and All,

    Adam was NOT created perfect, if he was, than he would not be able to sin!

    Yes, Adam chose his own way and Jesus chose God’s way, but HOW was Jesus able to walk in all of God’s ways and follow God’s will and not his own? 

    The answer is not because he pre-existed perfect and then came down from heaven being transformed…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi to all,

    The Christian Post Published the False Assertion that the Angels in Heaven Observe the Eternal Sabbath from Sunday to Sunday

    The Christian Post is one of the largest non-denominational, conservative, and evangelical Christian news publications, with approximately ten million monthly readers.  The Christian Post wrote an article t…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    In nothing you responded with have you supported why you believe what you believe. You have asked no questions, but accuse me of creating “new religious thoughts”; yet these “new thoughts” are anything but new.

    You need to look up “gandy dancer”, don’t think it means what you think it does. I can assure you I don’t work on laying railroad…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT…… no matter what anyone say and what scriptures they give you, to support their claim, you simply ignore them or simply say they don’t mean what they say , now you say the book of Plams was a book written “to” David , instead of DAVID writing it,  them you say it was saying the David would not suffer the corruption of his body in the grave…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    Response to 946389. Covering a lot in this response; hopefully you take the time and read it all; the last comment concerning Isa 53 is the primary focus of this response.

    You: what do you do with where it says in Daniel that the Messiah would be cut off in the midst of the week?

    Me: Would you listen to what I have to say or would you…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Proclaimer……First of all , you don’t understand what a “Messiah”  is.  A Messiah is and has to be a pure human being. like Moses, and other human God used from the human race, by anointing them with his Holy Spirit.

    Second,  no scripture says Jesus was “born” , before Abraham, that is your interpretation of what before means.  But I see it as be…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people. Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.”

    Amen !

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    Berean…… If Jesus had all those “ADVANTAGES” OVER US THAT YOU GIVE HIM, THEN HE COULD NOT QULIFY,  TO BE A “MESSIAH”.  Him overcoming the world, and him telling we must also overcome “as he did”

    Here’s the problem. Adam was created perfect, but because of free will, he chose to go his own way.

    Now you expect a man born in sin to overcome without…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    If Jesus had all those “ADVANTAGES” OVER US THAT YOU GIVE HIM, THEN HE COULD NOT QULIFY,  TO BE A “MESSIAH”.  Him overcoming the world, and him telling we must also overcome “as he did” , would have been a lie, because he would have had a great advantage over us, by being a “PREEXISTING BEING”  with all the foreknowledge we simply don’t have.  He…

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