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    Everywhere else in the Old Testament, when the Hebrew word for “day” (יוםֹ, yom) appears with “evening” or “morning” or is modified by a number (e.g., “sixth day” or “five days”), it always means a 24-hour day.

    That would make sense to all the verses when man existed and applied to man. It is rare that you would say day and not mean 12 or 24 hours…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic WHY Genesis ? in the forum View Points 4 years, 7 months ago

    I don’t read denominational propaganda 

    Proclaimer

    Where do you see propaganda in what I say or publish? I see more of a proclamation of good news than anything else.

     

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    Carmel: ONLY Genesis 1:1  says: 1In the beginning God created heaven, and earth. ….

    GENESIS 1:2 IS NOT A BEGINNING IT IS THE STATE OF THE EARTH AFTER THE BEGINNING OF GENESIS 1:1

    Exodus 31:15-17… For six days work may be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of complete rest… for in six days the LORD made the heaven and the earth, but on…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer:  I see. So when day is mentioned in scripture, then it can be any length depending on context. But when the days are numbered, then it switches to 12 or 24 hours… You just made that up on the spot to get you out of a pickle. No one is buying that explanation. It is not well thought out and no serious student or scholar would…

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    Mike:  Does the Bible teach that the sun was MADE and PLACED in the firmament of the heaven on day four of creation?  Yes or No?

    Proclaimer: It says:

     And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky.

    Genesis 1:16-19… God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night. And He made the s…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic WHY Genesis ? in the forum View Points 4 years, 7 months ago

    I don’t read denominational propaganda. Yes, some will contain truth. But I listen to people’s own testimonies, experiences  and understanding.

    The true church is not a denomination. Denominations to me are divisions in the body that should not exist.

    When one of you says, “I am a follower of Paul,” and another says, “I follow Apollos,” aren’t y…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic WHY Genesis ? in the forum View Points 4 years, 7 months ago

    Gene

    It’s sad for you that you don’t read these publications. Moreover, are you sure that nobody reads them?
    So stop being so pessimistic.

    Concerning this last little document, I have just recently discovered it and that is why I have seen fit to publish it, because I believe that the Spirit of Truth has manifested in it. So Read it and we will…[Read more]

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    Berean,   will you stop posting  these books and articles from other sources over and over all the time?, First of all no body is reading them,  and they take to much time to respond to here,  stop pushing you church or organizations.   Just give us what you personally understand OK. IN A FEW WORDS.

    Peace and love to you and yours Bere…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic WHY Genesis ? in the forum View Points 4 years, 7 months ago

    The Brooding Holy Spirit
    But this is accomplished only by the Spirit of God, who
    broods upon all. Jesus was here once, and was the Head of theChurch when He was here. But He said,
    John 16:7
    It is expedient for you that I go away:
    It is not good for you that I stay; I must go.
    7
    …for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto
    you; but if…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic WHY Genesis ? in the forum View Points 4 years, 7 months ago

    The Brooding Holy Spirit
    But this is accomplished only by the Spirit of God, who
    broods upon all. Jesus was here once, and was the Head of theChurch when He was here. But He said,
    John 16:7
    It is expedient for you that I go away:
    It is not good for you that I stay; I must go.
    7
    …for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto
    you; but if…[Read more]

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    Carmel: HE  REBELLED AND FLOODED THE EARTH! THE MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING!

    PSALM 18! WHERE DAVID WAS THE ONLY ONE SAVED

    You: Yahweh flooded the earth, and Noah and his family were the only ones saved in the ark.

    ME: EXPLAIN HOW THE WORLD WAS TOTALLY SUBMERGED IN Genesis 1:2 

    Now read and explain: by the way do not include scriptures as par…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Daily Devotional
    <h2>The only way to be able to look the sun in the face.</h2>
    “<span style=”color: #008000;”>All of us who, with our faces uncovered, contemplate as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, we are transformed into the same image, from glory to glory, as by the Lord, the Spirit. (2 Corinthians 3:18)</span>

    The sun shines in t…[Read more]

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    Does the Bible teach that the sun was MADE and PLACED in the firmament of the heaven on day four of creation?  Yes or No?

    It says:

     And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky.

    If I said to you let there be car lights  shining in your garage, would you start creating these lights? Would you melt sand to create glass and wire thes…[Read more]

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    Because God does not include a NUMBER.  For example, if God had said, “The FIRST day of your building the walls…” and “On the TWENTIETH day people will come…”, He’d be talking about literal days.

    I see. So when day is mentioned on scripture, then it can be any length depending on context, but when it numbers those days, it switches to 12 or…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    Carmel:  Reading the above, IT CLEARLY SAYS  that God not only created things but also MADE THINGS.
    Isaiah 43:7…  Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

    In the above, God said He created, formed, and made everyone that is called by His name.  Do you t…[Read more]

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    @ Proclaimer

    Does the Bible teach that the sun was MADE and PLACED in the firmament of the heaven on day four of creation?  Yes or No?

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    Gene:  …did God destroy this earth before and cover it with water again and kill off all life that what was on this earth before, and then start with another beginning that we read about in Genesis?

    I have no valid reason to even ponder such a thing.  The question is WHY you would.  I know the answer: Scientism

    Gene, perhaps it’s time to st…[Read more]

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    Mike:  So my point (as attested by the entire Bible) stands that any time God speaks to humans about a certain number of days, He is ALWAYS talking about 12 or 24 hour literal days.

    Proclaimer: Was God alone in the context of the following verse? No.

    Did man exist in the context of the following verse? Yes.

    The day of building your walls will c…

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    Berean replied to the topic WHY Genesis ? in the forum View Points 4 years, 7 months ago

    FOLLOWING

    OF

    WHY GENESIS ?

    The Creation to be Finished
    But thank the Lord, the day has come, when:
    Revelation 10:5
    And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon
    the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
    6
    And swore by Him that lives for ever and ever, who created
    heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and
    the things that…[Read more]

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