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    The Second Day
    Gen 1:6…And God said, “Let there be a firmament between the waters, to separate the waters from the waters.”
    The firmament is clearly a solid object.  We know this because of the meaning of its root word “raqa”, because Job describes it as “hard as a mirror of cast bronze” (37:18), and because it supports the waters above it. …[Read more]

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    The First Day
    Gen 1:1… In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
    This is an introductory statement.  It introduces the the event that is about to be described in more detail.  A similar introductory statement is used in Gen 2:4.  At this point, there exists neither heaven nor earth.
    Gen 1:2… Now the earth was formless and void, an…[Read more]

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    Okay Proclaimer… here’s what we’ve learned about your interpretation of Gen 1:

    1.  The creation of heaven automatically includes the creation of the things IN heaven, but the creation of earth DOESN’T include the creation of the things ON earth.  You can’t explain this discrepancy.

    2.  The words, “Let there be light – and there was light” re…[Read more]

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    Hey Berean, that long article you posted argued the same points that I’ve been trying to make based solely on the Bible and God-given common sense.  Great read, thanks.  The only fault I have with it is the “spinning ball” reference…

    “Light was in existence, coming from one direction upon a rotating earth, resulting in the day and night c…

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    Gene Berean……Peter said, “but beloved, be you not ignorant of this one thing: that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years  as one day.”

    He was telling us,  that a day equals a thousand years to God , and  THOUSAND YEARS equals a day.    1000 DAYS = 1 DAY, AND 1 DAY = 1000 YEARS,  They are equal to eachother wit…[Read more]

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    Berean……Peter said, “but beloved, be you not ignorant of this one thing: that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years  as one day.”

    He was telling us,  that a day equals a thousand years to God , and  THOUSAND YEARS equals a day.    1000 DAYS = 1 DAY, AND 1 DAY = 1000 YEARS,  They are equal to eachother with the L…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer,

    Berean, I am not saying it is a thousand years.

    Me

    You are not saying that , BUT You Take 2 Peter 3 FOR WHAT ?

     

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    When Flat Earthers Ruled
    fe-old

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    Berean, I am not saying it is a thousand years. Certainly it is not 24 hours is what you can draw from this. why do so many here always err in their assessments? I believe it is because many religious persons are brainwashed. They are no longer able to reason because of indoctrination.

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    Proclaimer

    A day to God is like a thousand years.

    It may not be what your religion or denomination teaches you, but the Bible teaches us this. 

    Me

    1-“Like”( or “as” ) IS not “equal”.
    I am wrong…?
    2- You are out of context with 2 Peter 3:8

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 4 years ago

    Do you agree that Jesus is the only proper Son and all other beings called “sons” are not proper sons but instead created sons? And what specifically do you think that means, to be a “proper son” of God?

    I would say that he came directly from God. Whereas creation came from God through the Word.

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    No, it’s not a contradiction, because the expression “in the day” simply means “at the time”.

    Exactly. Thank you!

    So a day in scripture is not always 24 hours.

    You said it yourself.

    Of course, a day is mostly 24 hours or 12 or so hours because it is used in our (everyday) context.

    But for God, the context is different.

    He is not a man that…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer

    You

    Here is one contradiction with your view. There are many more.

    These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens.

    Me

    No, it’s not a contradiction, because the expression “in the day” simply means “at the time”.
    We are not to describe “a…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Daily Devotional

    PITFALLS

    AN AMAZING FACT: The worst mining accident in U.S. history was the Monongah coal mine explosion, which claimed 362 lives.
    Digging tunnels underground is risky business. Hundreds of miners around the world die each year from mining accidents, especially among coal miners. Sometimes poisonous gases enter the…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    You: an important point that many fail to consider is that a word can never be symbolic the first time it is used! In fact, a word can only be used symbolically when it has first had a literal meaning. 

    You: an important point that many fail to consider is…….

    Me: This applies also to you Berean, for the simple reason

    THAT FOR…[Read more]

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    These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens.

    In fact the above statement is the title statement of the second creation account recorded by the Yahwehist in the book of Genesis 2nd chapter which clearly mentioned the God’s name as ‘Yahweh’ whereas first…[Read more]

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    @dannyd

    Here is a 5 ton ball holding onto water. It is not flying off like FEers make out.
    Of course the water is falling down slowly, but that is because of earth’s gravity. But in reality, this ball is spinning hundreds if not thousands of times faster than earth.

    Try this yourself. Soak a tennis ball in water. Next, spin it once in 24 hours.…[Read more]

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    @berean

    When people accept at face value what Genesis is teaching and accept the days as ordinary days, they will have no problem understanding what the rest of Genesis is all about.

    Here is one contradiction with your view. There are many more.

    These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the…[Read more]

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    Really Danny? Lol.

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