• Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Proclaimer:  His time is not our time. His ways are not our ways. He is not a man.

    Agreed.  For example, it is possible for God to speak to humans in a language that the humans don’t understand.  Heck, God to speak to you in ALL of the languages that have ever been spoken all at once if He wanted to.  But what good would it do you if you cou…[Read more]

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    HE talks to human beings about “day(s)”, and includes a number.

    I see, so God should have said that he created the earth in 6 epochs with each epoch being exactly 6,888,222,444,555,555,777 cycles of our earth sun measurement because it matters to God that he communicates this in hours or earth sun cycles.

    And when the word ‘day’ is used, beca…[Read more]

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    Asked and answered… numerous times.  It matters not how God experiences days.  It only matters what God means when He uses the word “day(s)” – WITH A NUMBER – to human beings.

    You can’t impose your standard units of time back to when God created the universe. You have no scientific or biblical precedent for doing so. If the scripture says that a…[Read more]

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    Assumes facts not in evidence. It’s therefore stricken from the record.

    Bwahahaha!

    Delete truth you don’t like and what is left must be the truth.

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Proclaimer:  But a day on Mars is called a sol. It is a different amount of our hours.

    Assumes facts not in evidence.  It’s therefore stricken from the record.

    Proclaimer: …when it is talking about us and our days here… we have 2 options, 12 or 24 hours…

    Correct.  I will enter this into the record as your acknowledgement that “any time in th…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Proclaimer: First problem we have here is day and night. If it is always 24 hours, then there is no time for night in the verses where both day and night are mentioned.

    Fortunately – since I’m well aware of how you operate and try to use tricky-talk to force an argument that is moot – I made sure I worded it to include both 12 and 24 hour days,…[Read more]

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    Hi Carmel

    You

    God in Genesis 1:3 initiated His work, THE BEGINNING OF THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF THIS WORLD, AND SAID:

    LET BE LIGHT MADE! 

    Me

    In my opinion according to Genesis 1:1
    God tells us:
    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

    What do we actually see in verse 2?

    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was u…[Read more]

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    Finnish member of Parliament Päivi Räsänen and Lutheran Bishop Juhana Pohjola are on trial for their faith. They have endured a three-year-long campaign of legal harassment from the hands of the Finnish gov

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Berean,

    You: God could have made/created man by speaking,

    without using dust from the earth.

    He did so to show/instruct us that we are DEPENDENT ON HIS CREATIVE BREATH OF LIFE.
    You know what I mean.

    ME: Yes, I agree, but

    WHY ARE WE DEPENDENT ON HIS CREATIVE BREATH OF LIFE?

    OBVIOUS; FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT WE IN ACTUAL FACT WERE IN…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    Back to my post; I wasn’t clear enough by my question!

    I should have asked you:

    HOW CAN I ANSWER A QUESTION NOT IN RELATION TO GENESIS?

    WE ARE DISCUSSING GENESIS NOT EXODUS!

    EXODUS DOES NOT SAY:

    GOD CREATED HEAVEN AND EARTH!BUT

    for in six days the LORD made the heaven and the earth, 

    Genesis is clear and in verse 3, it says: ……[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic WHY Genesis ? in the forum View Points 4 years, 7 months ago

    FOLLOWING AND END

    OF : WHY GENESIS ?

    The Sabbath a Seal of Perfection 

    Again to Genesis. This process of successive creations went
    on until God’s ideal appeared: the perfect man. There he
    stood, the perfect man, created by the power of God; and he
    stood as the son of God:
    Luke 3
    38 …which was the son of Adam, which was the son of Go…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi to all

    AN AMAZING FACT: In October 2002, Abraham Abdallah pled guilty to 12 counts of fraud while on trial for the largest identity theft operation in recent history. The 32-year-old busboy and high school dropout had attempted to steal the identities of Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, Oprah Winfrey, Ted Turner, and scores of other famous…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic WHY Genesis ? in the forum View Points 4 years, 7 months ago

    Gene

    What you say about me and my church is false and totally false. You always have an excuse to not answer When I Ask you To answer a question.You often divert the conversation so as not to address what is bothering you, which is the biblical truth.

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Berean,  please don’the take this the wrong way ok,  I believe you are a novice when it comes to understanding scriptures, you are contained within the understandings of the TEACHING OF YOUR CHURCH,  AND YOU HAVE POSTED MANY OF THERE TEACHINGS HERE. Much like the JW’S and other Cults do,  they can only relate to others what their own org…[Read more]

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    Carmel

    Malachi 2:10

    Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?

    God could have made/created man by speaking, without using dust from the earth. He did so to show/instruct us that we are DEPENDENT ON HIS CREATIVE BREATH OF LIFE.
    You…[Read more]

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    Pfizer Clinical Trial Whistleblower’s Lawsuit Presses Ahead

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Carmel: ONLY Genesis 1:1  says: 1In the beginning God created heaven, and earth. ….

    GENESIS 1:2 IS NOT A BEGINNING IT IS THE STATE OF THE EARTH AFTER THE BEGINNING OF GENESIS 1:1

    Exodus 31:15-17… For six days work may be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of complete rest… for in six days the LORD made the heaven and the earth,…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    Then in Exodus 20:8–11 God commanded the Israelites to work six literal “days” and rest on the seventh because He created in six “days” (using the same Hebrew word).

    There is no biblical or scientific reason to be ashamed of believing in a recent six-day creation.

    There is no justification for forcing these days to be 24 hours long for the follo…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    Gen 7:4… For after seven days, I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights…

    This is nothing like the time when man didn’t exist and God did things. Imposing 24 hours is stupid IMO. God is not a man. And do not forget, that a day is not like a day to us. It seems much longer. How long would a thousand years be to your mind? A r…[Read more]

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    God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night.

    Correct. He made the heavens and the earth and all that is in them.

    And He made the stars as well.

    Indeed.

    God placed these lights in the firmament of the heaven…

    Yes, that is the action. He placed them in the vault or firmament. The view is from…[Read more]

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