GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Adam…….No scripture properly understood says Jesus prexisted his birth on this earth, that is a other example of twisting up what scriptures really says, like this example. , “before ” Abraham I am, here how false teachers present that , Jesus was saying, he was “ALIVE” before Abraham , but does the word Alive appear there no it Dosen…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Let me paraphrase the way I see it, and it should eliminate the confusion, The First of the sentence is correct just as it is written, but the second part is not, it should read, and for the purpose of him and through him we all exist.
Now consider this, God had in his, mind from the very beginning a purpose for his human creatio…
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Adam……The trip is in the actual translation of the Greek word, (dia) , it is used in two places in that sentence, that if misunderstood gives a wrong understanding to the whole sentence.
Let me paraphrase the way I see it, and it should eliminate the confusion, The First of the sentence is correct just as it is written, but the second par…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
It seems people really cannot grasp the difference between identity and nature however. I am not sure anyone here can grasp it which I find a bit weird because the concept is really simple. Maybe most people who post here are not that smart. But to explain it in another way. We understand such things even in our own English language. If I said,…
Admin replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
So you can agree that the Son could properly be called the only begotten god/God whether or not it actually says it in John 1;18, right?
One can be called theos in a qualitative sense, but as soon as you say it means ‘God’ which is ‘the god’ in Greek, then you have mistranslated it. If you say ‘Jesus is God’. Then in Greek, you are saying that…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Natural or manufactured? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 4 years, 6 months ago
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gadam123 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Mike the mistake is made by not truly understanding what the actual word God means, it’s not a person it’s “A DESCRIPTOR OF THE RELATIONSHIP”, you have with something, anything. Once you understand that clearly then the rest falls into place. So, your right in saying there are many God’s , but wrong in say they are TRUE God’s that we bel…
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Thanks for your response.
I’m interested in how you reconcile your your view of the two YHVHs do not form one God with these passages:
Deut 10:17
For Yahweh your God, he is God of gods, and Lord of lords, the great God, the mighty, and the awesome, who doesn’t respect persons, nor takes reward.
Deut 6:4 Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer said:
But even if it is communicating that from God another was begotten from his nature, then that would be true IMO.
So you can agree that the Son could properly be called the only begotten god/God whether or not it actually says it in John 1;18, right?
Lightenup replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Hi Mike,
Regarding this post:
I thought I was agreeing with you. You’ve told me that John 1:1 speaks of two gods – one of whom was with the other. And you’ve told me that the Father is the unbegotten God who can’t be seen by human eyes, while Jesus is the only begotten god who can be seen by humans. Um… that’s two different gods, Kathi.…
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:18 in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Mike…….Jesus did not say there are not other God’s, did he, he said there is “only” ONE “TRUE” GOD. SO YOU POINT of more then one God’s is true, as I explained in the definition of the word God, what it actually means, a ything can be a real God to a person, anything a person puts his Trust and faith in and leans on it for his power , “IS…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 years, 6 months ago
Hi to all
MARATHON RUNNER
Daily Devotional
AN AMAZING FACT: In September in 490 B.C., Darius the Persian king sent an army of 25,000 to crush an army of 10,000 Athenian troops fighting for liberty. The Greek general, aware that his army was greatly outnumbered, sent Pheidippides , one of the fastest runners in Greece, to carry the urgent r…[Read more]
Admin replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Do you think that “my gospel” is consistent with one who believes that John 1:18 correctly calls Jesus the only begotten God?
The only verse that you have and it is controversial. But even if it is communicating that from God another was begotten from his nature, then that would be true IMO. But you make it out to be two Gods. Anyway, many tra…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
LU: Who is it that you are agreeing with that thinks that Yahweh and Jesus are two different gods?
I thought I was agreeing with you. You’ve told me that John 1:1 speaks of two gods – one of whom was with the other. And you’ve told me that the Father is the unbegotten God who can’t be seen by human eyes, while Jesus is the only begotten god wh…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Hi Mike,
You: In the meantime, listen to your Lord Jesus…
Proverbs 8:22
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25Before the mount…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Hi Mike,
You: Carmel, the entirety of Genesis 1 is the process by which God created the heaven, the earth, the sea, and everything in them. He did all of that in six days.
We know this because He told us.
Me: SHOW ME THE SCRIPTURE WHICH SAYS PRECISELY THESE WORDS HEREUNDER!
GOD CREATED THE HEAVEN, THE EARTH, THE SEA, AND EVERYTHING IN THE…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Never seen a verse like this for example:
On the sixth day a god called Jesus healed a man called Bruce. Or, the god Jesus came in the flesh. Or the one true God begat another true god called Jesus Christ. He is the second God.
Your doctrine of gods doesn’t seem to be practiced in biblical times though. Perhaps we need to start using god for…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Israel finds first case of polio in over 30 years in four year old girl
She was unvaccinated for Polio.Admin replied to the topic I'm thinking of banning Google in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 4 years, 6 months ago
As you know, Google was placing this site further down their results when you searched on ‘Heaven Net’. So I banned Google and now it is no 1 for that search term. Lol. I guess they just can’t handle being shut out. I have noticed in the past when you ban Google, they try to find the way to index you. So that is how you do it. If they ban you,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conception in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 years, 6 months ago
Your article shows some myths about the birth of Jesus, and based on OT verses building on these myths seems to seek to cast doubt on the NT story.
Having denied the divine status of the Son of God and showing him only as man, a son of David, the article tries to also show Joseph as the physical father of Jesus by various forms of…- Load More

