Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
Can’t the Father and the Son both have the same proper name and the same nature or can they just have the same nature?
For Believers of which I am one, there is one God the Father, and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ.
So it makes no difference about asking confusing questions about them being the same nature and having the same name.
One is G…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
God can produce a son and many sons. He is the Father of Spirits.
God is Spirit. He begets spirit beings.
And if you think about it. Someone had to be first.
Someone was first to be with God.
And that is the Word of God that was with God in the beginning.
He came in the flesh, but is now in the glory he had with the Father before the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 11 months ago
Why the plane dipping argument debunks the Flat Earth?
I have argued successfully why pilots do not consciously need to dip the nose of the plane constantly. Simply put, the curve is too small to detect by humans because the earth is too large to really comprehend when making everyday calculations.But here is why this argument actually debunks…[Read more]
Admin replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 11 months ago
Planes are not laser beams Mike.
The pilot then flies “straight and level” all the way to Hawaii
Imagine a globe. Now project 5000 feet around it.
What shape is that path?
And if the pilot had to constantly dip the plane, then the globe would be probably less than 10km is diameter if you had to consciously do that .
Lol. Think about it.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You said:
Christ himself blinds their minds so they can’t see the light that displays his own glory? Does that really make any sense to you?
John 12:40“HE HAS BLINDED THEIR EYES AND HE HARDENED THEIR HEART, SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT SEE WITH THEIR EYES AND PERCEIVE WITH THEIR HEART, AND BE CONVERTED AND I HEAL THEM.”
According to you, Mike,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You asked about John 10:33 and that it should be translated as “a god.” My answer is no, it is translated as “God” and not “a god” as it should be because of what it says in this verse:
John 5:18
For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God…
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You said:
But you’ll have to concede that every single one of those things that “existed” before they passed through the birth canal DIDN’T exist before their pre-birth “existence”.
Did the Son exist before Mary conceived? You claim that the Son existed at the beginning of creation before Mary ever conceived. So, there is that…also…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 11 months ago
Funny how all things work on a globe, but not a flat earth
I wonder what that could mean? Lol.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 11 months ago
On of the biggest FE destroyers there is and an easy one to verify.

Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 3 years, 11 months ago
@Proclaimer
Fourth time reposted for your convenience, please answer:
Proclaimer,
You said:
You either believe or you don’t. Fine.
So, what do YOU proclaim, Proclaimer? Do you think that God could produce a “biological” son, one that comes through some sort of an asexual reproductive process and in that manner the son is the actual, liter…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 11 months ago
So your story is that heaven and earth already existed in Gen 1:1. But the earth was completely dark because, although the sun existed, volcanic air pollution (or whatever) prohibited the light of the sun from reaching the earth. And when God said, “Let there be light”, He literally meant, “Let there be a clearing of the earth’s atmosph…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 11 months ago
Here’s another one for Mike to ignore.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike isn’t going to refute the claims here because he can’t. When people do not like the truth, at first they try to debunk it. When they cannot do that, they simply ridicule it but give no supporting evidence. Eventually they ignore it.
The reason I have won this debate Mike is not because I am better than you. It is simple. It is way easier to…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 11 months ago
Hey @Danny Dabbs, I’m here on this thread for you. I’m not going to use my time continually refuting Proclaimer’s memes, videos, misunderstandings, and erroneous claims.
But if there are ever any of his claims or memes that YOU want me to address, just ask. 👍
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 11 months ago
Proclaimer: The old plane needs to dip argument proving a flat earth has been debunked… When you fly, it is altitude that you maintain. If I fly at 5000 feet then it will naturally follow the curve.
You’re not thinking it through.
1. The gyro (and the plane’s horizon indicator) are level with the Phoenix runway.

2. The plane takes off an…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike, the answer IS ……in my previous post.
THE ANSWER IS YES .
AND WHAT A SON AND SERVANT!
God bless
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 11 months ago
Mike: Are you saying that what happened to allow the light to reach the earth is that a polluted atmosphere cleared up?
Proclaimer: Correct.
So your story is that heaven and earth already existed in Gen 1:1. But the earth was completely dark because, although the sun existed, volcanic air pollution (or whatever) prohibited the light of the…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Berean. Please just directly answer my question as I asked it. Does the God you worship as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that in them is have a son and servant named Jesus Christ? Yes or No?
Admin replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 11 months ago
Hey Mike. I watched that video. You said you thought you were losing your mind. You were actually correct.
Admin replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 11 months ago

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