Hi Mike,

You: Carmel, is it even remotely possible that this is the true meaning of Gen 1:1-2:3?  Yes or No?

ME; DEFINITELY NOT MY BROTHER IN CHRIST MIKE!

FOR THE SIMPLE RESON THT AFTER GENESIS 1:1

THERE IS THE MOST VITAL CONJUNCTION
AND…..
Hereunder is an article which you can read, precisely on the same argument you just posted, I am only…[Read more]

Carmel: GENESIS 2:4These are the generations of the heaven and the earth, when they were created, IN THE DAY (why not “in the days” He made them in six days, no?) that the Lord God made (NOT CREATED) the heaven and the earth…

Funny you should bring this up, since I just addressed it to Proclaimer in our private thread a couple of hours ago.…[Read more]

Gene:  Proclaimer…….what makes you think being a partaker of the Devine nature, makes you not a human being?

Gene is another example.  Like Carmel, he knows some scriptures – but that’s the end of it.  His mind doesn’t work right anymore, and therefore his posts, like Carmel’s, are often a mish-mash of words that, although English, are strung…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

You: According to Genesis 1 yes, according to Genesis 2:4 yes and no

Me: THANK YOU VERY MUCH Berean!

Now read according to this version:

DRB. Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heaven and the earth, when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the heaven and the earth.

But let’s take your version:

Genesis2:4…[Read more]

Berean:  Carmel, you are on dangerous ground… I don’t believe a single word you write.

I don’t think anyone here takes the nonsense Carmel posts seriously.  I personally believe he is mentally deranged.  I just grab snippets of the stuff he claims when it’s easy to show a quick scripture that refutes his claim.  Of course, then he’s off in la-la l…[Read more]

Carmel: GENESIS 1:1 IS CLEAR

IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS(FIRST)
AND THE EARTH

Heaven was created on day 2.  The earth on day 3.  Carmel, consider the following very carefully…

Gen 1:1…  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.  (INTRODUCTORY STATEMENT)

Gen 1:2-31…  All the things God made, and the order in which…[Read more]

Mike:  I find it very hard to believe that from the very beginning of our world, there had always been “Co-Yahwehs”, yet the only human being about whom it was said, “Yahweh would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend” was completely unaware of this “Yahweh Unity”, and believed that the Father alone was his God and Creator.

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Mike:  There are also many other scriptures that make it clear that God, not Jesus, created all things.

LU: I disagree.

Here’s just one of the many…

Acts 4:24… When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to God. “Sovereign Lord,” they said, “you made the heavens and the earth and the sea, and everything in them[Read more]

LU: The Father created and acted upon creation through Jesus…

The Son formed man. All things are made by the only begotten God…

These are contradictory statements. Either the Father created man or the Son did.  Which ONE of them did it?  (Pick only ONE of them as the “Creator”, please.)

Mike:  And yes, many scriptures say God (as in the Fa…

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Gene

Berean…….If you believe Jesus is God, you are a novice,  and haven’t began to understand the truth yet.  

I believe in the Word of God.

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a ser…[Read more]

Hey Gene!  Is Yahweh LITERALLY the ONLY savior in existence?  Yes or No?

Hey Berean!  I whittled down your three options to the only option that works.  What is your response?

Hey Kathi!  I agreed with you that David was undoubtedly talking about what we call “angels” in Ps 8:5 – and pointed out that he called these creatures “gods” none…[Read more]

Proclaimer, I just spent a couple of hours individually addressing a bunch of your claims that I’ve already addressed a bunch of times before this.  I KNOW that you can’t SCRIPTURALLY rebut a single thing I said in those two long posts, and I KNOW that you won’t even try.

But please DIRECTLY and HONESTLY answer the two Must Answer questions in…[Read more]

This is my previous Must Answer question that still remains unanswered…
PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE THAT THE SUN, MOON AND STARS ALREADY EXISTED BEFORE GOD MADE THEM ON DAY FOUR, AND THAT THEY WERE ALREADY A PART OF HEAVEN BEFORE GOD PLACED THEM INTO THE FIRMAMENT OF HEAVEN ON DAY FOUR… OR OPENLY ACNKOWLEDGE THAT NO SCRIPTURAL E…[Read more]

Mike:  PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE THAT THE SUN, MOON AND STARS ALREADY EXISTED BEFORE GOD MADE THEM ON DAY FOUR…

Proclaimer: I don’t believe that God created the sun on the fourth day Mike and I do not believe that the text forces us to believe this.

The text clearly, undeniably, and explicitly says exactly that – and your “beliefs”…[Read more]

Mike:  PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE THAT THE SUN, MOON AND STARS ALREADY EXISTED BEFORE GOD MADE THEM ON DAY FOUR…

Proclaimer:  1.  A day is like a thousand years to God.

This does not address my question – which doesn’t concern the length of any days.  My question remains unanswered.

Proclaimer: 2.  God created the heavens and the…

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Berean…….If you believe Jesus is God, you are a novice,  and haven’t began to understand the truth yet.  Jesus is indeed the word of God, that came into being when he was born on this earth exactly as we are  , yes he was “the prophesied ” word “FULFILLED”, , but he himself is not God the Father’s word (himself), just as he said he was…[Read more]

Hi to all

Daily Devotional

HUMMINGBIRDS

AN AMAZING FACT: There are over 300 kinds of hummingbirds in the world, which come in every color of the rainbow. The smallest is the bee hummingbird from Cuba—the smallest bird in the world. It is only two inches long and weighs less than a dime at .07 ounces. The largest is the giant hummingbird that ca…[Read more]

Posting this to watch later

Gene

In the biginning, THE WORD (Jesus) WAS WITH THE GOD AND WAS GOD.He possessed HIS FATHER’S DIVINE NATURE.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

This is the TRUTH FOR ETERNITY.

Col.2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the…[Read more]

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