Hi Mike

Simple question Berean:  Is Jesus a messenger of God?  Yes or no?   

HE IS THE MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT

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Behold, I will send
👉 my messenger (John the Baptist) and he will prepare the way before me: and the Lord (the Son of God) whom you seek, will suddenly come into this temple, even 👉 THE MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT, (th…[Read more]

LU:  Mike, I’m just asking for you to show us all one time that I demanded an apology, just one, no need to go from page to page unless of course you can’t find any, in that case you can acknowledge that. Shouldn’t be hard for you to acknowledge if indeed you can’t come up with even one.

I acknowledge that I’m not willing to look through pages of…[Read more]

LU:  Gene, do you know who said this and to whom:  “apart from Me you can do nothing”?

Kathi, do YOU know who said this and to whom:  “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself…” ?

I do.

But I can’t seem to find anywhere in scripture where God made such a statement, which, if you think about it, would be a very nonsen…[Read more]

Mike, I’m just asking for you to show us all one time that I demanded an apology, just one, no need to go from page to page unless of course you can’t find any, in that case you can acknowledge that. Shouldn’t be hard for you to acknowledge if indeed you can’t come up with even one.

Actually, there are others who are called Yahweh.

Yes there are, the Father, the Son and the Spirit.

Gene,

You said: There exists, no vine NOR HUMAN, that did not come from another (branch) exactly like it,  and there exist no branch , that did not come from another vine exactly like it also, they “ALL”, come from one planting,  of “ONE”,  God.  JESUS is a human being , a HUMAN,  FROM HUMANITY,  FROM “ONE”,  GOD, as we “ALL” are.

You mi…[Read more]

LU: Why would a person who’s named “Jesus” be a “Co-Yahweh”?

Because two persons are called Yahweh and they are ONE.

Don’t you mean two persons and one city?  😎

Actually, there are others who are called Yahweh.  They are those who come as representatives of Yahweh, and are all throughout scripture.

Gene,

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Hi Gene,

Do you know who said these words and to whom?

“…keep My commandments…?”

Gene,

Reposted:

Gene, do you know who said this and to whom:  “apart from Me you can do nothing”?

LU:  where did I demand even one apology?

Kathi, perhaps instead of constantly challenging people to use their time to go from page to page on thread after thread trying to find some particular exact statement you made, you could just use a LOT LESS of your own time by saying something like, “Mike, I didn’t actually demand that you apologize, bu…[Read more]

Why would a person who’s named “Jesus” be a “Co-Yahweh”?

Because two persons are called Yahweh and they are ONE.

LU:  Why don’t you show me where you think that I say that.

Kathi, perhaps instead of constantly challenging people to use their time to go from page to page on thread after thread trying to find some particular exact statement you made, you could just use a LOT LESS of your own time by saying something like, “Gene, I don’t believe Jesus and th…[Read more]

Mike said:

But just so I don’t have to see a bunch of posts from you demanding that I show you where you said those exact words and demanding more apologies, I thought it wise to spell this obvious fact out for you.

Like I said…where did I demand even one apology?

Gene,

You asked:

Matt 23:9………”Call no man your Father, upon the earth; for “ONE” is you Father, which is in heaven.

Jesus said those words  not me, but the question is, do you “truly”, believe him LU?

Yes, I believe that and I believe that He is my Father through Jesus who is the only begotten God. Do you believe that, Gene?

LU:  Mike, do you want to show us where I “demanded an apology” as you claim? If you can’t show us then perhaps you want to acknowledge that for all to see. Asking you to “acknowledge” things is not the same as asking you to apologize for them. 

Mike:  *Note to Lightenup:  The above “quotes” are not verbatim words that you said, but are my own pa…

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Gene,

You said: Paul was saying that to the brethren in Eph 6v23.  In your last post,  Paul representing both God the Father “and” Jesus , but not as the same person.  As your trying to do. I do believe you know what the word (and) means right, it means two different persons, like Joe and Mike . The are not the same .

That comment is worris…[Read more]

LU:  Would you say that the blanks could have also said that Jesus was a Co-Yahweh with God or something similar to that?

Why would a person who’s named “Jesus” be a “Co-Yahweh”?  Sure, “Yahweh our Righteousness”, right?  But the city of Jerusalem is called by the same title – which by the way, is properly translated as “Yahweh IS our Ri…[Read more]

Mike said: “You said ‘X’ in another thread, and you need to take it back and apologize before I address your posts that actually have to do with what we’re supposed to be discussing here”.  *

I never demanded an apology from Mike, I just wanted him to prove his accusations with facts, not opinions and if he could not, then he needed to acknowle…[Read more]

LU: Eph 6:23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Notice that Jesus is included with the Father as distinct from the brethren. Over and over you can see that if you are willing. 

Paul is also “distinct” from the brethren in that verse.  As he is in this statement to the church in Cor…[Read more]

LU: Mike,

You said: Not a “son”.  Not a “they”.  Not a “Yahweh Unity of the Spirit”.  Just our heavenly Father named Yahweh – who is a single male person referred to as “he”.

Simply put, we disagree. Many can see it. Sorry you won’t.

Who can see it, Kathi?  The only one I know who believes that God is a unity of Yahweh the Father and “Yahweh t…[Read more]