LU:  Every use of the word “born” was applied to someone/something that existed in some manner beforehand for a period of time. Your son existed long before he was born, for instance.

Okay, I’ll concede for argument’s sake that living things “exist” before they are passed through the birth canal or whatever.  But you’ll have to concede that every…[Read more]

Mike: If it was a matter of just that ONE “possessed/created” word, you might have a valid argument.  But that word is immediately followed up by three other words from Jesus himself that DEMAND a meaning of “created” for the first word.

LU:  Really???  I was given birth, when there were no springs overflowing with water; before the mountains w…

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LU: Jesus is the only begotten son, begotten before the ages, before the first works of old, i.e. before creation.

How do you know that? You’re the one that told me “begotten” referred to Jesus being begotten from the dead.

LU: God said “today I have begotten you” in Heb 1. That refers to the begetting from the dead.

See?  Which scriptural instan…[Read more]

Mike:  KATHI, DOES YOUR GOD AND CREATOR HAVE A SON NAMED JESUS OR NOT?

 

LU:  The Father and the Son are the creator. The Father has a son named Jesus. The Father together with His Son are the creator. They are my God.

So then your DIRECT answer is “NO”.  Is that correct?  Now consider that the two most well-known verses in the Bible are Gen 1:1…[Read more]

LU:  That was satan’s claim, he was lying.

And Jesus – who openly called Satan the prince of this world – was unaware that Satan was lying?  Because his response to Satan certainly wasn’t, “What are you talking about?  You don’t have authority or possession of any of these kingdoms.”

Revelation 12:12… Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who…[Read more]

Hi Kathi.  You must have overlooked this one from a few days ago.  I’d really like an answer to the question at the bottom.  Thanks.

Hi to all

Daily Devotional

The Dead Sea in Israel is one of the most unusual spots on the planet. At 1,312 feet below sea level, it’s the lowest water surface on Earth. The Dead Sea receives over 6 million tons of water every day from the Jordan River alone, but even though it has no outlet the water level never rises. The old geographers used t…[Read more]

Carmel…….you simply do not believe Jesus, nor what he says either , what you believe is your own corupted version of Jesus,  just as Jesus said  would come,  (not me)….”many”  will come in my name saying i am the Crist and decieve “many” . If you actually believed him and his words, you would know what i quoted you were not “my” words but…[Read more]

As for Genesis 1:20, try a better translation…
Douay-Rheims Bible
God also said: Let the waters bring forth the creeping creature having life, and the fowl that may fly over the earth under the firmament of heaven.
The mistaken KJV translation was corrected in the NKJV…
King James Bible
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the mo…

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Foundation Texts“In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands” (Ps 102:25; see also 104:2; 93:1).
“He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the L…

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You mean the giant sinkhole in your image?  Sinkholes happen all the time on the earth.  Nothing needs to come through the firmament to cause them.  Just because you’ve BEEN TOLD that this sinkhole is a “meteor blast” or whatever does not change the fact that it is, indeed, a sinkhole.

Bahahaha!

I’ve seen sink holes and you wouldn’t walk across o…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: Carmel…….Again you prove you “really” don’t believe what Jesus actually said,   so i will quote him again for you ok?   

ME: WHAT YOU POSTED Gene, are not Jesus’ own words but yours according to your corrupted mentality simply to reject Jesus as THE TRUE GOD ON EARTH! READ 

1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come:…[Read more]

New no1 verse contenders for bible teaching a flat earth according to gadam

“And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come” (Jer 49:36, KJV).
“Son of man, this is what the Sovereign LORD says to the l…

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You say that earth and heaven (including the sun, moon, and stars) were created by the end of Gen 1:1.

You suggest that despite the sun existing, a dense atmosphere kept the surface of the earth in darkness.

Okay, so when God said, “Let there be light” and separated the light from the darkness, what actually happened to make light reach the ear…

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Mike,

You said:

If it was a matter of just that ONE “possessed/created” word, you might have a valid argument.  But that word is immediately followed up by three other words from Jesus himself that DEMAND a meaning of “created” for the first word.

Really???  I was given birth, when there were no springs overflowing with water; before the mount…[Read more]

Mike,

You have asked this multiple times:

KATHI, DOES YOUR GOD AND CREATOR HAVE A SON NAMED JESUS OR NOT?

The Father and the Son are the creator. The Father has a son named Jesus. The Father together with His Son are the creator. They are my God.

Mike,

You said:

And since Jesus’s title “only begotten son of God” had nothing to do with him being brought into existence before the world began, there is nothing in the entirety of scripture to suggest that the manner in which Jesus was brought into existence is any different than the way God’s other heavenly sons were brought into existen…

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LU:  Together they are YHVH! I worship them as our YHVH creator.

Yes… so you’ve said repeatedly.  I’m asking you if the God that YOU worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and everything in them has a son and servant named Jesus.

Kathi, your God and Creator have a son named Jesus or not?