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    Luke 24:50

    He led them as far as Bethany, and lifting up his hands he blessed them.

    24:51 While he was blessing them, (JESUS) parted with them and was taken up into heaven.

    24:52 As for them, after having worshiped him, they returned to Jerusalem with great joy;

    24:53 and they were continually in the temple praising and blessing God.

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    Hi Jodi

    I don’t believe everything you tell me.

    Jesus comes from heaven.

    Heaven is a physical place where the Father and Christ are.

    When Jesus told us that he came from heaven, it was because he came from the physical place where he was near his Father.

    Ephesians 4: 8
    Therefore it is said, Having ascended on high, he led away captives, and…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    Let me continue,

    Acts 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

    John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    YOU:

    All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
     For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

    Jesus comes from above
    He is the creator of all things, he is before all things, all things subsist in him … (see Colossians, Hebrews, Joh…[Read more]

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    Hi Gadam,

    Thanks for giving your understanding and some of the OT passages you believe are referring to a coming Messiah. Knowing your understanding is helpful in responding to your other post, 891807.

    If I interpreted the NT passages that you gave from that post as you do, I would reach the same conclusions as you do, but I don’t. Seems like…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer and Carmel………In God we “all” existed before.  We are the fulfillment of God the Fathers plan and we’re preordained before we and everything else ever existed.

    When Jesus said , “no, “MAN”   “Can”,  ascend up into heaven except he who descended from heaven,  He was speaking of mankind ,  Jesus was A “Son of man” and therefore a…[Read more]

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    gadam123 replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 4 years, 10 months ago

    True but our Bible especially the NT talks about the predestination and the influenced will which is not FREE as it is meant to be;

    The theological doctrine of divine foreknowledge is often alleged to be in conflict with free will, particularly in Calvinistic circles: if God knows exactly what will happen (right down to every choice a person…[Read more]

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    Yes, this verse is very clear.

    Gene doesn’t believe this verse as well.

    John 6:62

    If then you shall see THE SON OF MAN ascend up where HE WAS BEFORE.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 4 years, 10 months ago

    predestination

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    Hi to all

    Daily Devotional

    WEALTHY OPPRESSORS

    An Amazing Fact: The rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. This is an old truism, but a 2010 study by Norton and Ariely shows that people don’t realize how true it is. Researchers asked more than 5,000 respondents to identify a pie chart that looked like it represented wealth distribution in A…[Read more]

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    Hi Proclaimer ,

    Allow me to add these scriptures as well:

    John6:62If then you shall see THE SON OF MAN ascend up where
    HE WAS BEFORE?
    NOTICE PLEASE, JESUS WAS ALREADY  PHYSICALLY THE SON OF MAN, 

    PR-EXISTED BEFORE THE WORLD WAS AS
    JESUS CHRIST!
    GODMAN
    THE EMBODIMENT OF GOD, THE GENUINE PHYSICAL IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD!
    THE PRIMORDIAL L…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer……God sent Jesus “into” the world, does not mean he sent him from outside the earth into this world,

    It says he sent his Son into the world.

    It also says that he emptied himself and partook of flesh.

    Then it says he is back in the glory he had with the Father before the world.

    You have to twist these words which is easy to do.

    Bu…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer……God sent Jesus “into” the world,  does not mean he sent him from outside the earth into this world,  it means he sent him from “IN” the world, to go out “INTO”  the world,  to preach  the Gospel of the kingdom of God.   JESUS also sent the apostles out into the world to preach the same gospel.  It means to be sent forth throughout…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer……It not about what God, “COULD DO” or “CAN DO”,  it’s about what he “DID DO” ,

    This is what he did do. Note, this is not me saying it. I am simply quoting scripture. Yet, you will oppose me for that. Enough said.

    For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

    [Read more]

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    Hi Gene

    I’m not a priest, or pastor, or evangelist, and I’ve never had to preside over a fellowship service … Just as a deacon assisting the pastor or church elder.

    God bless

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    Berean…….Remember when you give the communions,  to remind them what the words “eat” and “drink” mean.  It is exactly what you do when you eat and drink something,  you are taking it,  “TO”,  “YOURSELF’ .  We must all do that with the Sacrifice of Jesus for us all.

    peace and love to you and yours Berean………gene

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    Proclaimer……It not about what God, “COULD DO” or “CAN DO”,  it’s about what he “DID DO” , right? ,  your looking at “ORDINARY”, mankind  in a nothing sense , only shows you disregard for MANKIND and even the work of God himself. Did God not say he “created us in his ‘image”?, What your missing is how  “Great a work God the Father can do”, in and…[Read more]

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    Carmel……If I were doing the Fathers Will “only” And not my own Will,  I could say the same thing Jesus said, “if you see ME are seeing the Father.  It’s all about who’s Will is being done,  yours or the Fathers. Remember what Jesus said?,   ” the Son of man , came not to do “HIS” WILL, but the Will of him who “SENT HIM” ,  you haven’t figur…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Daily Devotional

    IS THE COMMUNION SERVICE ONLY OPEN TO THOSE WHO ARE MEMBERS OF A CHURCH AND WHOSE SINS  ARE FORGIVEN?

    There are indeed times in which the church should examine a person, such as in choosing officers or preparing baptismal candidates. But the apostle Paul also encourages us to inwardly examine our hearts. He doesn’t sa…[Read more]

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