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    Flat Earthers, why don’t you go on this trip during summer, and once you’re there you can experience the midnight sun and try and figure out how it’s possible on a flat Earth.

    antarctica-trip

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    Flat Earthers, why don’t you go on this trip during summer, and once you’re there you can experience the midnight sun and try and figure out how it’s possible on a flat Earth.

    antarctica-trip

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    The Moon is a sphere. The Sun is a sphere. Mercury is a sphere. Venus is a sphere. Mars is a sphere. Jupiter is a sphere….so is Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and loads of moons of those planets.
    The obvious question may seem to be why is the Earth not also a sphere when everything else is. But I have an even more obvious question. What stops rocks,…

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    The Moon is a sphere. The Sun is a sphere. Mercury is a sphere. Venus is a sphere. Mars is a sphere. Jupiter is a sphere….so is Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and loads of moons of those planets.
    The obvious question may seem to be why is the Earth not also a sphere when everything else is. But I have an even more obvious question. What stops rocks,…

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    Carmel:  On the seventh day, according to Exodus 31:17, God “rested and was refreshed.” Why would an omnipotent and inexhaustible God need to be “refreshed”?

    Here are some commentaries on it.  I’ve highlighted a few…

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    Check out the scriptures listed in the bottom right red box.  Both of those psalms imply that God was sleeping and needed to…[Read more]

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    Carmel:  ESTABLISHED AFTER THE SUN WAS CREATED Genesis 1:16.

    Incorrect.  Days were created when God created light and separated the light from darkness – on the FIRST day.

    Carmel:  FINE!  BUT ONLY FROM GENESIS 2:5 ONWARD THOUGH!

    Incorrect.  Days were days since the very first day – before the creation of the sun, and before Gen 2:5.

    There is only…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    You:  1.  The very word, notion, and concept of days was created by God and based solely on the light/dark-sun/earth cycles…ie:

    24 hour periods on the earth. The word “days” has no other meaning. 

    ME: ESTABLISHED AFTER THE SUN WAS CREATED Genesis 1:16.

    DIVINE DAY 4 NOT HUMAN DAYS, 

    It’s not like God has His own form of “days” in he…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene.  I’m still waiting for your direct answer to this question:

    GENE, DID A PERSON CREATE THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH?

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    Hi Gene, I’ve brought this recent discussion here from another thread to be sure it doesn’t get overlooked by you…

    Gene:  Mike……Simply answer,  God who is “in” all things,   is the “only” source of “salvation” for “all” things ,  us, and Jesus himself also.   Saying God the Father uses this or that person, or thing, to bring about his purposes, …

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    Hi Berean, here goes another stab at it…

    Hebrews 1:2 NIV… but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.

    The word CORRECTLY translated as “through” in the NIV is the same Greek word “dia”.  Now watch this…

    New Living Translation
    and through the Son…[Read more]

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    See what I told you Berean?  After everything I painstakingly showed you in that last post, I told you that your first instinct would be to quote some translation that says, “BY him all things were created”, right?  And what did you do?  You immediately quoted some translation that says “BY him all things were created” – just like I said you wo…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike

    Sorry, I don’t agree with what you’re telling me about Christ.
    All the texts of the Bible do not say that God created the world by the Son, but there are enough to believe that this is THE CASE and in particular Paul to the Colossians.
    In this letter, Paul is very eloquent and explicit.
    To support that Christ is the image of the invisible…[Read more]

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    Gene:  Mike……Simply answer,  God who is “in” all things,   is the “only” source of “salvation” for “all” things ,  us, and Jesus himself also.   Saying God the Father uses this or that person, or thing, to bring about his purposes,   makes no difference it’s  still God, and God “alone ” doing it. 

    If I can read through your poor grammar and use…[Read more]

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    Okay Carmel, just went through every single use of each word in scripture.  Tohu can be translated as empty/void/nothingness in each place it is used in scripture.

    Bohu can be translated empty/void/nothingness in each place too.  Of course I’m sure you’ll want to see them, right?  Okay, since I have a holiday from work and nothing else to do, he…[Read more]

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    Mike……Simply answer,  God who is “in” all things,   is the “only” source of “salvation” fore “all” things ,  us, and Jesus himself also.   Saying God the Father uses this or that person, or thing, to bring about his purposes  makes no difference it still God, and God “alone ” doing it.  

    Examples…… God used Sampson  , to save Isreal rig…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Berean: Mike

    FATHER AND SON HAVE THE SAME NAME….
    YOU KNOW THIS NAME

    …having his Father’s name written in their foreheads…

    Having God’s name written in their foreheads does not mean they will all have the name Yahweh as their own name.  It is a sign that they belong to Yahweh.  But back to the issue at hand…

    Psalm 2:2… the rulers gather…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    ME: BY THE WAY, ON PAGE 93 (originally by mistake, I said on page 92 )

    APRIL 24, 2022 AT 11:38 AM #931343 

     

    SO HERE IT IS AGAIN!

     I ASKED YOU:

    FIND A SCRIPTURE THAT MAKES USE OF THE WORDS

    TOHU VA BOHU AND IT IS NOT A REFERENCE TO

    CONFUSION, CHAOS, WASTE, AND A NEGATIVE STATE OR REFERENCE!

    SO, ARE YOU STILL SEA…[Read more]

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    Gene:  Mike again you painted yourself into a cornor,  Jesus said this, not me,  “I can do,  “nothing”,  of “myself”, so how could he save anyone “himself”. 

    Gene, I fully understand what you are saying, and I even agree with it.  No living creature, not you, me, Jesus, Satan, or anyone else would even have the power to stand if that power were…[Read more]

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    This is really quite the mystery, @admin

    Here is the link I posted in #931905 – before I hit “Submit”…

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    And this is the link I posted in #931906…

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    They are identical links, but the link in #931905 actually takes to you the post that is linked, while the SAME EXACT link in #931906 takes you to the OP of this thread.

    Why would that…[Read more]

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    Nope.  That one takes me to the OP of the Hot Seat private thread too.

    Anyway, hopefully now you are able to see that I can’t do what you ask, and send Pretender a link to the actual posts.  I have no idea why one time the link actually took me to the specific post, but all other times it takes me to the OPs of the threads.

    @admin  Maybe you ca…[Read more]

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