Hi Mike,

You: The creation of Jesus WAS the beginning of creation… as is clearly taught in Proverbs 8:22.  But as anyone can see from the above, you clearly implied that before Gen 1:1, God was on His own. 

He was not. 

He was with Jesus and the other gods that He created before He created the heaven and the earth. 

ME: For God’s  sake:…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

You: Excuse me Carmel, but you didn’t give the verse that says that God transformed Himself…
you say: GOD TRANSFORMED HIMSELF AND BECAME LIGHT AND COVERED THE ENTIRE INFINITE EXISTENCE! “
In the Bible it is written:
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Me: I said: what do the scriptures hereunder say?

Isaiah 45:7 I F…[Read more]

Proclaimer

“You have been useful and so was gadam who also forced me to look deeply into the prophecies of Daniel. I will be writing on that subject too.”

Me

It’s high, high time to have clear ideas
and to know WHO IS WHO.

God bless Proclaimer

Hi Mike.

Thank you for debating me on this. I believe I have enough information now to produce a writing about Genesis and the beginning.

I find you are just regurgitating the same arguments that have been debunked or have equal alternate interpretations that need to conflict with observation.

You have been useful and so was gadam who also…[Read more]

Good insight gene.

Clearly we have evidence of other epochs in the past. And ages (worlds to come). And the Bible doesn’t contradict this evidence either.

And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace,…[Read more]

Gene

“So it appears that God made everything out of something that existed before,  even mankind and all physical creatures were ‘made” out of things that existed before they were actually made.” 

Me

…”out of things that existed before….”

But who made the things that existed before?

Carmel and Mike…….when you create something you bring it forth from nothing,   when you make something you make it from  something that exists. God made the earth and all things therein.  He took existing things and made something from them.  God may have made this earth over many times, as fossil findingso show,  and destroyed it with wate…[Read more]

Hi Carmel

Excuse me Carmel, but you didn’t give the verse that says that God transformed Himself…
you say: GOD TRANSFORMED HIMSELF AND BECAME LIGHT AND COVERED THE ENTIRE INFINITE EXISTENCE! “
In the Bible it is written:
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light f…[Read more]

Hi to all

Daily Devotional

How a weak person becomes strong

“So Peter said to him, ‘I have neither silver nor gold; but what I have, I give to you: in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, arise and walk. And taking him by the right hand, he lifted him up. At the same time, his feet and ankles became firm. (Acts 3:6-7)

This remarkable mir…[Read more]

Me: GOD TRANSFORMED HIMSELF AND BECAME LIGHT AND COVERED THE ENTIRE INFINITE EXISTENCE! “

You: I don’t believe God told you that…
Where did you read that in the bible?

Me what does the scriptures hereunder say?

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light,

and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things.

1 John 1:5 T…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Science shows us an amazing universe that God created… The distances and times are beyond you mind.

Are they?  Carmel and I were briefly discussing Isaiah 14 earlier today, and I’d like your input.

Isaiah 14:12-13… How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once l…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Genesis doesn’t have to disagree with much of science, particularly astronomy, geology, etc.

What are you talking about?  Genesis doesn’t disagree with ANY science, because true science actually supports a six day creation 6000 years ago and a worldwide flood 4500 years ago.

Proclaimer:  But you force it to disagree because you do n…

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Proclaimer:  Do not forget, that a day to God is like a thousand years. Or a long long time.

OR… a thousand years to God is like a single day to us – a very SHORT time.  But either way, the metaphor is irrelevant to what God means when He speaks about any particular number of days to humans.  Time to put that one back in the holster, Barney Fi…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  In the Genesis account of days, this is God was creating before man existed for the most part. And the Sun wasn’t in existence according to you, (I disagree). So why would a day where God is creating be measured by the sun when man is not yet in existence. And worse for you, when the sun isn’t even there. It makes no sense.

When was…[Read more]

Carmel: Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH!

Reading the above verse we are for sure that GOD BEFORE CREATION WAS ON HIS OWN

Mike:  Wrong.  God created Jesus and the other gods

Carmel: IF ACCORDING TO YOU GOD CREATED JESUS AND OTHER ANGELS, WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT IF NOT THE BEGINNING OF CREATION!

The creation of…[Read more]

Carmel:  PLEASE POST THE DIRECT QUOTE OF MY WORDS!

No.  If the search function on this site wasn’t useless, I’d have found that quote in less than a minute.  As it is, I spent 25 minutes trying different search terms that included “Gen 1” and “Ex 31″… and nothing.

Same thing earlier to answer Gene’s accusation that I hadn’t addressed his Ad…[Read more]

You already have a pending question about why you would think those days were any different than all of the other NUMBERED days God talks about in the Bible.  I’m awaiting your response.

It’s real simple Mike. But maybe you missed it.

1. A day to God is way longer than a day to us. You have forgotten this or are ignoring it intentionally.

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Gene:  FACT IS Genesis 1, clearly indicates  that the heavens and earth was already here,  when God Started his , new beginning of this earth that once existed,  and he destroyed the earth with all the animal kingdom that then existed,  with water just as he did, in the days of Noah…

Sorry Gene, but I can’t read any of this in scripture – beca…[Read more]

Me  Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH!

Reading the above verse we are for sure that GOD BEFORE CREATION WAS ON HIS OWN

You: Wrong.  God created Jesus and the other gods

ME: FOR A START, JESUS WAS/IS “THE WORD” OF GOD AND WAS  NEVER CREATED AS A SPIRIT, AD-INTRA! DIVINE!

NEVERTHELESS, IF ACCORDING TO YOU GOD CR…[Read more]

Proclaimer: “We’re just waiting for one time in the entire Bible where God talks about a specific NUMBER of days, but isn’t talking about literal 12 or 24 hour days.”

Correct.  Have you found one yet?

Proclaimer:  I’m not sure, but there might be this one time in Genesis where day one, day two, etc is mentioned…

You already have a pending…[Read more]