• Profile picture of mikeboll64

    LU:  Do you disagree that the prophecy which Matthew is saying was fulfilled through Jesus being valued as 30 pieces of silver, is found in Zechariah?

    I’m pointing out that Matthew said Jeremiah, not Zechariah, so we have no way to know.  I’m also saying that the passage in Zechariah is not a prophecy at all, and so could not be fulfilled by a…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike and Danny,

    Regarding this:

    “If the combo of Heb 1:5 and Sam 7:14 doesn’t equate the persons of Jesus and Solomon, why must the combo of Matt 27:9 and Zech 11:13 equate the persons of Jesus and Yahweh?”

    It seems to me that what is said in Heb 1:5 and 2 Sam 7:14 is demonstrating that both are installed as ‘kings’ not both as Solomon or both…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    You said:

    Accepting for argument’s sake that a “god” is a BEING with powers over nature and man (the actual dictionary and scriptural definition), is your Yahweh Unity ONE God (ie: one BEING) made up of multiple persons?  Or TWO Gods (ie: two BEINGS)?

    Since I have proven your definition of god to be inaccurate, the rest of your post that i…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Hi Danny,

    You said:

    Yahweh is the Father of Jesus Christ. (Psalm 2:2; Acts 4:26)
    Jesus Christ therefore CANNOT be Yahweh.

    My answer:

    Yahweh is the God of gods and the Lord of lords. (Deut  10:17) Jesus is the Lord of lords and for us there is one Lord who is not the Father but is the Son, therefore, Jesus is Yahweh the Lord of lords.

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Danny.

    You said:

    Yahweh is the Father of Jesus Christ. (Psalm 2:2; Acts 4:26)
    Jesus Christ therefore CANNOT be Yahweh.

    Danny, who is the Lord of lords here in the OT:

    Deut 10:17 For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe.

    Danny, who…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    You claimed:

    First of all, the word “god” in the Bible ALWAYS refers to a BEING who is thought to have powers over nature and the affairs of men.

    Then asked:

    Show me a scriptural example where this is not the case.

    Philippians 3:19 Their end is destruction, their god is the belly, they exult in their shame, and they think about earthly thi…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Mike,

    You said;

    Actually, it’s tied to Jeremiah in the NT – not Zechariah.

    What actually are you correcting me on? Reread what I said:

    LU: The passage in Zechariah is tied to Jesus as the one who is valued as 30 pieces of silver which ends up buying the Potter’s Field by the writers of the NT, not me. And the one who is valued at 30 pieces of sil…

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  • Profile picture of Lightenup

    Hi Danny,

    I will address one thing at a time. You said:

    Yahweh is in view in Zech 11:13.
    Jesus is in view in Matt 27:9.
    But that doesn’t equate the persons of Yahweh and Jesus.

    Danny, In Psalm 102, who is credited with the action written about in the part of the passage posted here?

    Psalm 102

    25“In time of old You founded the earth,

    And the…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Johnyy

    Hi LU,

    You asked:

    “Do you believe that the Son was valued at 30 pieces of silver or the Father was valued at 30 pieces of silver which was used to buy the Potter’s Field?”

    Yahweh is in view in Zech 11:13.
    Jesus is in view in Matt 27:9.
    But that doesn’t equate the persons of Yahweh and Jesus.
    As Mike made a very good point:
    “If the combo of H…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Gene, do you see that question at the bottom of the post above?  That is my DIRECT question for which I DEMAND a DIRECT answer from you.  Get to it before you post anything else on this site.

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Gene: Mike, he certanly was not saying they were real God’s , why, because that would make him a liar, and we are told our God , does not lie.

    Here is the quote from Ps 82…  “You are gods, all of you sons of the Most High, but you will die like men.”

    I hear your claim above, and now I want you to present your scriptural evidence that when Yahweh…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Gene, you are pontificating again – instead of DIRECTLY addressing my points.  And what’s worse, you are making false claims about me in the middle of your pontification.  When did I ever say “all humans are Gods”?

    Now please go back to the previous page and DIRECTLY address my posts from yesterday.  They are the last 4 posts on the previous pa…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Carmel:  SUBJECT ONLY TO GOD’S OWN WAYS  AND DAYS, WHICH ARE NOT LIKE HUMAN WAYS AND DAYS NO!

    The plural word “days” ALWAYS refers to literal HUMAN/EARTH/SUN days in the Bible (and in the history of the earth in general).  Prove me wrong using scriptural examples.

    You CLAIM that the six days of creation are something other than literal huma…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Carmel: Now you suggested moving the comma, IRONICALLY, after the word, 

    “DAY” SIMPLY TO PLEASE YOUR CORRUPTED WISDOM OF THE WORLD AND IGNORE 

    THE TRUTH OF GOD!

    How could I suggest MOVING a comma that wasn’t even there in the Greek text?  What I suggest is that the English translators who INSERTED a comma that wasn’t there inserted it at the wro…[Read more]

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    Mike no one today would,  but back then they certanily did, and because that man made his tree his God, by doing what a God requires , it then was truley “HIS” God.  

    If you “truly”  believe all humans are God’s,  then you should fall down and “truly” worship us,  after all you are saying we are real  God’s, right?   Mike all the God’s of the pa…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Mike,

    You: Okay, I clearly see your CLAIMS.  Now show me the scriptural support.

      Show me one instance in the scriptures where the plural word “days” refers to anything other than a literal 24-hour day (or the 12-hour daylight portion of a literal 24-hour day).

    Ready, set, GO!

    Me: Ready, set, GO!

    WHAT?

    YOU SAID: “Okay, I clearly see y…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Mike,

    Me: YOU REALLY DISAPPOINT ME, IN A WAY, CONSIDERING THE FACT that you yourself,

    ATTENTION PLEASE:

    ESTABLISHED yourself as wise in relation to the worldly wisdom, NOTHING OF GOD, and 

    MADE yourself an enemy of GOD, BY YOUR OWN CORRUPTED WISDOM. Well clear in

    Romans 8:For the wisdom of the flesh is death; but the wisdom of the spirit…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Pretender:  Should be one question… 

    So you’ve gotten tired of not giving people smart-ass quips around here – but still aren’t man enough to follow your own rules and answer some very easy questions, huh?  😂🤣  I knew that would happen.  You tried to post a few things on lesser-viewed topics to stay hidden, but missed the “greater than thou…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    My MUST ANSWER question…
    PROCLAIMER, DOES THE PLURAL WORD “DAYS” EVER REFER TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN LITERAL DAYS IN THE BIBLE?  YES OR NO?  AND IF YES, SHOW THE SCRIPTURE(S), including their clear and undeniable indication that the “days” in question are, without a doubt, not literal days.

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Pretender:  In Genesis 2:4,  how many days does it say took place for God to create the heaven and earth, and how many hours does that equal?
     
    Mike:  Gen 2:4 doesn’t mention a specific number of days, but instead uses the common idiom “in the day”, which intentionally refers to a general, unspecified time period.  The second part of the question…[Read more]

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